If I didn't like Fallout, will I like Skyrim?

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evilneko

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The two are unrelated. I do not think you should decide whether you will like Skyrim based on whether you liked New Vegas.
 

ComradeJim270

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How about you play Fallout 3, the better Fallout game? Or you could just play oblivion, which is actually part of the series you are asking about. That would make more sense. Also disregard my personal opinions and everyone else's on here before playing these two games so you can build your own opinions on these wonderful rpg vijemagames.
I am now biting my tongue... my opinion on Fallout 3 doesn't matter here, but I don't think someone who disliked New Vegas will enjoy it. The rest of this is sound advice I think. Skyrim will probably be along the same lines as Oblivion.
 

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Well, since the game hasn't come out yet I'll have to base my post on trailers and previous games in the series.

In the TES series you do find lots of stuff, but the uses for the items is usually fairly obvious, with the exception of a few items that don't really do anything.

The plots in general have been very linear, but they're never the main attraction.

TES IV had few enough bugs that you would have to go searching for them to make them happen, so bugs weren't really a problem, though they are using a new engine so don't expect it bug free at launch.

Lastly, the gameplay trailer, which showed the xbox 360 version,had wonderfully detailed environments, but was a little heavy on the bloom


hope this helps.
 

King Toasty

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Probably. Watch all the gameplay you can. I, for one, have already sold my soul to Bethesda for a preorder. Worth it.
 

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666Chaos said:
Here is the thing Skyrim does not come out for another five months so nobody here has played the game and so they cant tell you jack shit about wether you will like it or not.


Oh and if you dont like tons of shit in your inventory then dont pick it up.
Hahaha

 

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TL;DR I didn't like Fallout:NV, is it possible I'll like Skyrim?
I liked Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3, and don't care for New Vegas as much. I still like it, it's just not as good in my opinion. The interface changes from Fallout 3 were annoying, the addition of ironsights(thank goodness you can turn them off, I missed my crosshairs), and the replacement of Nuka-Cola with Sunset Sasparilla...perhaps I need to get farther in it first.

4173 said:
Is Skyrim keeping the obnoxious leveling system?
What obnoxious leveling system would this be? The one where your skills level you up instead of experience points? Yeah, I believe so, that's how Elder Scrolls games work.

Oh, and Kingdom Hearts is not an RPG. It's more like a Zelda game than anything else.
 

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King Toasty said:
Probably. Watch all the gameplay you can. I, for one, have already sold my soul to Bethesda for a preorder. Worth it.
Your soul is only worth $59.99?! Had I known...

OT: Yeah... avoid Bethesda RPGs if what you mentioned turns you off. That's most of what there is to those games. I would suggest Mass Effect 2, though, if you haven't played it. Most of your problems with Fallout are corrected in that game.
 

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4173 said:
Is Skyrim keeping the obnoxious leveling system?
What obnoxious leveling system would this be? The one where your skills level you up instead of experience points? Yeah, I believe so, that's how Elder Scrolls games work.
I'm pretty sure that was referring to how the enemies level up with you.
 

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I liked Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3, and don't care for New Vegas as much. I still like it, it's just not as good in my opinion. The interface changes from Fallout 3 were annoying, the addition of ironsights(thank goodness you can turn them off, I missed my crosshairs), and the replacement of Nuka-Cola with Sunset Sasparilla...perhaps I need to get farther in it first.
Interface changes? What interface changes? I didn't notice any drastic changes.

How are iron sights a problem if you can turn them off? Some people like them, some people don't, complaing about that is stupid.

Uhhh they didn't replace Nuka Cola with Sunset Sarsaparilla, Nuka Cola is still in the game, in fact they even added more versions of Nuka Cola than F3 so I fail to see your point.
 

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I know a lot of you guys here on the Escapist are really big RPG fans, so I figured there couldn't be a better place to ask this. I bought Fallout: New Vegas when it came out because I was looking for something sophisticated and complex to play, something I could really get immersed in. I've played RPGs before, but I guess you could say this was my first "Big boy RPG", because my previous ones consisted of Kingdom Hearts and Pokemon.

I enjoyed Fallout a decent amount at first, but it just kind of stopped for me. A lot of things turned me off. The biggest game breaker for me was all the stuff in my inventory. I didn't know what half the items did that I picked up, and my pack filled up far too quick. I quickly became frustrated with taking so much time to sell all the useless shit I picked up, and I'd really just want to get on with things.

I don't know if Skyrim follows the same kind of mechanic, but I also didn't like the story, and the whole "choose your own path and your own destiny" wasn't my thing. It all came from endless character dialogue, there were hardly any cool cutscenes to be found.

And the bugs, oh jesus. I was sad when I found out Elder Scrolls and Fallout were both made by Bethesda, after I experienced Bethesda's failure to make the game free of glitches. The game constantly froze and a few other things happened that I wouldn't expect of anything past Nintendo 64 days. Can I trust Skyrim will be better at this?

A bit of a minor issue, but some of the graphics were kind of subpar compared to other games I've played. It looked pretty blah. I know there was a huge world to make and everything, but Red Dead Redemption had a huge world as well, and that game looked pretty decent.

I've gone on for a while now so I think I'll just end here. Am I just not an RPG kind of guy, or do I just really not like Fallout? Oh yeah, I'll add that I really enjoy fantasy stuff.

P.S. I hope I don't catch any flames for this but, I will be playing this on a PS3, because my PC probably can't handle it and modding doesn't interest me.

TL;DR I didn't like Fallout:NV, is it possible I'll like Skyrim?
The question is more if you liked Oblivion, would you like Skyrim? and you have to remember, New Vegas was made by Obsidian and PUBLISHED by Bethesda. Just like how 2K published Duke Nukem Forever, but it was made by 3D Realms and "finished" by Gearbox.
 

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Sounds like it's not your thing, then. Elder Scrolls games are all about the big sandbox with very little story to get in your way, and they tend to be very glitchy. Plus, if you found the story of New Vegas (by Obsidian) minimal, you really won't like something written by Bethesada haha.
 

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Hold on. There is a lot of useless crap you pick up in WRPGs, yeah, but outside of Fallout 3 and NV, it seems to me that the crap is much more easily distinguishable from the good stuff. Basically, if it's worse than your current gear or isn't an alchemy ingredient/potion, it's crap. That's not very hard to figure out.

Think of everything but the best weapons and armor as Nuggets and Pearls.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I wasnt that much of a fan of fallout 3 or new vegas either but I really enjoyed oblivion so I would say there is a good chance you will enjoy it even thought you didnt like fallout
 

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ComradeJim270 said:
I'm pretty sure that was referring to how the enemies level up with you.
Oh. Well I still don't see how that's obnoxious.

ChupathingyX said:
Interface changes? What interface changes? I didn't notice any drastic changes.
I keep getting these odd popups in the corners of my screen that I didn't notice in Fallout 3. And I suppose I didn't mean "Interface" so much as I meant "Gameplay". I can't seem to find anyone who can repair my items for me, pretty much all the healing items heal over time now instead of right away, I have a ton of bullet casings my character collects for no reason whatsoever, the speech and other challenges are no longer "challenges" so much as "you can't pass them unless you have this much of this skill" compared to there being a certain percent of success like there was in Fallout 3.

ChupathingyX said:
How are iron sights a problem if you can turn them off? Some people like them, some people don't, complaing about that is stupid.
There was no reason to add them to the game in the first place. If you're using guns, you're going to be using V.A.T.S. until you run out of AP, and when you run out of AP zooming in helps. Of course, I just plain don't like iron sights much, so that's mainly a personal issue.

ChupathingyX said:
Uhhh they didn't replace Nuka Cola with Sunset Sarsaparilla, Nuka Cola is still in the game, in fact they even added more versions of Nuka Cola than F3 so I fail to see your point.
I assume you missed this:
SinorKirby said:
...perhaps I need to get farther in it first.
I will now add to that by saying not only do I need to get further, I also need to get accustomed to it after playing a bunch of Fallout 3.
 

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Mechanix said:
I know a lot of you guys here on the Escapist are really big RPG fans, so I figured there couldn't be a better place to ask this. I bought Fallout: New Vegas when it came out because I was looking for something sophisticated and complex to play, something I could really get immersed in. I've played RPGs before, but I guess you could say this was my first "Big boy RPG", because my previous ones consisted of Kingdom Hearts and Pokemon.
Two things here; Why the hell IS the Escapist a fan of?
And two, how did you miss every other RPG ever?


Mechanix said:
I enjoyed Fallout a decent amount at first, but it just kind of stopped for me. A lot of things turned me off. The biggest game breaker for me was all the stuff in my inventory. I didn't know what half the items did that I picked up, and my pack filled up far too quick. I quickly became frustrated with taking so much time to sell all the useless shit I picked up, and I'd really just want to get on with things.
You have what I call 'Zelda Syndrome' you pick up everything figuring it'll be useful. Frankly, the Fallout/Elder Scrolls games of late have put itemization down to a lower notch then most other RPGs. In fallout I retinely found myself dropping old weapons to make room for new ones and working around that (since I played a low strength character, I was quite limited and had to make the most of it.)

That said, inventory has always been a problem in these series. My advice is this; If you don't know what it is, pick it up. If you think you can use it; drop what you were using before. If it looks valuable, sell it later. But don't haul so much around.


Mechanix said:
I don't know if Skyrim follows the same kind of mechanic, but I also didn't like the story, and the whole "choose your own path and your own destiny" wasn't my thing. It all came from endless character dialogue, there were hardly any cool cutscenes to be found.
URGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTOEACHTHEREOWNURRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

But really, if you like railroads; take the train to work. If you wanna make your own way, drive yourself.

But that said; linearity normally has some cost of immersion. Elder Scrolls allows for free roaming and screwing off to murder goblins for being different. When it comes to Pokemon, when I was younger (MUCH YOUNGER) I found outside of training and gyms; there wasn't enough in the world to keep me fully invested. With Elder Scrolls; You're part of the story (namely in Oblivion where everything else have nothing to do with you but you're just nailed to the stories coat-tail) and like Fallout, generally you do still have to make your own name, but the fashion in which is done is different.


Mechanix said:
And the bugs, oh jesus. I was sad when I found out Elder Scrolls and Fallout were both made by Bethesda, after I experienced Bethesda's failure to make the game free of glitches. The game constantly froze and a few other things happened that I wouldn't expect of anything past Nintendo 64 days. Can I trust Skyrim will be better at this?
Welcome to Obsidian's Programming team!

Mechanix said:
A bit of a minor issue, but some of the graphics were kind of subpar compared to other games I've played. It looked pretty blah. I know there was a huge world to make and everything, but Red Dead Redemption had a huge world as well, and that game looked pretty decent.
GAMEBYRO!

Mechanix said:
I've gone on for a while now so I think I'll just end here. Am I just not an RPG kind of guy, or do I just really not like Fallout? Oh yeah, I'll add that I really enjoy fantasy stuff.
Personally? At any point here you could have mentioned you're more of a multiplayer guy and I would have pointed you at like, Diablo 3 and League of Legends.

Frankly; I think you just don't get the vibe of modern action RPGs. Not to sound old; but if I was younger when I played Fallout 3, I wouldn't have appreciated it as much.


Mechanix said:
P.S. I hope I don't catch any flames for this but, I will be playing this on a PS3, because my PC probably can't handle it and modding doesn't interest me.
The PC Gaming Master Race isn't for everyone.

Mechanix said:
TL;DR I didn't like Fallout:NV, is it possible I'll like Skyrim?
Yes but you need to take what you learned in NV and be ready to expand on that.
 

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try Oblivion or rather Morrowind if you like one of those you will like Skyrim.
I think there will still be junk items but use some common sense do you really think anybody in post-apocalyptic Nevada is looking for empty soda bottles?
 

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You don't have to pick up all the ash trays and empty nuka-cola bottles.

The first page of posts say everything that needs to be said: try oblivion and morrowind. The biggest problem with starting off will be that you have no money and crappy equipment. Once you get going you'll be fine though.