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There have been lots of interesting decisions with the DC film Universe and the new Fantastic Four movie. Long story short: If you got to choose how the upcoming movies were cast or what they were about what would you do? Ideas are not needed for everything and do not have to be fully complete just whatever you've thought about. Mine are posted below.

Note: This thread is not about what the movie companies are doing or can do but rather would you wished they had decided to do given the movies already released.

My ideas for the movies are in spoilers beacuse it gets long.

Firstly completely scrap the idea of Superman vs Batman etc. for now. Main Villain is Toyman. Set not long after Man of Steel. Starts out with scene establishing Superman is now accepted as a hero (he's saving a plane or a schoolbus etc) prevents explosion from Toyman. At Daily Planet Lois Lane is working on interview with Lex Luthor who has started big plans to redevelop Metropolis after it was heavily damaged in the fight with Zod. Due to Toyman causing chaos Lois is reassigned to reporting on that. Clark is given Lex interview.
Lex introduction scene, in this Lex is both businessman Lex and scientist Lex. We see Lex arguing with an environmental lawyer. Lawyer explains how Lex's redevelopment plans for the city and highways etc destroy local habitats for some endangered species. Lex cruelly destroys the environmental lawyer similar to the way a lawyer would crush a weak witness (imagine the such from Boston Legal) and makes the lawyer seem insignificant and only bringing up this case because he's desperate for attention. Lawyer leaves in tears.
Mercy: "The way you crushed him you'd think you were the lawyer"
Lex: "I run the largest company in America and last week I did (science thing)... by comparison dealing with lawyers is a cakewalk."
Clark enters for interview, Lex swaps to being very kind. Clark hears trouble with Toyman with super-hearing and feints vertigo from looking out the window in Lex's office and rushes to the bathroom, changes and leaves through the window to save day. Lex goes back to do work. Superman diffuses Toyman explosive etc. He returns to interview, Lex has prepared written answers to each of Clarks questions.
Lex: "Feel free to call Mercy at any time if you have any more questions" hands Clark card. Clark leaves. Lex switches from nice back to sinister "Bumbling Buffoon... mentions something to do with water supply and certain time and place which sounds suspicious". Clark overhears.
Clark goes to place and time but at the same time an announcement is made on all the tv's by Toyman that he has hostages and Lois and is doing something evil. Superman has to choose between stopping Toyman or finding out what Lex is up to. Chooses Toyman. Rushes over and saves day, doesn't kill Toyman, speech about never killing again. Toyman goes to jail. Citiens of Metropolis start getting sick. Clark tells Lois he thinks Lex poisoned the watersupply. Lois says he's ridiculous, LexCorp and STAR Labs just developed a cure for the disease. Clark says Lex poisoned people and sold cure for profit. Lois points out Lex isn't making any money of this but Clark is still suspicious. At end of movie press conference over LexCorp merging or buying a division of STAR Labs after they worked together to make the cure (Lead-up for sequel). Clark asks Lois why Toyman started the bombings at that time (e.g. distracting Superman). Movie ends.

For Green Lantern I would just leave him out of the next few movies leading up to the Justice League. Trouble on Oa would be mentioned in a post-credits scene of another DC movie. I would probably want an altered Parallax storyline where you get introduced John Stewart as the main charater and Guy Gardner. Due to Hal/Parallax wrecking havoc on the Green Lantern Corps. John and Guy get rings and have to learn to work together to take down Parallax. You learn about Hal and Parallax etc. and John and Guy fight to stop him. Hal dies sacrificing himself to save the day somehow or something similar. The Guardians then allow John to stay and protect Earth and nearby while Guy is sent to protect the rest of the sector. Doesn't particularly follow the comic books, but then again it doesn't have to and it successfully brushes aside the last movie and replaces Hal with John. I'm not too familiar with Green Lantern so I'm not sure whether this isn't as thought out as Superman.

(My first new thread (Yay?) hope it was okay.)
 

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I'd stop making movies pretentious wannabe epics about Batman. Making a not terrible movie would be a better priority, and the bat family is always more interesting than Batman.
 

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Wonder Woman.

***** deserves a fucking decent movie.

Seriously. How are they making Ant-man before they're making Wonder Woman? I'm generally the first person to insist that the 'inequality' in movies isn't as bad as certain feminist groupings seem to think, however I genuinely find it irritating that, of the DC universe, there was (when I was a child), a "trifecta" if you will, of DC heroes - Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman.

The other two have had recent remakes/reboots/sequels to those remakes/reboots etc. The lass deserves a shot.
 

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I'd probably detonate all the nuclear warheads inside their silos.

Oh. Shame. Well, I suppose I'd stop making Batman and Superman films. They've just...no, there's been enough of that. Go away, Batman and Superman. I'd accelerate the Wonder Woman project and get started on some of the lesser-known superheroes who never got their chance at fame - sidekicks and everybody.
 

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thaluikhain said:
I'd stop making movies pretentious wannabe epics about Batman. Making a not terrible movie would be a better priority, and the bat family is always more interesting than Batman.
Yeah this. I would make the movies not terrible. They don't even have to the best movies ever. But if Marvel is doing it I'm sure DC can. I mean The Guardians of the Galaxy trailer had more characterization in it in 2 min then the whole Man of Steel movie.
 

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I'd erase Wonder Woman from the Superman sequel, tear Eisenberg and Gadot's contracts and financially compensate everybody who saw Green Lantern.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
I'd erase Wonder Woman from the Superman sequel, tear Eisenberg and Gadot's contracts and financially compensate everybody who saw Green Lantern.
I think you should give Jesse a chance before you write him off completely.

Sure you can not enjoy Superman and most hated on Green Lantern, but give the man a chance before you throw him to the dogs. And as the OP asked, he said he wanted it on movies 'already released' and the Superman sequel is far from released.

He is not like the Lex Luthor of old, but that doesn't mean he isn't interesting. Plenty of people enjoyed both Jack Nicholson as the joker and Heath Ledger as the joker and there are obviously similarities in the portrayal (as they are playing the same character), but also they are very different.
 

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Ubiquitous Duck said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I'd erase Wonder Woman from the Superman sequel, tear Eisenberg and Gadot's contracts and financially compensate everybody who saw Green Lantern.
I think you should give Jesse a chance before you write him off completely.

Sure you can not enjoy Superman and most hated on Green Lantern, but give the man a chance before you throw him to the dogs. And as the OP asked, he said he wanted it on movies 'already released' and the Superman sequel is far from released.

He is not like the Lex Luthor of old, but that doesn't mean he isn't interesting. Plenty of people enjoyed both Jack Nicholson as the joker and Heath Ledger as the joker and there are obviously similarities in the portrayal (as they are playing the same character), but also they are very different.
Nah, the minute he opens his mouth and speaks in that yappy poodle voice is going to be a deal-breaker for me. And I'm tired of being reminded that "nobody wanted Ledger as the Joker". He looked like a fine choice to me from the get-go.
 

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thaluikhain said:
I'd stop making movies pretentious wannabe epics about Batman. Making a not terrible movie would be a better priority, and the bat family is always more interesting than Batman.
100% agree. Give Batman a rest and let the others shine because too much Batman will just get boring... fast.

Also what I would do, is arrange a meeting with the executives at Warner Bros, that I would like to have more control in the discussion making when it comes to DC movies. Less board members at WB getting involved in the creative process, the better.

Give Superman a break too because deep down, no matter what version of Superman you put on the big screen, certain people (mostly hardcore fan boys) will still complain about something. Am I the only one who is tired of this Jesus symbolism of Superman now? We get it, he's mean't to be this symbol of "hope" and "greatness", but is it so bad to just say that at times he wouldn't be so perfect? Or will I just piss off fans more?

Give other characters in the DC universe more light and not make Aquaman a damn joke anymore. His story is actually interesting and seeing as he controls 70% of earth, I don't think he should be someone to be made fun of. DC, by far, has the better collection of memorable villains and they should capitalise on that more than Marvel.

Oh and the main thing. Get a writing team that knows what they are doing and not have Goyer mess up everything. Not everything needs to be dark and gritty.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Ubiquitous Duck said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I'd erase Wonder Woman from the Superman sequel, tear Eisenberg and Gadot's contracts and financially compensate everybody who saw Green Lantern.
I think you should give Jesse a chance before you write him off completely.

Sure you can not enjoy Superman and most hated on Green Lantern, but give the man a chance before you throw him to the dogs. And as the OP asked, he said he wanted it on movies 'already released' and the Superman sequel is far from released.

He is not like the Lex Luthor of old, but that doesn't mean he isn't interesting. Plenty of people enjoyed both Jack Nicholson as the joker and Heath Ledger as the joker and there are obviously similarities in the portrayal (as they are playing the same character), but also they are very different.
Nah, the minute he opens his mouth and speaks in that yappy poodle voice is going to be a deal-breaker for me. And I'm tired of being reminded that "nobody wanted Ledger as the Joker". He looked like a fine choice to me from the get-go.
I did not mean that nobody wanted Heath Ledger as the Joker as an example. What I meant was that you can enjoy more than one portrayal of a character at the same time. As in, Jesse might not be like Kevin Spacey playing Lex Luthor, but that doesn't mean he won't make an interesting Lex Luthor. You can enjoy more than one interpretation of a character, which is why I used the example of interpretations of the Joker can be different from different people, but you can still enjoy them. In the same vein, you may also enjoy Jesse's version of Lex Luthor.

And give him a chance to win you over. Lots of people turned their backs on Ben Affleck and he brought himself back in a strong performance in Argo and Matthew Mcconaughey is right in the middle of a revival, from a career steeped in rom coms, and has turned this around in Dallas and Wolf.

Give him a chance and you might enjoy it!
 

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Paradox SuXcess said:
thaluikhain said:
I'd stop making movies pretentious wannabe epics about Batman. Making a not terrible movie would be a better priority, and the bat family is always more interesting than Batman.
100% agree. Give Batman a rest and let the others shine because too much Batman will just get boring... fast.

Also what I would do, is arrange a meeting with the executives at Warner Bros, that I would like to have more control in the discussion making when it comes to DC movies. Less board members at WB getting involved in the creative process, the better.

Give Superman a break too because deep down, no matter what version of Superman you put on the big screen, certain people (mostly hardcore fan boys) will still complain about something. Am I the only one who is tired of this Jesus symbolism of Superman now? We get it, he's mean't to be this symbol of "hope" and "greatness", but is it so bad to just say that at times he wouldn't be so perfect? Or will I just piss off fans more?

Give other characters in the DC universe more light and not make Aquaman a damn joke anymore. His story is actually interesting and seeing as he controls 70% of earth, I don't think he should be someone to be made fun of. DC, by far, has the better collection of memorable villains and they should capitalise on that more than Marvel.

Oh and the main thing. Get a writing team that knows what they are doing and not have Goyer mess up everything. Not everything needs to be dark and gritty.
Aren't we already past the gritty Nolan versions of Batman?

I thought he said that the trilogy he has made of Batman films is the end and that he will make no more after Dark Knight Rises. Christian Bale has said he is done as well too right?

So what is this fear of this suddenly reappearing?

Surely Ben Affleck as batman looks like they want the more stoic/more chin batman of the type of batman more seen in the Arkham Asylum (game) world?

He definitely fits that mould more than the 60s Batman of Adam West. Also, this shouldnt be reattempted, lightning only strikes once and all that.
 

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Ubiquitous Duck said:
Paradox SuXcess said:
100% agree. Give Batman a rest and let the others shine because too much Batman will just get boring... fast.

Also what I would do, is arrange a meeting with the executives at Warner Bros, that I would like to have more control in the discussion making when it comes to DC movies. Less board members at WB getting involved in the creative process, the better.

Give Superman a break too because deep down, no matter what version of Superman you put on the big screen, certain people (mostly hardcore fan boys) will still complain about something. Am I the only one who is tired of this Jesus symbolism of Superman now? We get it, he's mean't to be this symbol of "hope" and "greatness", but is it so bad to just say that at times he wouldn't be so perfect? Or will I just piss off fans more?

Give other characters in the DC universe more light and not make Aquaman a damn joke anymore. His story is actually interesting and seeing as he controls 70% of earth, I don't think he should be someone to be made fun of. DC, by far, has the better collection of memorable villains and they should capitalise on that more than Marvel.

Oh and the main thing. Get a writing team that knows what they are doing and not have Goyer mess up everything. Not everything needs to be dark and gritty.
Aren't we already past the gritty Nolan versions of Batman?

I thought he said that the trilogy he has made of Batman films is the end and that he will make no more after Dark Knight Rises. Christian Bale has said he is done as well too right?

So what is this fear of this suddenly reappearing?

Surely Ben Affleck as batman looks like they want the more stoic/more chin batman of the type of batman more seen in the Arkham Asylum (game) world?

He definitely fits that mould more than the 60s Batman of Adam West. Also, this shouldnt be reattempted, lightning only strikes once and all that.
I said not everything needs to be dark and gritty. You can have that if you want for other DC characters but not all the time eg. trying to do the same things with Man of Steel. When I also mentioned Batman, I am not just talking about Nolan's Batman, I am talking about the character being done too many times and needs a break. I personally do not care about what actor plays Batman and what style they are going for because my main idea was Give Batman a break. How many times are you going to milk that IP?

DC has a large gallery of characters to exploit. Marvel has a damn Raccoon in one of their movies coming out this year and yet DC struggle to give Wonder Woman a proper chance? Yeah you have Gal Gadot coming in but how many years did it actually take them to take that next step.
 

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Paradox SuXcess said:
not make Aquaman a damn joke anymore. His story is actually interesting and seeing as he controls 70% of earth,
Aquaman is a damned joke.

There's no two ways about it, he's the least popular, least cared about, least just-about-everything-you-could-name in all the Justice League.

His powers were, for all intents and purposes, the most worthless - with the exception of course of Batman. The difference being that Batman was supposed to be (in some way) relatable - yes he was a rich billionaire type, but he was still a human who relied on technology to raise him up, with all the frailties that come with being human.

Aquaman just... sucks. It doesn't matter that his domain is 70% of the earth, that 70% is not where people are, by and large.


Personal opinion of course, but one I feel that is shared by many, many, many people.
 

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Stu35 said:
Paradox SuXcess said:
not make Aquaman a damn joke anymore. His story is actually interesting and seeing as he controls 70% of earth,
Aquaman is a damned joke.

There's no two ways about it, he's the least popular, least cared about, least just-about-everything-you-could-name in all the Justice League.

His powers were, for all intents and purposes, the most worthless - with the exception of course of Batman. The difference being that Batman was supposed to be (in some way) relatable - yes he was a rich billionaire type, but he was still a human who relied on technology to raise him up, with all the frailties that come with being human.

Aquaman just... sucks. It doesn't matter that his domain is 70% of the earth, that 70% is not where people are, by and large.


Personal opinion of course, but one I feel that is shared by many, many, many people.
He is super strong, super fast, is nearly bulletproof and has a kick-ass trident. He can also summon kraken and other giant deep-sea creatures.

If I were to make a sequal to Green Lantern, I would retcon Parallax as a separate entity only possessing Krona and have him work with Sinestro (played once again by Mark Strong because he was the best thing in the first movie). Also I would give Hal a physical suit and not that CGI... thing that looked like a bad paint job.
 

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I'd get Warner to let DC set up its own movie studio within the corporate structure and give the company enough autonomy to make decisions on the movies on its own (you know, kinda like Marvel Studios). Then, have Arrow and Flash TV series welded into the movie continuity just because it means there are more characters who are established but not 1st rate to use as support characters.

Now the Batman v Superman movie and Justice League are set in stone, but have production on the Commissioner Gorden series for Fox ready to have at least half a season aired before the next movie.

After that, keep things the way they are until production starts on the Justice League movie. When that's done, list out 4-5 characters who are prominent in those movies and have 1 movie for each set to be made and set to have 2 released each year after the movie does. Have them get a lighter tone as well. People are sick of the gritty superhero movies, give the people what they want.

If it sounds like I'm basically ripping of Marvel's formula, well, it is, but that's because DC just can't compete with its current state within the Time-Warner structure.
 

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If I ran DC, I'd stop trying to sell the world on Superman/Batman. The world is sold on those fellas. I'd love to see a good Wonder Woman movie [Though, the animated one is pretty damn awesome.] But what I think DC should do is launch movies for some of the other heroes they have out there. I want a New Gods Franchise [If you wanna beat Marvel, Get Darkseid out before Thanos] and damn it, nothing... NOTHING would be greater than a Doom Patrol movie.
 

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First: NO BATMAN MOVIES FOR TEN YEARS. Enough already.

I'd greenlight Wonder Woman, Flash, and a GL reboot right away. I'd also reintroduce Amanda Waller (played by someone who actually LOOKS like Amanda Waller (i.e. large)) and the DEO in the Wonder Woman movie, since she's often connected to the government. Flash would feature Mirror Master and/or Captain Cold (I want to work up to the Rogues Gallery in Flash 3). GL would feature Manhunters, and the ending would reveal they were reporting to, say, Steppenwulf. This would lead up to JLA (which would also introduce Aquaman and Cyborg) and the reveal of Darkseid (as a teaser for JLA 2, of course).
 

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TheKasp said:
If I ruled DC I'd kick the guy who decided to kill off Artemis in the very first comic she is introduced in his stupid balls. And then I'd get someone to write her into a series.

Also, if reboots than not stupid ones. Where you still need previous knowledge to follow shit.

Aaand Young Justice season 3.
...now I wanna change my answer to yours.

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I'd put Bruce Timm and Paul Dini at the head of it.
I'd ensure that if they were to do Green Lantern, they'd pretend Hal never existed, and do one of the three good ones. (Guy, Kyle, or John.)
If they were to do Flash, it would be Wally, as he's the one with a personality.
I'd ensure that anyone who utters the word "Gritty" un-ironically would be fired.