If this is true... Then... Wow...

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Meanwhile Nintendo is just sitting there making games. Why don't you love them ;_;

 

[Rob Robson]

Meanwhile Nintendo is just sitting there making games. Why don't you love them ;_;

Because their software runs on a combination of Ritz crackers, hopes and promises.

 

[CrystalShadow]

It's microsoft. You're surprised?

This is a company who, during the 90's were known for the phrase Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

They've been compared to the borg, because that's pretty much what they used to do.
If you had a company with a competing product, they'd buy you out.
And... If you refused, they'd crush you in any way possible.

Seriously, microsoft has a long-standing reputation for being evil.
It amazes me more that people have somehow managed to forget that...

I mean, their reputation was so bad when the original Xbox was released, they went out of their way to make the microsoft logos and such as tiny as possible.

Ah well. XD. I guess they've just slipped back into old habits really.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Meanwhile Nintendo is just sitting there making games. Why don't you love them ;_;

Because their software runs on a combination of Ritz crackers, hopes and promises.

Nintendo software is always reliable. But maybe I'm misunderstanding you

The 3DS had a lateish slew of awesome titles so I'm guessing the same will happen for the Wii U. I loved the Pikmin 3 trailer.

 

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Well we already know that the focus of the PS4 is games, unlike the XBone, so I doubt that strategy would have the results MS expects. Also, I doubt MS could pay the devs and publishers enough to go ahead with such a plan.

The stated focus is games; however, there are some things to consider. First, Sony spent a great deal of time talking about features that are, at best tangential to gaming.

True, but at least for them gaming wasn't an afterthought.

Also, importantly, Sony has just as much an interest in being the one box you turn on in your living room as Microsoft does and thus will be just as focused on acquiring and delivering services. You see that attempt at parity right now after all.

I somewhat doubt they want to compete to be a one in all box. They're making a game console. But we'll see.

Additionally, it is unlikely that this generation will see a free online gaming service like the last time around, evidenced by Sony's attempt to offer a compelling reason to pay. This last point isn't a qualitative judgement between XBL and PSN, because the services offered value in different ways. Where Microsoft chose to put everything online behind a pay gate, Sony, having offered everything meaningful in this regard for free, was forced to use value added services like free games.

I don't care either way, as I'm not going to use any online services anyway, but that would be a very bad move by Sony.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe Sony is going to have a consumer friendly used game policy. Indeed their positioning on the subject is, from what is known at this point, largely identical to Microsoft's.

I didn't even talk about that, why bring it up?

Until we know more, I don't think you could declare which system is really friendlier for gaming. As it stands right now, neither platform seems attractive to me but that could easily change with more information.

I agree with you there. I was saying that from what we do know so far.

Captcha: words of wisdom. Whose, though?

 

[Product Placement]

Relevant bit from the article:

"It is not always watching or always listening," the spokesperson explains. "You can turn the system completely off. This would use no power and turn everything off. We'll share more details about how it all works later."

I read that as the only way to turn off the Kinect is to disconnect the Xbox One from the power supply.

I'm pretty sure that in the context of "system", he's referring to the Kinect, not the entire console.

I mean, of course the Kinect isn't gonna be on, if you unplug the Xbone. What is it gonna run on, without any access to electricity? Pixie dust?

 

[Terminate421]

To think, all they have to do is remove the once a day always DRM and used game killing policy and then people will actually want the console.

 

[Deathlyphil]

I read that as the only way to turn off the Kinect is to disconnect the Xbox One from the power supply.

I'm pretty sure that in the context of "system", he's referring to the Kinect, not the entire console.

I mean, of course the Kinect isn't gonna be on, if you unplug the Xbone. What is it gonna run on, without any access to electricity? Pixie dust?[/quote]

Relevant bit from the article:

"It is not always watching or always listening," the spokesperson explains. "You can turn the system completely off. This would use no power and turn everything off. We'll share more details about how it all works later."

I read that as the only way to turn off the Kinect is to disconnect the Xbox One from the power supply.

I'm pretty sure that in the context of "system", he's referring to the Kinect, not the entire console.

I mean, of course the Kinect isn't gonna be on, if you unplug the Xbone. What is it gonna run on, without any access to electricity? Pixie dust?

From what they have been saying, Kinect is a mandatory part of the Xbone. MS have refused to comment on what happens if you disconnect it. From both those statements, I assume that by system, they mean the console and the kinect.

*CAPCHA toodle-oo: exactly what I am going to say to MS if they keep Kinect mandatory.

 

[Atmos Duality]

No amount of cash Microsoft can offer would be worth any of those publishers committing marketing-suicide over.
You don't commit cash to making a game, and porting it only to make it conveniently disappear.

 

[Jadak]

Really not bothered by this..

A company making a game company lacking in games? That sucks.

A company spending money to make their competition look bad? Well, yeah....Duh.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Thread from where this is. [http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576869]

"Two of our most trusted neoGAF insiders have said that Microsoft is reacting hard to what has went down, and so they're going to try to dismantle PS4's image as a "for gamers" console by paying publishers and devs to not show their multiplatform titles during E3 on a PS4. In other words, even if the multiplatform version is coming out for the PS4, they won't be able to show them at E3, thus contributing to the perception that somehow Sony is getting significantly less support for PS4 than Microsoft is "for gamers."

Just Wow Microsoft. Just wow. If what I read is true, Microsoft is going to try to make the PS4 look Barren, by baring PS4 version of Multiplat games from E3. Just... Wow! This is, by far, the worst rumor about them I've heard! This is worst then Always On (Semi-Confirmed), no used games (Still Confused, but it seems like it's true in some sense), and mandatory Kinect (Completely Confirmed), I'm just... Wow!

Funny how people moan about MS and yet no one is moaning at the developers or publishers for taking the money. No one is forcing these game companies to take it, but they will because they are greedy. So lets put the blame (if its true) at greedy devs.

 

[Griffolion]

Yeah I expect nothing less from MS. It's really funny how they have "reacted hard" to the responses from everyone, but instead of working to improve the product, they simply just try and bring public perception of their competitor down to their level. If MS were to react to the criticisms by doing some back pedalling, for the sake of the consumer, nobody would really mind, as it ends up beneficial. This just has no real winners.

Despite this, I would colour it highly unlikely for this to happen. Publishers want to make sure their multi-platform titles are really touted as such, so as to ensure popularity of the game is at its highest for all camps. Then again, with how short term publishers tend to think anyway, maybe they will go for a short-injection of cash now and end up regretting it later on.

 

[Griffolion]

Yeah I expect nothing less from MS. It's really funny how they have "reacted hard" to the responses from everyone, but instead of working to improve the product, they simply just try and bring public perception of their competitor down to their level. If MS were to react to the criticisms by doing some back pedalling, for the sake of the consumer, nobody would really mind, as it ends up beneficial. This just has no real winners.

Despite this, I would colour it highly unlikely for this to happen. Publishers want to make sure their multi-platform titles are really touted as such, so as to ensure popularity of the game is at its highest for all camps. Then again, with how short term publishers tend to think anyway, maybe they will go for a short-injection of cash now and end up regretting it later on.

 

[theultimateend]

Also, what did Ubisoft do to get the title of one of the worst?

They pretty much started the whole always-online DRM thing with Assassin's Creed II on the PC, and have had tenuous PR in relation to the PC crowd -- A year or two back they were pointing fingers everywhere, calling the entire PC demographic a bunch of filthy pirates and saying that 95% of the people who would play their games wouldn't legitimately purchase them.

OT: Wouldn't it be funny if the Xbox One wasn't actually originally intended to be a games console? Obviously that'd be silly of Microsoft, but it would make me laugh and laugh. Of course, I'm going to take this entire rumor with a big fat [Citation Needed] sign until we've got more than a few NeoGAF threads to go on.

Yeah they had been blacklisted by me until they heavily backtracked on most of their bitchery.

I STILL haven't bought a few of their games because they won't take off their nonsensical DRM.

Shit...uplay is unnecessary too :/. I'd much rather my achieves be on Steam (or even GFWL...shudder) than uplay.

To think, all they have to do is remove the once a day always DRM and used game killing policy and then people will actually want the console.

Whoa?! Microsoft has a console coming out?

News to me.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Funny how people moan about MS and yet no one is moaning at the developers or publishers for taking the money. No one is forcing these game companies to take it, but they will because they are greedy. So lets put the blame (if its true) at greedy devs.

If the publishers take the deal, logically, both them and M$ must be at fault.
It makes no sense to just blame one party.

 

[AkatsukiLeader13]

Sounds too stupid even for Microsoft. If they really were trying something like that it shows that either A) they are that desperate, B) they're that stupid to think it would work or C) some combination of A and B.

If they seriously did try something like that at E3 it would probably play out like this...

Sony:

Nintendo:

Fans:

Though to be fair, Microsoft isn't yet at Joffrey-level douchebaggery. Though if this rumor is true it will bring them a fair bit closer.

 

[The Lugz]

as this would generate the biggest backfire in the history of things that could backfire, i recon this is nonsense

and i'm no fan of the xbone right now.

it just makes no business sense to alienate your fans ( as a developer ) by siding with an unpopular name because you will just loose sales from a 'supposedly' more popular system

but it's all fan-think right now, nobody can predict the future.. so it's more likely than not just rampant paranoia

if microsoft really wanted to hurt sony they'd have an easier time just buying all their consoles and converting them into cloud storage boxes, or leaking a hack that lets them play copied games

wait a minuite.. if microsoft bought a playstation for every xbox, and made it into a cloud server... ahhh... NOW i get it.
clever microsoft, veeery clever.

 

[Colt47]

Honestly, I think the Xbox One failing needs to happen, especially with all the potential DRM and always online possibilities the console represents. Otherwise, we'll just keep having more and more restrictions slowly heaped onto console gaming. This is especially true with a US company due to the generational blindness to long term consumer and employee commitment, something that Nintendo and Sony, despite their mistakes, still appear to understand.

Well, at least Nintendo. Sony is still floating in the ether somewhere between a giant fiery pit of fan pitch forks and... according to Captcha "chocolate rain".