If you could put two portals anywhere?

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Plazmatic said:
That's not exactly what I was going to point out but oh well. In addition, I wasn't going to say anything along the lines of "portal technology is impossible."

I would say portal technology isn't "impossible" more likely "really really really hard to construct." For one, transmitting matter or light through a portal requires for its information to travel instantaneously across a distance. However, there are postulates centering around "quantum entanglement" that deal with simultaneous events, with one causing the other. For two, if you place two portals on the ceiling and the floor, the gravitational field lines coming from mass no longer have another mass to terminate at, which currently disobeys our understanding of the divergence of gravitational fields. However, we don't know everything about mass and gravity. I once read a good quote that said "if an apple were to fall up at least once, then we would have to completely rewrite our understanding of gravity."
 

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Outright Villainy said:
NightlyNews said:
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Well, being pragmatic, I'd put one extremely high up, then one directly beneath it at ground level. Now, by breaking the laws of energy conservation, we have infinite potential energy, and shall build generators around it.

[sub]Problem, entropy?[/sub]
Entropy wouldn't be a problem with the perpetual motion device itself. But, if you keep adding more and more energy to the universe it will increase the speed at which we reach heat death.

See portals bring Armageddon I knew valve was evil.
But entropy increases for all closed systems, and in this system where gravitational potential is a constant, useable kinetic energy is just coming out of nowhere, decreasing entropy for that system. So I very much think entropy would have a problem with it.

Because it's more than just perpetual motion, it's increasing motion, and the energy that goes with it.
Meh what I said was technically wrong (depending on the amount of energy the device gives off). But, it's not defying entropy in any way. It's merely introducing new energy to the system, that once introduced spreads according to the laws of entropy. Individual cases of defying entropy exist and are normal. It's just that they are governed by statistical facts that they will never be significant enough to reverse entropy on the whole.

As long as the perpetual motion device wasn't giving off SHITTONS of energy the earth as a whole would still obey entropy. Although on the really small scale around the device it would be reverse entropic or something. I don't know I'm kinda talking out my ass, but I know for a fact there are exceptions to entropy at the micro level. If there were exceptions at the macro level as long as they weren't rampant it wouldn't effect the entropy of the universe as a whole in any significant way.
 

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Outright Villainy said:
Well, being pragmatic, I'd put one extremely high up, then one directly beneath it at ground level. Now, by breaking the laws of energy conservation, we have infinite potential energy, and shall build generators around it.

[sub]Problem, entropy?[/sub]
The thing is, portals break the laws of much more.
 

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Outright Villainy said:
NightlyNews said:
Outright Villainy said:
Well, being pragmatic, I'd put one extremely high up, then one directly beneath it at ground level. Now, by breaking the laws of energy conservation, we have infinite potential energy, and shall build generators around it.

[sub]Problem, entropy?[/sub]
Entropy wouldn't be a problem with the perpetual motion device itself. But, if you keep adding more and more energy to the universe it will increase the speed at which we reach heat death.

See portals bring Armageddon I knew valve was evil.
But entropy increases for all closed systems, and in this system where gravitational potential is a constant, useable kinetic energy is just coming out of nowhere, decreasing entropy for that system. So I very much think entropy would have a problem with it.

Because it's more than just perpetual motion, it's increasing motion, and the energy that goes with it.
Not to mention that the power output would be tiny. It may run forever, but if its only going to produce a few kilowatts, then it won't be solving the energy crisis any time soon.
 

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One in the WBC main entrance and another on the outside of the space station. Or maybe on the moon, if I can swing it.


But for more pratical ness, no where, because that means that anyone can use them, and if I were to place them somwhere like my room, then someone could enter my room that much easier.
 

Ultress

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Between my school and my parents house, preferably being able to fit a car through it. Good bye 45 minute drive.
 

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My room <-> Girlfriend's
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Just to stop it being low content I first contemplated putting the second one in the fridge for a split second.
Wouldn't all the food go warm?
Nah, I think the fridge would break first because it's working overtime, but good point sir!
 

Outright Villainy

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Melon Hunter said:
Outright Villainy said:
NightlyNews said:
Outright Villainy said:
Well, being pragmatic, I'd put one extremely high up, then one directly beneath it at ground level. Now, by breaking the laws of energy conservation, we have infinite potential energy, and shall build generators around it.

[sub]Problem, entropy?[/sub]
Entropy wouldn't be a problem with the perpetual motion device itself. But, if you keep adding more and more energy to the universe it will increase the speed at which we reach heat death.

See portals bring Armageddon I knew valve was evil.
But entropy increases for all closed systems, and in this system where gravitational potential is a constant, useable kinetic energy is just coming out of nowhere, decreasing entropy for that system. So I very much think entropy would have a problem with it.

Because it's more than just perpetual motion, it's increasing motion, and the energy that goes with it.
Not to mention that the power output would be tiny. It may run forever, but if its only going to produce a few kilowatts, then it won't be solving the energy crisis any time soon.
Oh, I don't doubt that. I just want to spit in the face of physics. :D
 

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Rydlock said:
So.. if you could place a blue and orange portal anywhere, where would it be?

For me i think it would be something simple like one at home and one at work. Makes my 2 minute walk to work that much easier ha i am lazy.

sorry if this is a repost of a topic

Rydlock
One on the train track and one across from your front door.
 

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hmmmm, i'd rather be abel to carry the gun around and, with some sturdy fall boots, catterpault myself to work everyday.

Flying seems a lot more fun than just stepping through a portal. =P