If I didnt like Oblivion, could I like Skyrim?

[Vault101]

Fallout: New Vegas still has the bug eyed stare issue, but they have been improving.

New Vegas.. There's a food vendor right next to the entrance of Freeside... One time I talked to him and his mouth didn't move.

Scared the shit out of me.

he could read your thourghts......as he was gazing into you SOUL

 

[Guitar Gamer]

well I believe oyu COULD like SKyrim, only playing the game will reveal weather or not you will. But from what I can tell by the reasons you put down about Oblivion, there is no reason why Skryim couldn't surprise and imperss you. From what I have heard, you the pc is more plot centeral now, and what I have seen from the trailers makes the npc's look and act like humans and not poorly constructed robots.

 

[ChupathingyX]

as for the protagonist...this is just me but Its not very satisfying if I can make them up to be anything...but the game still treats me the same..I mean even dialuge options would be nice

... You do realize that Oblivion was filled to the brim with dialogue options, right...?Dialogue options? You mean those single words or name that give you no indication of what your character is about to say?

For example in Fallout games someone could ask you; "What do you think of John Smith?". You coould have options like; "He's good", "He's an ass", "Who?". In Oblivion these kind of questions barely came up and I think this really limits the kind of character customization abailable in Oblivion. You don't have a personality.

 

[Dumori]

this is probably a question better asked when it actually comes out

but yeah I?m pretty "meh" about skyrim

and I didnt like oblivion because

-blank main charachter...like black hole levels of blank
-uninteresting story..not nesicariliy the story the but I just couldnt care about what was going on
-weird leveling
-uncanny valley to the max
-an overall dullness
-no sense of conection to whats going on

I think most of this is due to that fact I played fallout 3 beforehand so yeah it was really like a step backwards

Let me answer each point in turn.
The black whole blankness is by designe in every eldar scrolls game. You project the whys as you are making the character form the ground up. It can be a bit odd at times but the emptiness is deliberate.

I found the main plot a bit hard to get in too my self but I had a lot of fun not giving a shit about it and doing other character based goals.

Sure the levelling is different I find it part of the charm of the setting. A serious brake form the xp grinding of most RPGs.

Bah you you though oblivion was wacky play the ones before. Again part of the charm of the setting it's all as consistent as you'd expect in a game setting though a few retcons but no jarring changes. Skyrim will be going back to Morrowind levels of weird though.

Oblivion did lack a sense of colour in the setting mostly the fault of setting it in the middle of the different cultures and customs not in a seat of a race but the central capital.

Lack of connection links back to the lack of character depth I guess think up a back-story and a reasons for goals you set. Becomes much more fun but these are games where you need goals either out of character or in character this type of RPG is rare but it has a following.

Personally I think it might be worth picking up Morrowind it suffers more from some flaws such as repetitive voices, is much weirder setting wise, has a much lower graphical quality as well as a few nasty bugs in the official patch. Fan patches do fix 90% of all reported bugs. The one major pro is Morrowind should be dirt cheap to buy. While I have sunk over 1500 hour in to that game and thus am biased to the max I loved it while suffering from a lack of drive and connection to Oblivion's plot. With Skyrim's plot being more personal much like Morrowinds I can see it being an enjoyable game.

 

[Josh Horton]

[link]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/previews/8797-Skyrim-Preview[/link]

here this might help you

 

[Gaiseric]

God I hope so.

I really want Skyrim to be much better than Oblivion(especially from a technical stand point).

I needs my medieval RPG fix.

 

[Vault101]

as for the protagonist...this is just me but Its not very satisfying if I can make them up to be anything...but the game still treats me the same..I mean even dialuge options would be nice

... You do realize that Oblivion was filled to the brim with dialogue options, right...?Dialogue options? You mean those single words or name that give you no indication of what your character is about to say?

For example in Fallout games someone could ask you; "What do you think of John Smith?". You coould have options like; "He's good", "He's an ass", "Who?". In Oblivion these kind of questions barely came up and I think this really limits the kind of character customization abailable in Oblivion. You don't have a personality.

exactally, thats what I ment when I said my charachter was "blank"

 

[kayisking]

OP, you might like it. You might not. You'll have to wait. I, for one, love that style of game. The whole "Here's a sword, a map, and a wish for good luck. Now run along!" type of game is something that I didn't think I would like when I picked up Oblivion for the first time, but then I emerged, dreary-eyed and zombielike, after playing it and I loved it.

It does sound a whole lot like Oblivion, though, so you might want to wait a while. They are trying to work on the uncanny valley parts of the game, and they're really working on the plot and quests. They're making everything a bit more dynamic. Give the game a chance, OP, but if you didn't like Oblivion then I would highly suggest against buying it early until it's been out for a few months. Or you could borrow it from a friend or something.

EDIT: As for blank slate - yeah, I want that to stay the same. Why on Earth would I want them to give the character I'm creating a backstory? That's the very reason you weren't told why your character was in jail. You were supposed to answer that one yourself.

I think you can allow for deep role playing while adding a little charachter

like fallout 3 I liked becase right at the start I FELT somthing for the main charachter, I mean in my head I flshed out a personality/image btu I had somthing to work with, she had a place in the world of fallout

I mean even somthing as simple as dialouge options

plus If you imporve the story and charachters...then you get a situation where EVERYONE else is more interesting than you which is annoying...

but thats jsut me

as for the protagonist...this is just me but Its not very satisfying if I can make them up to be anything...but the game still treats me the same..I mean even dialuge options would be nice

... You do realize that Oblivion was filled to the brim with dialogue options, right...?Dialogue options? You mean those single words or name that give you no indication of what your character is about to say?

For example in Fallout games someone could ask you; "What do you think of John Smith?". You coould have options like; "He's good", "He's an ass", "Who?". In Oblivion these kind of questions barely came up and I think this really limits the kind of character customization abailable in Oblivion. You don't have a personality.

exactally, thats what I ment when I said my charachter was "blank"

The point of the game is that you have to imagine what kind of character you are, not thorugh dialouge but through action. Actions define a character. It's called roleplaying (not the game, but becoming another character).

Ps. Please excuse my poor English, I am not a native speaker.

 

[Vault101]

Ps. Please excuse my poor English, I am not a native speaker.

that is...actually a good point...

like samus people didnt feel right about her in other M because her past actions told a different story to the one she was blandly monolgueing

 

[justnotcricket]

I think your question should be 'Do I want to like Skyrim'? If you do, give it a chance and see how it goes. The fact that you're asking about this suggests either:

a) You might be overly concerned about fitting in with something that a lot of people are looking forward to/like a lot, in which case, let it go and ust play what you want.

b) You actually kind of did enjoy some aspects of Oblivion and are curios to see if Skyrim fits better into your ideas of how things should be, in which case, give it a try. Or wiat to see if everyone says something like 'Fans of Oblivion will love this' then steer clear. If they say something like '...fresh new direction' you might be OK?

 

[Realitycrash]

this is probably a question better asked when it actually comes out

but yeah Im pretty "meh" about skyrim

and I didnt like oblivion because

-blank main charachter...like black hole levels of blank
-uninteresting story..not nesicariliy the story the but I just couldnt care about what was going on
-weird leveling
-uncanny valley to the max
-an overall dullness
-no sense of conection to whats going on

I think most of this is due to that fact I played fallout 3 beforehand so yeah it was really like a step backwards

It will probably be UC-Valley, the gameplay will be mostly the same, and the story..Well, it might be better, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I'v seen the trailers, I'v read the reviews, and if you didn't like Oblivion, you probably wouldn't like this.

 

[captaincabbage]

I reckon there's a good chance you'd like Skyrim if you didn't like Oblivion.

There's been a lot of improovements over Oblivion that have been announced, particularly in the way the world works, with different characters and such allegedly coming off as a lot more believable.
As for the levelling aspect, you'll feel right at home if you've played Fallout 3, since Perks will make a return.

 

[Sejs Cube]

Given those issues, no you probably will not like Skyrim.

Some of the graphics and mechanical issues will be smoother than they were in Oblivion, but the seemingly open-ended plot and tabula rasa protagonist... that's endemic to the Elder Scrolls franchise. That's not going away. Sorry, OP.

 

[Eleima]

see thats the thing I guess fair enough if its some kind of elder scrolls tradition
however its annoying because there is NOTHING to work with, at least in fallout 3 I was a character as I had a place in the world...and dialog options to spice things up
however here if it is improved it would be worse because all the other characters are more interesting than you
and sure the idea here is projection which yes I did for fallout..but personally I don't find it satisfying at all when the game treats me like a walking camera no matter how interesting I "imagine" my character to be, plus isn't it the developers' job to come up with characterization? not mine?

The principle is exactly the same in Fallout 3 as it is in The Elder Scrolls. Okay, so maybe the back story isn't as developed (grow up in a vault, mom died at birth versus dumped in a prison for unknown reasons), but the idea is the same: you emerge in an unknown world, and you must make your place in that world. You are somebody in Cyrodiil, whether it is the Champion of Cyrodiil, the Grey Fox, the ArchMage, a Guildmaster, or the Madgod. You choose your own path, and flesh it out as you will. And you are given something to work with: you're a prisoner whom the Emperor has seen in his dreams,someone who will play a key role in the survival of Tamriel (saving the world not enough? How about saving and ultimately ruling another, then?).

Also, your argument that it's the developers' "job" to provide you with characterization is fallacious. The only job the developers must carry out to the best of their ability is to deliver a quality game which can stand on its own. The way they do that is entirely up to them. Would you say Civilization is bad because there's no characterization? No. Characterization is important in adventure games or games which deliver a streamlined experience or story. This is not the case, this is an open-world RPG, and it doesn't answer to the same rules.

Bottom line, I think that if you've shown anything at all, it's that Skyrim is not for you. Clearly, the gameplay and storytelling mechanics of Oblivion didn't appeal for you, and there's a good chance that Skyrim will follow the same general lines. I, for one, will throw a hissy fit if Skyrim doesn't start off in a prison (and I'm not ashamed to admit it).

And for Heaven's sake, man, get a spell checker, will you? There's a a gazillion plugins for browsers on the Internet, they're just a few clicks away.

 

[NathLines]

Wait for it to come out. We know as much about Skyrim as you do =P I didn't like Oblivion either; I'm hoping that Skyrim will change some of the stuff I didn't like. The only thing we can do is wait though.

 

[Eleima]

I, for one, will throw a hissy fit if Skyrim doesn't start off in a prison (and I'm not ashamed to admit it).

Just asking... why?
I personally want to start off enrolled in a guild that trains dragon slayers.
Of course it would have the words -This place is going to get fucked up after the basic training quests- written all over it, but I could do with some variation of the setting for the beginning.

Hehe.... Clearly, good sir, you are new to the Elder Scrolls. All Elder Scrolls games started off in prison, it's part of the Elder Scrolls folklore!

 

[Trolldor]

this is probably a question better asked when it actually comes out

but yeah Im pretty "meh" about skyrim

and I didnt like oblivion because

-blank main charachter...like black hole levels of blank
-uninteresting story..not nesicariliy the story the but I just couldnt care about what was going on
-weird leveling
-uncanny valley to the max
-an overall dullness
-no sense of conection to whats going on

I think most of this is due to that fact I played fallout 3 beforehand so yeah it was really like a step backwards

If the main character was blank that's because you made them blank.
The whole point of the TES series rests in the idea that you ARE the main character, you create his history and his background.

 

[Andarvi]

Well, I didn't like basic Morrowind nor basic Oblivion.. however after modding them to hell and back (mostly leveling/rebalancing) they are both in my all time favorites list.

I expect the same with Skyrim.

As for the blank main charachter.. that's kinda the point of a TES game.