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Saetha said:
To be bluntly honest, I would value the opinion (However split) of a community of highly-educated writers and researchers who make a living off of studying and comparing cultures, over one person on the internet.
D'you have any links to share? Expert opinion may well be the most valuable resource we have, but I'd like to know how they reached the conclusions they did, and the structure of any research.

LostCrusader said:
Clearly a true matriarchy would have the only currency be Snu Snu.
That and Hugh Grant movies.
 
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I don't know, let's find out?

Seriously, as much as i find internet based hunt for sexism irritating sometimes, i wouldn't mind switchin majority of world leaders to ones that have vaginas instead.
 

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As far as discrimination goes (e.g. "life is unfair, get used to it") I dont think it would be very different. The question itself shows that women are every bit capable of sexism as men are. Most feminist openly espouse that a society ruled by women would be superior to one ruled by men, or even an egalitarian one.

And lets not forget the brown eyes / blue eyes experiment of Jane Elliot. When the previously discriminated against brown eyed children gained control, they were no less cruel toward the blue eyed children then the blue eyed children were to them the day before. It completely destroys the narrative of the minority saying, "If we were in charge, things would be different. We wouldn't treat you like you do us."
 

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Other than possibility of war every month. God help us if they synchronize.


Would say its a joke but the anger is already coming.
 

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I used to work in a department where the vast majority of managers were female, and there was a staggering amount of favouritism and office politics at work. If you ever complained about the double standards and preferential treatment on display, you'd just get blank looks, followed by the dreaded "bad attitude" label.
 

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Putting my knowledge of female management to use.

There'd be a ton more classical nude paintings of men for one thing. I think there would be more cold wars and proxy wars as apposed to full scale wars.
 

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Gaymaster Nacelle said:
Bobular said:
There'd be a ton more classical nude paintings of men for one thing.
They'd never outdo the Greeks tho
The difference would be in form, the Greeks went with making their art look like young boys where I'd imagine a society with women at the top would focus on grown men, possibly with enormous penises and massive muscles. Well for the most part anyway, male society does have a lot of lolis in artwork.
 

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Bobular said:
Gaymaster Nacelle said:
Bobular said:
There'd be a ton more classical nude paintings of men for one thing.
They'd never outdo the Greeks tho
The difference would be in form, the Greeks went with making their art look like young boys where I'd imagine a society with women at the top would focus on grown men, possibly with enormous penises and massive muscles. Well for the most part anyway, male society does have a lot of lolis in artwork.
Eh, no way to tell, beauty standards aren't just based on gender. Need to get a bunch of matriarchies and see what statues they make.
 

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Thaluikhain said:
Bobular said:
Gaymaster Nacelle said:
Bobular said:
There'd be a ton more classical nude paintings of men for one thing.
They'd never outdo the Greeks tho
The difference would be in form, the Greeks went with making their art look like young boys where I'd imagine a society with women at the top would focus on grown men, possibly with enormous penises and massive muscles. Well for the most part anyway, male society does have a lot of lolis in artwork.
Eh, no way to tell, beauty standards aren't just based on gender. Need to get a bunch of matriarchies and see what statues they make.
I'll see if I can get some rich eccentrics to invest in my latest art project. How much do you think it would cost to take over a couple of small countries and enforce a female leader upon them for a few years until art happens?
 

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Bobular said:
Thaluikhain said:
Bobular said:
Gaymaster Nacelle said:
Bobular said:
There'd be a ton more classical nude paintings of men for one thing.
They'd never outdo the Greeks tho
The difference would be in form, the Greeks went with making their art look like young boys where I'd imagine a society with women at the top would focus on grown men, possibly with enormous penises and massive muscles. Well for the most part anyway, male society does have a lot of lolis in artwork.
Eh, no way to tell, beauty standards aren't just based on gender. Need to get a bunch of matriarchies and see what statues they make.
I'll see if I can get some rich eccentrics to invest in my latest art project. How much do you think it would cost to take over a couple of small countries and enforce a female leader upon them for a few years until art happens?
Wouldn't work, you'd need to completely rewrite a few societies so that women are dominant in all areas, not just the one at the very top. Preferably isolate them from naked statues from outside as well.

OTOH, you can make up whatever you want and nobody can prove you wrong.
 

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Silvanus said:
Saetha said:
To be bluntly honest, I would value the opinion (However split) of a community of highly-educated writers and researchers who make a living off of studying and comparing cultures, over one person on the internet.
D'you have any links to share? Expert opinion may well be the most valuable resource we have, but I'd like to know how they reached the conclusions they did, and the structure of any research.

LostCrusader said:
Clearly a true matriarchy would have the only currency be Snu Snu.
That and Hugh Grant movies.
Like I said, this is all coming from an Intro to Anthropology class I took years ago (With a professor who specialized in ancient Central American and particularly in Mayan cultures, if it's any use.) If I ever had links on the subject, I don't have them anymore.

But if you're an anthropologist, or happen to know one, I'd be happy to see your/their thoughts on the subject.
 

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To discuss the idea of competing concepts encapsulated of "life is unfair, get used to it" versus "life is unfair, so we will make it fair", the former statement is that of fact and the latter is that of intent. Life may be unfair but that does not mean that you cannot game the system to your favour. It is usually spoken in a positive manner in the same spirit as "pull yourself up by the bootstraps". Yes, life is unfair but that just means that you have to be better, stronger and smarter. Naturally it can also be spoken as "I have it good and you don't, tough".

The latter statement is far, far more ominous. How does one go about creating a fair and equal society? Practically every time it has been tried, blood ran on the streets, horrors and atrocities became commonplace and society STILL remained unfair at the end of it. Simply put, those in power will use that power to enrich themselves. Sure there might be the odd virtuous ruler, a Cincinnatus, who refuses to put his power to corrupt use but these are rare. Sure a lot of the time it comes across well as a slogan but it ultimately devolves into force; people who have plenty are usually loathe to give up the vast majority of their holdings for the sake of "equality". When their goods are seized and distributed, some people will end up more equal than others in the distribution. Even if you could create such a society, how do you account for people who possess both drive and talent on one end of the scale and those who are both lazy and useless on the other? Why would both of these individuals be remunerated the same? They might have equal rights, yes, but other than that they should be able to rise or fall on their own merits. The best implementation I have seen of this mindset is the insurance of equal opportunity for all members of society. Something that falls apart quickly due to connections, tutelage from their elders and whatever advantages money can buy.

To attribute this thesis to biological sex. Well, that is making an assertion that sex is a bigger determinant of character than say, culture. To posit that a woman in Russia would have the same mindset and values as one in China, Brazil, Niger, France or Canada (as random examples). That is not a statement I am sure I could fully defend. It assumes that ~50% of humanity basically think the same and while there might be a biological component to behaviour, this assumes that there is no learned component to muddy the waters significantly.
 

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Gaymaster Nacelle said:
Wait a second... if they'd gone through a "minor apocalypse", how could they be more peaceful, according to those same parameters??
Less competition for resources, obviously.

OT: I don't it would have changed that much, people will always resort to violence in times of desperation, no matter their gender, so I hardly buy the narrative that a gynocentric society would be any less violent. They'll be the ones to resort to violence, and they will be the ones to normalize it as well.