If the dino's didn't die

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Fightgarr

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Actually its been speculated that even had a meteor not wiped out a good deal of the species of dinosaurs, they were still not an environmentally resource-conscious species of animal and the larger ones ate more than the environment could survive. They ate themselves to starvation. That's why very small prehistoric animals survived (such as the Tuatara and and the Crocodile family). I.E. They would have died out anyway.
Pushes up non-existant dinosaur glasses.
 

ThaBenMan

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Some people have speculated that they would have evolved into humanoids - dinosaur people, basically



To think what may have come to pass...

 

saxist01

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The sub-order Ornithischia (bird-hipped) dinosaurs evolved into the raptors that we see today: eagles, falcons, emus, chickens. There is no evidence that they would have evolved the intelligence of humans seeing as they went through three cycles of evolution as it was and never got any smarter or dumber. Sonidraw had it talking about environmental pressures, and it would be a mistake, and kind of self-centered, to assume they would follow an evolutionary course similar to humans.
 

iJosh

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Pokemon.

Haha, That was a good one.

If they didn't die, humans wouldn't be here today. That's what I think.
 

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ThaBenMan said:
Some people have speculated that they would have evolved into humanoids - dinosaur people, basically



To think what may have come to pass...

thank god this is a hypothetical thread
 

RyQ_TMC

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I don't think anyone could say. You could probably expect some clades to start putting more effort into brains, and go the way our ancestors went (dealing with environmental pressure by changing the environment) but that's just speculation. Methinks it's just as likely that they'd develop a spacefaring civilization as that they'd just go through cycles of "big-small-big-small" indefinitely... And by "if they didn't die", do you mean no asteroid event, and then standard biology fare - which could conceivably lead to their extinction by less drastic means later - or the hand of a reptilloid deity removing all dangers, thus resulting in lack of evolutionary pressure significant enough to force rapid evolution?
 

Booze Zombie

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The anthropomorphic animal fans would be having a field day or we'd just kill the dinosaurs with our guns anyway.
 

Roamin11

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They wouldn't evolve only refine their killing and grazing methods, if they didn't die out I would have be riding a Albertasauras instead of a motorcycle.
 

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RyQ_TMC said:
I don't think anyone could say. You could probably expect some clades to start putting more effort into brains, and go the way our ancestors went (dealing with environmental pressure by changing the environment) but that's just speculation. Methinks it's just as likely that they'd develop a spacefaring civilization as that they'd just go through cycles of "big-small-big-small" indefinitely... And by "if they didn't die", do you mean no asteroid event, and then standard biology fare - which could conceivably lead to their extinction by less drastic means later - or the hand of a reptilloid deity removing all dangers, thus resulting in lack of evolutionary pressure significant enough to force rapid evolution?
I mean; no asteroid event
 

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Guitar Gamer said:
I mean; no asteroid event
I've heard quite a few times that the asteroid was more of a coup de grace for dinosaurs and they were already faring pretty badly, having evolved into extremely specialized niches and unable to cope with a rapidly changing environment. So I'm guessing, they wouldn't survive to this day, at least not in the familiar "monster" form that we all know and love. But the Earth biosphere wouldn't have gone through the bottleneck that the impact was, so the world would be completely different.

Also, just thought of that - there is this common image that at the times of the dinos, they were pretty much the only group on Earth. Which is far from truth, to put it mildly. So taking the simple "get the dominant group and hypothesise that they'd evolve higher intelligence" is of no use here.
 

Johnnyallstar

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well, if the asteroid never hit then the earth's climate cycle would be different, as winters would not be anywhere near as brutal as they can be for most of the hemisphere experiencing winter. Sadly, no winters to slow them down and force migration, which means that most mammals don't continue on and become the dominant species, which means that quite possibly people wouldn't exist.

Honestly think about it. Physically, we are among the weakest and slowest animals for our size, and if we could not develop mental acuity soon enough, our predecessors would have been little more than bait for the quicker carnivores.

I'm not one who buys into macro-evolution, though.
 

Xrysthos

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Todays climate wouldn't be able to support reptiles the size of dinosaurs, so even if the dinosaurs hadn't been extinct, they would have become smaller, and mammals would be the dominant species. As far as reptiles go, size and average annual temperatures are closely related. This is true for most reptiles, apart from a few huge salamanders somewhere in Japan, that live in cold mountain streams.
 

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Guitar Gamer said:
ThaBenMan said:
Some people have speculated that they would have evolved into humanoids - dinosaur people, basically



To think what may have come to pass...

thank god this is a hypothetical thread
Yeah, that first picture is creepy.

It's what I think would probably happen, though.
 

traceur_

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They would be tamed and used as awesome mounts and awesome beasts of burden.