Ideas for improvements or new perks for Modern Warfare 2?

[Guitar Gamer]

multiple attachments perk

no god-like M16

no juggeranut

MORE GUNS!!!!

maps with more detail, rather than an isolated area for you to walk around in

this and a perk that removes your gamer tag from enemies sights, that way sniper's Ghillie suit would actually do F*ck all

 

[Shurikens and Lightning]

No host, squads, and I would love to see a warzone from killzone 2 game mode.

For those that dont play k2: A team objective based game, with constantly changing objectives.

 

[Blitzkrieg8]

Getting rid of pre-teens.

That who be Awesome, a perk that finds Pre-teens and blows up their Console in a fiery explosion visible from space

What if a pre-teen starts to play on YOUR console?

All of my controllers require finger print scan before playing and are rigged to stab pre-teens with aids infected needles if it's the wrong finger print. if they bring their own controller then i chuck and chipmunk at them

 

[Avatar Roku]

get rid of UAV's, airstrikes, and choppers. They ruin all fun and you get undeserving kills and deaths.
Also, no vehivles, no noob tubes, no rpg's, no rocketlaunchers, no juggernaut

Everyone spawns in areas unreachable by the other team to prevent spawn killing but you also can't camp there.

No late join

All challenges unlocked from the start.

only 55 levels, 10 prestiges

Allow more than one attachment on a gun but you must get headshots to earn them.

no hosts

*Claps for the Console Tard*
All of those are insanely dumb for the PC version, and I would imagine the console versions as well.

Sorry for offending the PC gaming master race. But I'm honestly tired of people getting kills they don't desereve. People frequently know where I am because the noobs on my team suck so much. On other occasions, I get tossed into games already in progress where the team I'm on is getting annhilated. Do really need juggernaut and one-hit kills to keep your pathetic ass alive? Do you actually beleive you earned a kill when you kill someone when they spawn before your eyes? You also seem like the type of person to have played 1v1 cage matches and demand that the other person die 10 times via headshot so you canpimp out you M16 with red tiger camo.I kno u could care less, but I actually happen to be very good at the CoD series so I've been puzzled as to why I think it's the worst FPS series ever concieved, even worse than halo. I just want to see balanced multiplayer in a game for once; unsymmetrical maps and overpowered weapons+perks contribute to CoD4 being overrated crap. The PC version is probably played vastly different because of the control interface. On the PS3 version, the best strategy is too grab a p90 and spray bullets everywhere until everyone on the other team falls to the ground and then bitches and whines in the lobby that i'm a noob when they sit in the back with an M16.

Oh, and I think the in-game bonuses should be given to people who complete objectives in objective games, and be pick ups laying around in DM games. It's pretty ridiculous to me that a game would help the person on top stay there.

I'll address this to both of you: it's called multiplayer pacing. When someone does well, you help them continue to do well for A)Positive reinforcement (i.e, you actually have a reason to strive to do well) and B)That amazing feeling you get when you rampage. That's one thing that makes multiplayer games so addictive. Valve did the same thing with Critical Hits in TF2, they made players doing well more likely to get them (Crit guaranteed weapons like the Sniper Rifle and Backburner notwithstanding).

 

[Travdelosmuertos]

I'll address this to both of you: it's called multiplayer pacing. When someone does well, you help them continue to do well for A)Positive reinforcement (i.e, you actually have a reason to strive to do well) and B)That amazing feeling you get when you rampage. That's one thing that makes multiplayer games so addictive. Valve did the same thing with Critical Hits in TF2, they made players doing well more likely to get them (Crit guaranteed weapons like the Sniper Rifle and Backburner notwithstanding).

I disagree that TF2's crits are there as a psychological reward. It's there to add an element of unpredictability to the game. The reasoning behind increasing the crit rate on players doing well is to create a sense of momentum, which TF2 is heavily dependent upon.

Your reasoning for striving to do well should be to do one of two things:

1) Help yourself
2) Help your team

If either of those aren't good enough reason to do well in a game, then why the hell are you playing? If you complete objectives, you help yourself AND your team. Plus, the point of domination, sabotage and search and destroy is to complete an objective. Forcing people to complete those objectives is a great way to help pacing, increase player teamwork and reward people for doing well. You don't want to reward someone for sitting in a corner with a W1A1 + stopping power racking kills as people walk by, you want to reward them for playing with their team. This also creates more tension and more exciting battles by giving players an incentive to be on the front lines.

I see too many people play domination like it's Team DM because they have to camp objectives in order to keep their K up. So they sit twenty feet back from a flag in a well hidden spot and kill anyone going for the objective. Meanwhile, they ignore my calls for help to cap the flag on the center hill in bog. WTF? If you want to play DM, go play it.

 

[Barry93]

get rid of UAV's, airstrikes, and choppers. They ruin all fun and you get undeserving kills and deaths.
Also, no vehivles, no noob tubes, no rpg's, no rocketlaunchers, no juggernaut

Everyone spawns in areas unreachable by the other team to prevent spawn killing but you also can't camp there.

No late join

All challenges unlocked from the start.

only 55 levels, 10 prestiges

Allow more than one attachment on a gun but you must get headshots to earn them.

no hosts

*Claps for the Console Tard*
All of those are insanely dumb for the PC version, and I would imagine the console versions as well.

Sorry for offending the PC gaming master race. But I'm honestly tired of people getting kills they don't desereve. People frequently know where I am because the noobs on my team suck so much. On other occasions, I get tossed into games already in progress where the team I'm on is getting annhilated. Do really need juggernaut and one-hit kills to keep your pathetic ass alive? Do you actually beleive you earned a kill when you kill someone when they spawn before your eyes? You also seem like the type of person to have played 1v1 cage matches and demand that the other person die 10 times via headshot so you canpimp out you M16 with red tiger camo.I kno u could care less, but I actually happen to be very good at the CoD series so I've been puzzled as to why I think it's the worst FPS series ever concieved, even worse than halo. I just want to see balanced multiplayer in a game for once; unsymmetrical maps and overpowered weapons+perks contribute to CoD4 being overrated crap. The PC version is probably played vastly different because of the control interface. On the PS3 version, the best strategy is too grab a p90 and spray bullets everywhere until everyone on the other team falls to the ground and then bitches and whines in the lobby that i'm a noob when they sit in the back with an M16.

Yes, because god forbid anyone EVER kill you right? Hmmm Kill streaks are undeserved kills? You mean the ones where you have to kill 3 people, then 5, then 7 in one life? Yeah, they TOTALLY didn't deserve the four or so extra kills they get. Do not ***** about join games in progress already... that is what EVERY SINGLE PC GAMER DOES. There are servers that people join, and you know what? People don't ***** if their team loses! CoD is the type of multiplayer that rewards you for your own individual skill, and also a little bit of teamwork wouldn't kill you. I play on hardcore mode (Like practically every pc gamer), and even in stock, juggernaut does not give you so much health that you are god. Sure, it may take 5 more bullets, but if you have a fully automatice rifle, I would imagine that wouldn't matter now would it? FYI, no cage matches on PC so no I wouldn't. Also, I just got the Red Tiger for the R700, M4, G36c, and p90. Why? because I only played with those weapons! I am not some camo whore who concentrated on getting all gold, I just got them through playing the game. A truly good player at COD can work around even unbalanced weapons like the noob tube. Don't use excuses to try and make yourself look good. Let me make every map a fucking box for you then if you want symmetry! Long story short, you are why I play pc.

Alright fine, how about 5,10, and then 15 kills so a UAV isn't being spammed every10 seconds. And no, they and myself don't deserve a kill if I/they didn't actually kill them directly. If 80,000 people are online I don't see why I can't just start a game from the beginning rather then get tossed into game where the enemy team has UAV's and probably a chopper; If I had started from the beginning, they would've never got them. I don't beleive I was bitching about juggernaut, i can easily get around it, but it just needs to go or at least make the player move slower while using it. Either way, your a loser if you use it. About camo, I guess I'm just pissed about every single time I go into a 1v1, an annoying pre-teen sitting there picking his nose shouts into his mic "ya wanna play headshots?" And I have to constantly leave and join many lobbies until I find someone who actually wants to play the fucking game. I have red tiger for p90, ak-74u, mini-uzi, skorpion, ak-47, g36c, rpd, and the 50.cal which is pretty much all I use. Not even truly elite players can get around the noob tube even if someone is slightly good with it. All you have to do have some sense of aim and then press a button. As for symmetry, all the maps being squares has nothing to with it. Is it too much to ask for an even map, apparently so says the master race. Since my skill level is now up for discussion, here's my stats 2.78k/d and 40k kills. Essentially, I'm that guy who ruins the gaming experince for everyone else while i sit there with a '30 kill streak' across my screen and occasionally saying fuck this game. The reason why i don't play hardcore is because a lot of people never use a silencer(probably where the term 'console tard' comes from) but more importantly, I need to know where my 'teamates' are. It's ironic you call us console tards because you play a typical console tard game. The only difference between the PC and PS3 version is that on the PS3 version, there are more clueless dickheads to kill.

 

[Solytus]

I would undoubtedly remove the host-based online multiplayer matches and get some dedicated, reliable servers up. I cannot count how many times the words, "Host Ended Game" came up on my screen.

 

[thenoblitt]

When you get 7 kills in a row in multiplayer it should give you a jetpack, and the golden gun, and it you should go into god mode for 30 seconds possibly 20

 

[Halfbreed13]

get rid of UAV's, airstrikes, and choppers. They ruin all fun and you get undeserving kills and deaths.
Also, no vehivles, no noob tubes, no rpg's, no rocketlaunchers, no juggernaut

Everyone spawns in areas unreachable by the other team to prevent spawn killing but you also can't camp there.

No late join

All challenges unlocked from the start.

only 55 levels, 10 prestiges

Allow more than one attachment on a gun but you must get headshots to earn them.

no hosts

*Claps for the Console Tard*
All of those are insanely dumb for the PC version, and I would imagine the console versions as well.

Sorry for offending the PC gaming master race. But I'm honestly tired of people getting kills they don't desereve. People frequently know where I am because the noobs on my team suck so much. On other occasions, I get tossed into games already in progress where the team I'm on is getting annhilated. Do really need juggernaut and one-hit kills to keep your pathetic ass alive? Do you actually beleive you earned a kill when you kill someone when they spawn before your eyes? You also seem like the type of person to have played 1v1 cage matches and demand that the other person die 10 times via headshot so you canpimp out you M16 with red tiger camo.I kno u could care less, but I actually happen to be very good at the CoD series so I've been puzzled as to why I think it's the worst FPS series ever concieved, even worse than halo. I just want to see balanced multiplayer in a game for once; unsymmetrical maps and overpowered weapons+perks contribute to CoD4 being overrated crap. The PC version is probably played vastly different because of the control interface. On the PS3 version, the best strategy is too grab a p90 and spray bullets everywhere until everyone on the other team falls to the ground and then bitches and whines in the lobby that i'm a noob when they sit in the back with an M16.

Yes, because god forbid anyone EVER kill you right? Hmmm Kill streaks are undeserved kills? You mean the ones where you have to kill 3 people, then 5, then 7 in one life? Yeah, they TOTALLY didn't deserve the four or so extra kills they get. Do not ***** about join games in progress already... that is what EVERY SINGLE PC GAMER DOES. There are servers that people join, and you know what? People don't ***** if their team loses! CoD is the type of multiplayer that rewards you for your own individual skill, and also a little bit of teamwork wouldn't kill you. I play on hardcore mode (Like practically every pc gamer), and even in stock, juggernaut does not give you so much health that you are god. Sure, it may take 5 more bullets, but if you have a fully automatice rifle, I would imagine that wouldn't matter now would it? FYI, no cage matches on PC so no I wouldn't. Also, I just got the Red Tiger for the R700, M4, G36c, and p90. Why? because I only played with those weapons! I am not some camo whore who concentrated on getting all gold, I just got them through playing the game. A truly good player at COD can work around even unbalanced weapons like the noob tube. Don't use excuses to try and make yourself look good. Let me make every map a fucking box for you then if you want symmetry! Long story short, you are why I play pc.

Alright fine, how about 5,10, and then 15 kills so a UAV isn't being spammed every10 seconds. And no, they and myself don't deserve a kill if I/they didn't actually kill them directly. If 80,000 people are online I don't see why I can't just start a game from the beginning rather then get tossed into game where the enemy team has UAV's and probably a chopper; If I had started from the beginning, they would've never got them. I don't beleive I was bitching about juggernaut, i can easily get around it, but it just needs to go or at least make the player move slower while using it. Either way, your a loser if you use it. About camo, I guess I'm just pissed about every single time I go into a 1v1, an annoying pre-teen sitting there picking his nose shouts into his mic "ya wanna play headshots?" And I have to constantly leave and join many lobbies until I find someone who actually wants to play the fucking game. I have red tiger for p90, ak-74u, mini-uzi, skorpion, ak-47, g36c, rpd, and the 50.cal which is pretty much all I use. Not even truly elite players can get around the noob tube even if someone is slightly good with it. All you have to do have some sense of aim and then press a button. As for symmetry, all the maps being squares has nothing to with it. Is it too much to ask for an even map, apparently so says the master race. Since my skill level is now up for discussion, here's my stats 2.78k/d and 40k kills. Essentially, I'm that guy who ruins the gaming experince for everyone else while i sit there with a '30 kill streak' across my screen and occasionally saying fuck this game. The reason why i don't play hardcore is because a lot of people never use a silencer(probably where the term 'console tard' comes from) but more importantly, I need to know where my 'teamates' are. It's ironic you call us console tards because you play a typical console tard game. The only difference between the PC and PS3 version is that on the PS3 version, there are more clueless dickheads to kill.

Uh, CoD was a pc original >.>

 

[Iron Mal]

If I could hold Infinity Ward at gun point and make reccomendations (actually, let's make that 'demands') then they would be:

1. No Matyrdom/Last Stand perks- Am I the only one who's gotten tired of getting killed by the guy you just put down two seconds ago? I don't like post-mortem kills purely because they defeat the point of killing particular players (if you're unaware that they have one of the mentioned perks then they will usually catch you with your pants down and drop you with a pistol...despite having more gunshot wounds than the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan).

2. No air support- I will admit that it is cool to drop an explosion on a team of enemy snipers or to have a chopper dominate the other team, but it's only cool if that is the turning point in a game (if everything was going to hell until the air support finally turned up), as it is at the moment (where only the best and most successful players are awarded these options) these powers are just deathblows to players who are already being slaughtered.

3. Balance the guns- CoD4 has one of the widest arsenals I've seen in a 360 game (other than Earth Defense Force 2017, no other game has more weapons than that fucker, I assure you)
but it's clear that we have a problem with the balance when half of them are almost never used (how many people do you know who use guns like the Skorpion or the MP55? compare that to the number of people who use the M16, P90 or Barrett 50 cal.)

4. Be more creative with weapon attachments- More of a preference than anything else but rather than giving every gun the 'nade launcher/dot sight/silencer/scope choice how about some other stuff to mix it up? A laser sight or extended magazines? Maybe a bayonet or pistol grip? (Grey Knights with Storm Bolters and true grit ftw)

5. Get rid of grenades- It is incredably annoying when you take a step out from your spawn point and get blown straight to hell because some twat half way across the map got you with the luckiest explosive shotput you have ever seen. I understand that grenades do have their tactical applications and stratigic uses (driving entrenced enemies out of cover and clearing fortified structures), the problem is that no-one actually seems to use the bloody things in this manner. More often than not they will be employed unrealistically as assassination tools (shouldn't that be a sniper rifle's job?) against unweary and unaware players (who are often unaware because it comes from out of nowhere).

Many people defend grenade based attacks in this game because of the nade indicator and the time you get to escape the blast radius or throw it back, let's be realistic, most players will cook their grenades so they explode either on landing or just before it.

With this in mind, how the hell am I supposed to dodge that, smartass?

 

[Guitar Gamer]

If I could hold Infinity Ward at gun point and make reccomendations (actually, let's make that 'demands') then they would be:

1. No Matyrdom/Last Stand perks- Am I the only one who's gotten tired of getting killed by the guy you just put down two seconds ago? I don't like post-mortem kills purely because they defeat the point of killing particular players (if you're unaware that they have one of the mentioned perks then they will usually catch you with your pants down and drop you with a pistol...despite having more gunshot wounds than the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan).

2. No air support- I will admit that it is cool to drop an explosion on a team of enemy snipers or to have a chopper dominate the other team, but it's only cool if that is the turning point in a game (if everything was going to hell until the air support finally turned up), as it is at the moment (where only the best and most successful players are awarded these options) these powers are just deathblows to players who are already being slaughtered.

3. Balance the guns- CoD4 has one of the widest arsenals I've seen in a 360 game (other than Earth Defense Force 2017, no other game has more weapons than that fucker, I assure you)
but it's clear that we have a problem with the balance when half of them are almost never used (how many people do you know who use guns like the Skorpion or the MP55? compare that to the number of people who use the M16, P90 or Barrett 50 cal.)

4. Be more creative with weapon attachments- More of a preference than anything else but rather than giving every gun the 'nade launcher/dot sight/silencer/scope choice how about some other stuff to mix it up? A laser sight or extended magazines? Maybe a bayonet or pistol grip? (Grey Knights with Storm Bolters and true grit ftw)

5. Get rid of grenades- It is incredably annoying when you take a step out from your spawn point and get blown straight to hell because some twat half way across the map got you with the luckiest explosive shotput you have ever seen. I understand that grenades do have their tactical applications and stratigic uses (driving entrenced enemies out of cover and clearing fortified structures), the problem is that no-one actually seems to use the bloody things in this manner. More often than not they will be employed unrealistically as assassination tools (shouldn't that be a sniper rifle's job?) against unweary and unaware players (who are often unaware because it comes from out of nowhere).

Many people defend grenade based attacks in this game because of the nade indicator and the time you get to escape the blast radius or throw it back, let's be realistic, most players will cook their grenades so they explode either on landing or just before it.

With this in mind, how the hell am I supposed to dodge that, smartass?

DON'T YOU SEE? we're not suposed to dodge them! it's all a conspiracy so N00BZ pown us like N00BZ![sup]sorry I just always wanted to say something like that [/sup]

 

[reslik]

Getting rid of pre-teens.

Seriously

Missing one detail.

Getting rid of SCOTTISH pre-teens.

Okay, I'll let that one slide.

just any pre-teen who whines and shouts fag alot and then acuses better players of hacks

 

[Barry93]

get rid of UAV's, airstrikes, and choppers. They ruin all fun and you get undeserving kills and deaths.
Also, no vehivles, no noob tubes, no rpg's, no rocketlaunchers, no juggernaut

Everyone spawns in areas unreachable by the other team to prevent spawn killing but you also can't camp there.

No late join

All challenges unlocked from the start.

only 55 levels, 10 prestiges

Allow more than one attachment on a gun but you must get headshots to earn them.

no hosts

*Claps for the Console Tard*
All of those are insanely dumb for the PC version, and I would imagine the console versions as well.

Sorry for offending the PC gaming master race. But I'm honestly tired of people getting kills they don't desereve. People frequently know where I am because the noobs on my team suck so much. On other occasions, I get tossed into games already in progress where the team I'm on is getting annhilated. Do really need juggernaut and one-hit kills to keep your pathetic ass alive? Do you actually beleive you earned a kill when you kill someone when they spawn before your eyes? You also seem like the type of person to have played 1v1 cage matches and demand that the other person die 10 times via headshot so you canpimp out you M16 with red tiger camo.I kno u could care less, but I actually happen to be very good at the CoD series so I've been puzzled as to why I think it's the worst FPS series ever concieved, even worse than halo. I just want to see balanced multiplayer in a game for once; unsymmetrical maps and overpowered weapons+perks contribute to CoD4 being overrated crap. The PC version is probably played vastly different because of the control interface. On the PS3 version, the best strategy is too grab a p90 and spray bullets everywhere until everyone on the other team falls to the ground and then bitches and whines in the lobby that i'm a noob when they sit in the back with an M16.

Yes, because god forbid anyone EVER kill you right? Hmmm Kill streaks are undeserved kills? You mean the ones where you have to kill 3 people, then 5, then 7 in one life? Yeah, they TOTALLY didn't deserve the four or so extra kills they get. Do not ***** about join games in progress already... that is what EVERY SINGLE PC GAMER DOES. There are servers that people join, and you know what? People don't ***** if their team loses! CoD is the type of multiplayer that rewards you for your own individual skill, and also a little bit of teamwork wouldn't kill you. I play on hardcore mode (Like practically every pc gamer), and even in stock, juggernaut does not give you so much health that you are god. Sure, it may take 5 more bullets, but if you have a fully automatice rifle, I would imagine that wouldn't matter now would it? FYI, no cage matches on PC so no I wouldn't. Also, I just got the Red Tiger for the R700, M4, G36c, and p90. Why? because I only played with those weapons! I am not some camo whore who concentrated on getting all gold, I just got them through playing the game. A truly good player at COD can work around even unbalanced weapons like the noob tube. Don't use excuses to try and make yourself look good. Let me make every map a fucking box for you then if you want symmetry! Long story short, you are why I play pc.

Alright fine, how about 5,10, and then 15 kills so a UAV isn't being spammed every10 seconds. And no, they and myself don't deserve a kill if I/they didn't actually kill them directly. If 80,000 people are online I don't see why I can't just start a game from the beginning rather then get tossed into game where the enemy team has UAV's and probably a chopper; If I had started from the beginning, they would've never got them. I don't beleive I was bitching about juggernaut, i can easily get around it, but it just needs to go or at least make the player move slower while using it. Either way, your a loser if you use it. About camo, I guess I'm just pissed about every single time I go into a 1v1, an annoying pre-teen sitting there picking his nose shouts into his mic "ya wanna play headshots?" And I have to constantly leave and join many lobbies until I find someone who actually wants to play the fucking game. I have red tiger for p90, ak-74u, mini-uzi, skorpion, ak-47, g36c, rpd, and the 50.cal which is pretty much all I use. Not even truly elite players can get around the noob tube even if someone is slightly good with it. All you have to do have some sense of aim and then press a button. As for symmetry, all the maps being squares has nothing to with it. Is it too much to ask for an even map, apparently so says the master race. Since my skill level is now up for discussion, here's my stats 2.78k/d and 40k kills. Essentially, I'm that guy who ruins the gaming experince for everyone else while i sit there with a '30 kill streak' across my screen and occasionally saying fuck this game. The reason why i don't play hardcore is because a lot of people never use a silencer(probably where the term 'console tard' comes from) but more importantly, I need to know where my 'teamates' are. It's ironic you call us console tards because you play a typical console tard game. The only difference between the PC and PS3 version is that on the PS3 version, there are more clueless dickheads to kill.

Uh, CoD was a pc original >.>

I know, but CoD4 wasn't.

 

[Halfbreed13]

get rid of UAV's, airstrikes, and choppers. They ruin all fun and you get undeserving kills and deaths.
Also, no vehivles, no noob tubes, no rpg's, no rocketlaunchers, no juggernaut

Everyone spawns in areas unreachable by the other team to prevent spawn killing but you also can't camp there.

No late join

All challenges unlocked from the start.

only 55 levels, 10 prestiges

Allow more than one attachment on a gun but you must get headshots to earn them.

no hosts

*Claps for the Console Tard*
All of those are insanely dumb for the PC version, and I would imagine the console versions as well.

Sorry for offending the PC gaming master race. But I'm honestly tired of people getting kills they don't desereve. People frequently know where I am because the noobs on my team suck so much. On other occasions, I get tossed into games already in progress where the team I'm on is getting annhilated. Do really need juggernaut and one-hit kills to keep your pathetic ass alive? Do you actually beleive you earned a kill when you kill someone when they spawn before your eyes? You also seem like the type of person to have played 1v1 cage matches and demand that the other person die 10 times via headshot so you canpimp out you M16 with red tiger camo.I kno u could care less, but I actually happen to be very good at the CoD series so I've been puzzled as to why I think it's the worst FPS series ever concieved, even worse than halo. I just want to see balanced multiplayer in a game for once; unsymmetrical maps and overpowered weapons+perks contribute to CoD4 being overrated crap. The PC version is probably played vastly different because of the control interface. On the PS3 version, the best strategy is too grab a p90 and spray bullets everywhere until everyone on the other team falls to the ground and then bitches and whines in the lobby that i'm a noob when they sit in the back with an M16.

Yes, because god forbid anyone EVER kill you right? Hmmm Kill streaks are undeserved kills? You mean the ones where you have to kill 3 people, then 5, then 7 in one life? Yeah, they TOTALLY didn't deserve the four or so extra kills they get. Do not ***** about join games in progress already... that is what EVERY SINGLE PC GAMER DOES. There are servers that people join, and you know what? People don't ***** if their team loses! CoD is the type of multiplayer that rewards you for your own individual skill, and also a little bit of teamwork wouldn't kill you. I play on hardcore mode (Like practically every pc gamer), and even in stock, juggernaut does not give you so much health that you are god. Sure, it may take 5 more bullets, but if you have a fully automatice rifle, I would imagine that wouldn't matter now would it? FYI, no cage matches on PC so no I wouldn't. Also, I just got the Red Tiger for the R700, M4, G36c, and p90. Why? because I only played with those weapons! I am not some camo whore who concentrated on getting all gold, I just got them through playing the game. A truly good player at COD can work around even unbalanced weapons like the noob tube. Don't use excuses to try and make yourself look good. Let me make every map a fucking box for you then if you want symmetry! Long story short, you are why I play pc.

Alright fine, how about 5,10, and then 15 kills so a UAV isn't being spammed every10 seconds. And no, they and myself don't deserve a kill if I/they didn't actually kill them directly. If 80,000 people are online I don't see why I can't just start a game from the beginning rather then get tossed into game where the enemy team has UAV's and probably a chopper; If I had started from the beginning, they would've never got them. I don't beleive I was bitching about juggernaut, i can easily get around it, but it just needs to go or at least make the player move slower while using it. Either way, your a loser if you use it. About camo, I guess I'm just pissed about every single time I go into a 1v1, an annoying pre-teen sitting there picking his nose shouts into his mic "ya wanna play headshots?" And I have to constantly leave and join many lobbies until I find someone who actually wants to play the fucking game. I have red tiger for p90, ak-74u, mini-uzi, skorpion, ak-47, g36c, rpd, and the 50.cal which is pretty much all I use. Not even truly elite players can get around the noob tube even if someone is slightly good with it. All you have to do have some sense of aim and then press a button. As for symmetry, all the maps being squares has nothing to with it. Is it too much to ask for an even map, apparently so says the master race. Since my skill level is now up for discussion, here's my stats 2.78k/d and 40k kills. Essentially, I'm that guy who ruins the gaming experince for everyone else while i sit there with a '30 kill streak' across my screen and occasionally saying fuck this game. The reason why i don't play hardcore is because a lot of people never use a silencer(probably where the term 'console tard' comes from) but more importantly, I need to know where my 'teamates' are. It's ironic you call us console tards because you play a typical console tard game. The only difference between the PC and PS3 version is that on the PS3 version, there are more clueless dickheads to kill.

Uh, CoD was a pc original >.>

I know, but CoD4 wasn't.

The typical console tard game would be Halo, or KZ2, or Gears, you know, mindless shooters with very little uniqueness.

 

[Halfbreed13]

I quote the lead design (I think) who was just on GTTV's E3 preview: "Multi player is fucking awesome, that's all I can say."

Yes, yes, not really a big deal, but I still came a little...

 

[Halfbreed13]

AUG (definite, seen with scope)
FAMAS (definite, seen with red dot sight)
UMP (definite, seen with red dot sight)
Glock 22 (or some other Glock variant, definite)
KRISS Super V Vector SMG (definite, seen with no attachment and possibly seen with suppressor)
M4 (or some other AR-15 variant with a sliding stock, definite, seen with just a suppressor in one part, ACOG and Grenade Launcher together in another)
M16 (or some other AR-15 variant with a solid stock, seen on cover art, highly probable, seen with a red dot sight)
AK-103 (or some other modernized AK-47 variant, definite, seen with red dot sight and ACOG)
Dragunov (definite, seen with sniper scope)
RPD (definite)
M21 (highly probable, seen with sniper scope)
MP5 (possibly the MP5K variant, definite)
M1911 (definite)
M1014 (highly probable)
Shield (definite)