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Byere

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Gametek said:
Well, I misspelled what I was writing in an attempt to sound childish... I was saying that, yeah, I played Defiance. No need to remember the final to me. That game simply broke my heart: for the whole game I liked more playing as Raziel than playing as Kain. Kain feel like a... don't know, he feel strangely annoying. At the last boss battle, I turned down the PS because I couldn't believe that my favorit hero just died. Finished the game only because I was wishing that he could just popout back, somehow. You know, he died many time in the LoK francise.

As for the jrpg... I can't stand them. Mind me! I just loved FFIV, FFV, FFVI, FFVII, but I just can't play any other jrpg, expecially the most recent. They seem to fail me somehow, sometime it is because a story that is full of bullshit, sometime because they request me to grind into an impossible quantity. Mind me, I like grinding. But grinding in a game that give me long lasting bonus, like achievement or material for my buddies, not grinding to go on whit the story. Not grinding to go on with the story! Or in exchange, a game with an exponential difficult bar, that go from one to infinite. Even calling this game j"rpg" feel wrong. They maybe as good as you want, but they are absolutely everything that is not rpg. No decision. No roleplay. Only dragon, goblin and castle, that aren't even element that make your game a RPG!

Mind me, I still like Nintendo game, like Zelda, but I have close my heart to any other japanese game long ago. Nintendo is kind of an exception to me. And Capcom megaman, but well, Megaman is not a jrpg.

PS: the spoiler tag is
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Thing about the ending to Defiance is that Raziel didn't die in the end. His physical form was destroyed when Kain cast him into the abyss at the beginning of the first Soul Reaver game. Though the God gave him a body to inhabit, he's always been corporeal, thus why he can switch between the physical and corporeal realms. When Kain impaled him, thinking it was Mobius returned to life, Raziel allowed his twin-souls to combine and inhabit the Soul Reaver sword once more. So, technically, he didn't die, he just inhabits a new "body".

I don't know what you're going on about with the whole grinding thing, but you're not describing Jrpgs, be they old or new. Yes, there are some elements of grinding in some games (take for example in the .Hack// series where you had to split the enemies with the power of your bracelet to get Virus Cores, or more recently in Resonance of Fate where you have to kill certain enemies to get Hex items to drop to help you build the map), but nothing to the level you're talking. Nothing to the point of infinity. You're referring more to games like World of Warcraft where you have to constantly grind in order to level up and collect certain amounts of items to complete quests.
Personally, I don't remember much about Breath of Fire V as I played it through once and sold it off it was so terrible. If that's what you're referring to, then I can totally agree. However, you cannot base ALL games from Japanese companies to be terrible just because a fair few of them are. If you liked games like Final Fantasy (the older ones, as in up to X, not anything after that), then maybe you should look into other older JRPGs like the Suikoden series or the early Wild ARMs games.

Can't blame you on loving the Legend of Zelda games. I know they're all samey and some are pretty crap, but I still love the majority of the games.
 

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Byere said:
Gametek said:
Well, I misspelled what I was writing in an attempt to sound childish... I was saying that, yeah, I played Defiance. No need to remember the final to me. That game simply broke my heart: for the whole game I liked more playing as Raziel than playing as Kain. Kain feel like a... don't know, he feel strangely annoying. At the last boss battle, I turned down the PS because I couldn't believe that my favorit hero just died. Finished the game only because I was wishing that he could just popout back, somehow. You know, he died many time in the LoK francise.

As for the jrpg... I can't stand them. Mind me! I just loved FFIV, FFV, FFVI, FFVII, but I just can't play any other jrpg, expecially the most recent. They seem to fail me somehow, sometime it is because a story that is full of bullshit, sometime because they request me to grind into an impossible quantity. Mind me, I like grinding. But grinding in a game that give me long lasting bonus, like achievement or material for my buddies, not grinding to go on whit the story. Not grinding to go on with the story! Or in exchange, a game with an exponential difficult bar, that go from one to infinite. Even calling this game j"rpg" feel wrong. They maybe as good as you want, but they are absolutely everything that is not rpg. No decision. No roleplay. Only dragon, goblin and castle, that aren't even element that make your game a RPG!

Mind me, I still like Nintendo game, like Zelda, but I have close my heart to any other japanese game long ago. Nintendo is kind of an exception to me. And Capcom megaman, but well, Megaman is not a jrpg.

PS: the spoiler tag is
, without the final s.
Thing about the ending to Defiance is that Raziel didn't die in the end. His physical form was destroyed when Kain cast him into the abyss at the beginning of the first Soul Reaver game. Though the God gave him a body to inhabit, he's always been corporeal, thus why he can switch between the physical and corporeal realms. When Kain impaled him, thinking it was Mobius returned to life, Raziel allowed his twin-souls to combine and inhabit the Soul Reaver sword once more. So, technically, he didn't die, he just inhabits a new "body".

I don't know what you're going on about with the whole grinding thing, but you're not describing Jrpgs, be they old or new. Yes, there are some elements of grinding in some games (take for example in the .Hack// series where you had to split the enemies with the power of your bracelet to get Virus Cores, or more recently in Resonance of Fate where you have to kill certain enemies to get Hex items to drop to help you build the map), but nothing to the level you're talking. Nothing to the point of infinity. You're referring more to games like World of Warcraft where you have to constantly grind in order to level up and collect certain amounts of items to complete quests.
Personally, I don't remember much about Breath of Fire V as I played it through once and sold it off it was so terrible. If that's what you're referring to, then I can totally agree. However, you cannot base ALL games from Japanese companies to be terrible just because a fair few of them are. If you liked games like Final Fantasy (the older ones, as in up to X, not anything after that), then maybe you should look into other older JRPGs like the Suikoden series or the early Wild ARMs games.

Can't blame you on loving the Legend of Zelda games. I know they're all samey and some are pretty crap, but I still love the majority of the games.
Mmmm... let's say the true, never played any nippon icchi game, don't you?
As for the rest, I have only one thing to say: IMO. It's would be stupid, on my side to convince you to not do something that you actually like.

Ps: On the Raziel point, I have to say that, if you are right, I really don't understand all that winnies that kain made about don't won't to fight Raziel... even at the end.
End why we can't have a new LoK, while we are drowned into Lara Croft huge [and dirty] tits....
 

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Rastrelly said:
Hm-hm-hm... Oh, well, which sequels I'd like to see:
* Wizardry 9
* Planescape: Torment 2
* Baldur's Gate 3
* Arcanum 2
* NORMAL C&C sequel (RA4, C&C4*)
* Beyond Good and Evil 2 (hope this one is really in development and won't be closed)
* Morrowind 2 XD
* Dawn of War 3 with mechanics close to original DoW
* Knights of the Old Republic 3
* Doom 4 (^_^)
* Age of Empires 4
* Dune 3000 XD
* Thief 4 (I've heard it's in development but did not see any adequate data on it)
* Fallout 4 ^_^ 2D. Isometric.
* Ground Control 3
* Majesty 3 (and better to whipe out that crap, called "Majesty 2")
* Homeworld 3
* Half-Life 3 (heh)
* HoMM VII back in Erathia
* Dragon Age: Origins 2 (not Dragon Age II, which is good, but much worse then DA:O)
* Discworld 4
* System Shock 3
* Master of Orion IV
* Earth 2170 (MOAR unit design features)
* Alpha Centauri 2
* Dungeon Keeper 3
* Space Quest 7 (if I'm not mistaken)
* Chaos Gate 2
* Tron 2.0 sequel
* Adequate Disciples 4
.... hmmm, that's all if my meroy did not fail. These are the sequels I really want to see :)
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* I know there is C&C4, but I think it should be wiped out of existance
Going to respond in the order they are posted
*Never actually played Wizardry, to my regret. I'll have to go dig out the old cd box that I have all my unplayed games in, the 5th one is in there I think...
*Not going to happen. Perhaps another game in the Planescape, but not another Torment game. The ending is a total end, with no possibility of continue.
*Also not going to happen for similar reasons. Either you become a GOD (which, if you are evil, you would CERTAINLY do... and neutral, probably... and maybe even good. It's godhood, after all) or you destroy a god's portfolio forever. Black Isle is gone anyways, and they are never coming back. Besides, they don't have access to the Forgotten Realms IP anymore, so they would have to release another Dark Alliance game.
*Now THAT would be neat. Arcanum ended similarly to the way the Fallout games end, inviting another game in the same world, but not the same character. Both Trokia and Sierra no longer exist, so I don't know who owns the IP.
*Good god I wish C&C and RA 3 didn't exist... they both brought another unnecessary faction to the field, and did it poorly. RA I will excuse because it has TIM CURRY as a Russian Premier, but other than that...
*Yes. Just.. yes.
*Bah, the whole Elder Scrolls series is boring to me.
*DoW 3 with hybrid mechanics of DoW 1 and 2 would be much better. DoW 1 was unbalanced and dumb, but it was larger scale and used better vehicle units. DoW 2 is more balanced and the use of cover and unit abilities, as well as a much MUCH more real benefit to keeping a squad alive is also nice. I doubt it will happen until they release expansions to add every race to DoW 2. Crons, DE, and Tau have yet to be added.
*As long as Obsidian did everything but the engine. Kotor 1's plot, characters, inter-character development.. It's EVERYTHING is inferior to 2.
*Do you really want to take the risk of another Doom 3?
*I guess? AoE 2 is all anyone really needs. It's the best one they have made.
*The Dune games were just the precursors to C&C, so another one is pointless.
*Another game I haven't played, but I'm not a fan of stealth games.
*I would rather have a Fallout 3... made by Black Isle. Or a finished Van Buren, either way.
*Big fan of tactical games, hmm?
*Yup.
*Lots of strategy games here.
*HO HO HO. HL 2 ep. 3 isn't even out, so HL 3 is probably never going to happen.
*Oh god yes. The Might and Magic series is one of my favs. However, I prefer Lords of Magic.. and Sierra is gone, so that's another IP gone forever.
*Not a fan of DA or ME, so whatever.
*Haha, yes! Sadly the days of adventure games are long gone, and no L.A. Noire can hope to change that.
*Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.
*For the next 3, you might as well wish for a Sins of a Solar Empire 2.
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*If a certain someone can get out of his rut with shitty RPGs and re-obtain his copyright to the series, yes.
*Not going to happen. The time travel bits in the previous games show that it is unlikely to ever happen.
*That would be pretty sweet, as long as I don't have to play as the smurfs again. Hell, IG or Chaos would be my picks instead of boring ass SM.
*Back to LoM, I'd rather have a LoM 2 than any of these other strategy games you suggest. Just personal preference.
 

Byere

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Gametek said:
Mmmm... let's say the true, never played any nippon icchi game, don't you?
As for the rest, I have only one thing to say: IMO. It's would be stupid, on my side to convince you to not do something that you actually like.

Ps: On the Raziel point, I have to say that, if you are right, I really don't understand all that winnies that kain made about don't won't to fight Raziel... even at the end.
End why we can't have a new LoK, while we are drowned into Lara Croft huge [and dirty] tits....
Actually, yes... I have. I love the Disgaea series. But yea, I didn't think of that series when I last replied.

I didn't say we couldn't have another LoK game, that's easily possible. The problem I had was that, following what happened at the end of it all, Raziel wouldn't be the main character. The only way I can see them making a game with Raziel in in and still keeping continuity would be to make it a game from after he was turned by Kain and before he was cast into the whirling pool of damnation at the beginning of Soul Reaver, set before the end of Soul Reaver 2 (where history was altered and Raziel killed his human self)