Idea For Fallout

[OldKingClancy]

A little backstory, I've only played Fallout 3 and New Vegas but I've loved both, one of the main reasons is roaming around and finding all the locations, occasionally stumbling across a strange and/or interesting one.

Now I've recently watched Goldfinger and I had the idea that in the next or a subsequent Fallout game they should include Fort Knox as a location, imagine having to fight through heavily armoured ghouls and other creatures, traverse the building and finally make your way into the vault and to be rewarded with gold bars - much like Dead Money I know but it's more a surprise location you find instead of the whole plot.

To give this some discussion I'll ask two questions:
1 - Do you like the Fort Knox idea?
2 - What landmark would you like to see in a Fallout game, not a location but a specific building or statue or something like that?

 

[scorptatious]

I don't see why a Fallout version of Fort Knox would be a bad idea. That would be kinda cool.

Hmm, probably the Statue of Liberty? I'd be interesting to see how well that stood after the bombs hit.

 

[Tallim]

Wouldn't be a bad location, would probably want some other reason to go in rather than gold though. Maybe there is actually a fallout vault entrance in the main Fort Knox vault.....

Awesome username btw......

 

[BeeGeenie]

Fighting through all of Fort Knox's defenses (I'm thinking gun turrets and sentry bots in addition to the ghouls) in search of some lost technology or something, hidden amidst the now worthless pile of gold bricks. I could totally see that working in the Fallout universe.

Other landmarks?... hmm... maybe I'll get back to you

 

[scorptatious]

A Fort Knox idea is a cool idea, but there are rumors it will take place in Boston.

I would like to see a Fallout set in London (destroyed Big Ben anyone?) too bad the purists would lose their shit, but the butthurt would be worth it! Imagine ghouls with British accents!

I've always wondered whether people over in Europe had anything that's sort of an equivalent to the Vault system in the U.S. Or if they had to use what they had like makeshift bunkers or the like. Would be very interesting to see a Fallout set in some places like London.

 

[Occams_Razor]

I like the idea of Fort Knox. Gives some kind of tangible end goal to assault, where badassary can be obtained. Its intriguing, because you could get into the whole idea of having another Vault inside of Fort Knox, you'd figure that's where 'the elite' politicians or citizens would be moved to, seeing as it would be nice and protected. Some opportunity for some interesting class struggle/drama there.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

A Fort Knox idea is a cool idea, but there are rumors it will take place in Boston.

I would like to see a Fallout set in London (destroyed Big Ben anyone?) too bad the purists would lose their shit, but the butthurt would be worth it! Imagine ghouls with British accents!

Didn't that ghoul in Point Lookout have a British accent? And the one in Dead Money?

Also yes, it would absolutely be worth it, just for the butthurt alone. There's nothing in fallout lore that says you couldn't have it set in London, you just couldn't have vault-tech. I don't see it happening but there's no "canon" reason that you couldn't.

OT: sounds OK, I'm not really familiar with Fort Knox as a location, but I really think the gold should be highly irradiated (guess Auric Goldfinger's bomb went off after all) and useless. Just to be a dick to the player, all that work for nothing.

 

[GTwander]

Just chiming in to say that a Fallout based in a place outside the U.S. would be far more interesting than something involving Fort Knox. Sorry OP.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

Yes and Desmond Lockheart (the ghoul in question) was f**king bad-ass!

Indeed, in Fallout 3, Tenpenny came from England, suggesting that England still has civilization. You don't need Vaults for it to be just Fallout, England would have nuclear war bunkers.

Europe had already had a limited nuclear exchange with the middle east in the resource wars, it's pretty easy to justify the government deciding to build a few bunkers (or you know, just use one of the many we have already) just in case it escalates next time.

You don't even need bunkers. Remember little lamplight? Cave systems, mines, large ships out at sea, small remote islands, isolated survivalists, deep underground rail systems ete etc. Fallout is fiction and nothing in the lore so far says that Europe (or Asia, Africa etc) is a deserted lifeless wasteland, use your imagination and you can come up with a story that is just as viable as the rest of Fallout.

I can understand if people have their own view of what has happened in the fallout universe based on the lore they've read and would like fallout to develop according to their vision, but to say that you couldn't have a game set in Europe or elsewhere is just wrong. Not that anyone ITT has said that...yet.

 

[chocolate pickles]

Don't really know a lot about fort knox (I'm English), but fighting through Raven Rock and Adams Air force base (the latter particularly) was quite fun.

Again, due to lack of knowledge of American geography, i cant really suggest a location. Would like to see a Fallout set in britian, though 1950's Britain would not have as many firearms as a 1950's America. Could be used to put a emphasis on ammo conservation and melee/unarmed combat, though.

 

[Dansen]

Just chiming in to say that a Fallout based in a place outside the U.S. would be far more interesting than something involving Fort Knox. Sorry OP.

Just chiming in to say that a Fallout based in a place outside the U.S. would be far more interesting than something involving Fort Knox. Sorry OP.

this.
not another " they convieniently spared the most recognisable landmarks in the usa so we can always visit them" trip.

i'd like to see europe, even if in the fallout lore europe took the whole yellow cake of radiation and was/is inhabitable.

but i guess you could re-settle it since the radiation has worn off to acceptable levels.
but we are talking about bedestha.

so we might end up seeing the brotherhood of steel, mutants and ghouls.
everyone likes mutants and ghouls, am i right?

and it doesnt matter that ghouls and mutants could only exist due to the forced evolutionary virus (FEV) combined with radiation.

nope, you get mutants and ghouls just through gama radiation.

also landmarks are immune to atomic bombs and their resulting shockwaves.

Any other country with clash with the established themes. If fallout took place in any other place other than 1950s Cold War America the game would suffer for it.

OT: Sound like a cool location, it could be a DLC at the very least.

 

[Zenn3k]

There is one problem with setting an entire game around Fort Knox.

Fort Knox is in Kentucky. Kentucky has nothing even remotely interesting about it, its basically trees and hills with a fair number of horses. There are no major landmarks outside of the Bullion Depository, which itself is fairly small and boring looking.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&gl=us&q=united+states+bullion+depository&ie=UTF-8

Its just a boring location. I might be suitable for DLC or something, but as a major area to focus a game around? No.

 

[ultrabiome]

Sorry to the other posters, but I don't think Fallout would be Fallout without it being in the United States as the whole '1950s USA' aesthetic is what makes it Fallout. You could call it Fallout, but it'd really just be another post-nuclear apocalypse game set somewhere else. Things like pip-boy, the vaults and vault costumes and even the music is tied heavily to America.

Yes, you could set it in England, but I don't think it would feel right.
Some examples to make this clearer:
Fallout: Australia -> Mad Max
Fallout: Russia -> Metro

I get people want to see what the rest of the world is like in Fallout, but other things that are very Fallout, like the Super Mutants and Brotherhood would seem out of place anywhere else (why would they have the same looking power armor everywhere? and if they didn't... could it even be called Fallout?).

Call it Wasteland (already taken), or Nuclear Rebirth, or I don't know, but not Fallout.

Besides, there are lots of other places in the United States that could be used. New Orleans, New York City, Boston, Florida, Denver, Chicago, Seattle all have fairly unique and identifiable cultures, landmarks and geography while still being very American and could still use vaults and Vault-Tec, have Super Mutants, the Brotherhood, and everything else that makes Fallout what it is.

 

[eternal-chaplain]

I suppose as a set piece, yes it would work. But one thing I liked about Fallout 3 was that your character had at least a strong motivation to go on his great journey. While I'm not saying it is impossible to give the player a reason to go to Fort Knox,on the surface it sounds like the risk far outweighs the reward. I can see, however, Fort Knox playing a large role in a larger story--gold is a rather versatile element and is often a key component to space crafts, so perhaps some smaller plot line involves sending a rocket into space to solve some task or another, and its heat shielding has already been looted by gold-hunters or some other post-apocalyptic sect-bullshit and you engage in a large sub-quest to go get some gold out of Fort Knox...because for whatever reason you can't just go get it back from the people who took it.

With enough arbitration and side-stepping of plot holes, it could be worked in.

 

[Dansen]

Any other country with clash with the established themes. If fallout took place in any other place other than 1950s Cold War America the game would suffer for it.

yes, because people in europe dressed like this until the 90's

one of the main themes of fallout is change and survival of it.

thats why in new vegas (made by most of the original black isle studios) you dont fight mainly mutants and brotherhood of steel members.

you get to face new enemies and factions like it was the case in fallout 1 and 2. every game a new enemy with the same damn amount of greed and lust for power.
war never changes. (players change, motives and agendas stay almost the same)

Way to find an insult when there was none...
The fact that you assumed I know nothing about Europe is insulting in and of itself.

I am all for post apocalyptic games set in other areas, but I don't think they should be labeled under the fallout name. The fact that the game is set in America is an essential part of the franchises identity, sorry but you definitely won't be seeing a European based fallout game anytime soon. If these games are to be made I believe that if they are made they should be made by developers from that area, because they will be able to make a way more accurate and compelling than an American developer could ever hope to accomplish.

 

[Lt. Rocky]

Rumors [http://www.onlysp.com/2012/08/18/fallout-4-to-take-place-in-boston/] have suggested that the upcoming and currently unannounced Fallout 4 is taking place in and around Boston, Massachusetts.

With that, I can only suggest an easter egg refering to the TF2 Scout.