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The Heik said:
captnb2thep said:
It isn't perfect, I still think Smash Bros Melee is a better game, (I enjoy All Stars better than Brawl though), and I don't think anyone can ever expect any company to build a roster of better characters than the great Nintendo has over the years (except if Disney did a mascot brawler, THAT would be interesting haha) but don't judge it on those merits. Judge it on how fun it is to play.
I kind of find it funny that right before this you spent a good deal of this post talking about the characters, because WHO the characters are is about as important as the colour of their areolas. They could each be a randomly coloured blob and so long as they played differently and smoothly it wouldn't matter in the slightest in terms of how fun the gameplay is.

Speaking of gameplay, I'm underwhelmed with All Stars. While I'm not generally fan of fighters (I love me some story) I can still play and enjoy them them, and All Stars does not hold up to standard. It mainly comes down to two major problems.

First, while the basic attacks are decent in execution, unfortunately the only way to knock out a character is to get your character's ulti, making most of the match equal to who grinds to their ulti first. And IF you somehow manage to miss with with your ulti, you have to grind all over again to just get another crack at bringing the match to a conclusion. That takes away a lot of the flow and pacing that most fighting games are built upon, and when a fighting game experience starts to feel like World of Warcraft, something has gone very, very wrong.

Second is the fact the the ultis are very much overpowered (though seeing as it's the only way to get a kill I'm not mystified as to why). A single clip from most ultis simply makes opponents die with no regard to how long they've been in the fight since last spawn or how much damage they've taken. Once certain characters ulti it is very possible for them to just "spawn camp" (for lack of a better term) their opponents and net several lives in the process. One match between two of my classmates had Dante's ulti kill the other opponent's Jak 3 times in the duration of it, effectively ignoring the mini-invincibiity a new spawn garnered because it lasts so little in comparison to the ulti. Now in most fighting games an ulti certainly gives you an edge, but it still needs to be timed right and even then just spamming it against a newly spawned or swapped character is unlikely to net you a kill. It takes the right moment to use it, and it should not be a necessity in finishing the match.

Overall I feel the game is drastically missing the point of how fighting games are fundamentally supposed to function. The fights should be about who plays their character and the situation better, who uses the environment and combos to their maximal effect. A fighting game should not be a button mashing extravagance to see who gets God's SMITE button first. I personally would not recommend it to my friends, and I really do consider it a knock off to most of the big name fighting games. Most of what it does is just like other fighters, and what little it does different is actually worse than the conventional methods. You'd get more money's worth from any other major fighter, and considering most of the latest versions have already been out for a bit, you'll probably get them at a better price to boot.
You are able to kill other characters with basic moves and its possible. I've done it. Also, if you grapple a character then you can knock off AP from the gauge with the right thumb stick. Dante's level 3 is okay and assuming you can pull it off flawlessly it does rack up the kills. Also, Dante has a really bad AP generation if he is stuck on one person. Most of Dante's moves require a constant combo on two or more players for it to be effective.

I'm sure a patch is in the works. The 2V2 ranked season is ending soon.
 

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daveman247 said:
I like it ^_^

except for a few broken/ OP characters (sackboy, kratos and cole)
broken or over powered?
captnb2thep said:
One thing I will say about it is when it comes to presentation it is ass. The menus are boring, the story cutscenes are still-photo slideshows with dialogue over them, and there is a lot of stuff to do when it comes to challenges and stuff like that but there is not really a point because all the characters, stages, and items are available from the jump, but you can do them to get minions, costume customization options, character intro animations, trophies, badges stuff like that.
I'm actually a little thankful I didn;t have to suffer through some convoluted plot like in smash bros

though their attemps at context felt a bit lazy....I mean BIG CRYSTAL HEAD then he's gone..never really explained but whatever
 

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The Heik said:
I've only completed arcade mode once on normal difficulty

but I found that I could just back my enemy into a corner and spam them with quick attacks untill my meter filled up..them take them out BAM I win (using the chick from heavanly sword)

would you say this happns often? with other charachters as well?
 

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I tried the demo/beta thing they did, it was underwhelming and it DID feel like a brawl knockoff and not in a good way either.



I'm just much more enamored with things like...this:





I just can't really take it seriously and it's ceases to be fun very quickly cause it's compared to epic deep games like Blazblue! :p
 

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Times like these I wish I had a PS3. I don't and my friends that have both a PS3 and All Stars each only have one controller. One day I might be able to play it. One day.
 

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Vanbael said:
I'm very pleased with it, and I hope for DLC characters in the future. And I am kind of surprised with the crossovers for each of the stages (i.e. Doll Face invading Colombia).
I was playing a match and OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT GUYS LOOK!!! LOOK!! WHAT IS IT!?? I was absolutly distracted/mesmerised by that....thing
 

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TehCookie said:
It has some kiddie characters and some dark gritty characters and doesn't have a consistent tone. Not to mention half the characters are so unappealing they made me not want to play the original games they were in.
and in brawl you had snake fighting yoshi.....I think "tone" and "context" go out the window in a game like this...its not the point
 

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I had fun once. It was awful.
But meh, not my sort of thing. Besides, not had my PS3 on since the whole PSN going down fiasco.
 

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Iwata said:
See, I feel the exact opposite way. SSB seems fun, but the characters don't appeal to me. In this one, however, I DO like the characters, and that gives me an incentive to play it.
I think I actually like new dante..better nathan drake
 

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I like having fun. But I don't like fighting games, nor do I like multiplayer.
That one time I had fun was awful anyway.
 

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I played the beta, and had a blast. So as soon as I have the money for it, I'm getting Battle Royale.

Unlike Smash Bros., it feels more intense and competitive. The fighting just feels goooooood. I love Smash Bros. and everything, but... it kind of sucks, let's be honest. Also, because the only way to get a kill is with Supers, it puts new players and old veterans on equal-ish ground.

And, if nothing else, it's good that PSASBR exists. It gives SSB some sort of competition, (yeah, I know they're different consoles, but still) so maybe it'll step up its game instead of saying, "Well, we're the only choice. So we can pull whatever shit we want [http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Prat_Falling]."
 

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Vault101 said:
Aye, sackboys lvl 3 power move is waaaaay overpowered.
Kratos' flail things have too much reach
Cole can easily spam ranged attacks and use his boosty fly thing to get about the level very quickly.
 

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Vanbael said:
I'm very pleased with it, and I hope for DLC characters in the future. And I am kind of surprised with the crossovers for each of the stages (i.e. Doll Face invading Colombia).
AHHH thats what it was! XD I knew i had seen it before but couldnt quite remember. Twisted metal had some..... twisted characters.
 

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Vault101 said:
TehCookie said:
It has some kiddie characters and some dark gritty characters and doesn't have a consistent tone. Not to mention half the characters are so unappealing they made me not want to play the original games they were in.
and in brawl you had snake fighting yoshi.....I think "tone" and "context" go out the window in a game like this...its not the point
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I thought Snake felt out of place in that game too. At least Smash Bros characters have a similar cartoon aesthetic (even human ones like Link) and is bright and colorful. Sony has the gritty characters and cartoon classics and tried to meet somewhere halfway where it just doesn't look right to me.
 

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Vault101 said:
The Heik said:
I've only completed arcade mode once on normal difficulty

but I found that I could just back my enemy into a corner and spam them with quick attacks untill my meter filled up..them take them out BAM I win (using the chick from heavanly sword)

would you say this happns often? with other charachters as well?
A few characters at least, though most of my matches were in vs. with other players (as such they required a little bit of social etiquette, so no spamming 'n such), so I wouldn't be able to say whether or not all characters could do it.

However, the fact that you could win the entire mode just by stun-locking your opponents showing the the game designers really didn't think the mechanics through
 

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I bought it. So far I've played it... once. It's fun, don't get me wrong, but it has yet to hook me the way Smash Bros. has, and Smash Bros. hooked me from the moment I played the N64 original. Will give it more time once the holidays roll around and I've got some more free time when I'm not playing Wii U.
 

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I picked it up the other day on PSN for my PS3 and Vita and holy crap the game is so much better than the BETA.
Which felt clunky and stiff its much more fluid and its a hell of a blast.
The only major thing I dislike is the missed opportunity for an awesome story mode where the characters interact with one another more but other than that the game has solid gameplay and awesome levels.
 

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captnb2thep said:
There are mixed feelings EVERYWHERE about this game, and I was skeptical too. Super Smash Bros. Melee is one of my absolute favorite games of all time when it comes to pure unadulterated fun with friends. But this game is VERY different and a complete blast to play. The more I play it, the more I WANT to play it. I think it offers more depth and competitiveness than Smash Bros does down the line because the no ring-out, only KOs aspect allows for more strategy since it REALLY cuts down on the possibility of cheap kills. The fighters are all very balanced, the 4-Player free-for-alls are very fun, but I LOVE the 1v1 and I think it is very underrated. If you are playing with a skilled player, one-on-one battles can be intense and rewarding, and I've already had a 3 stock 1v1 match that lasted over 15 minutes of an intense, I-dodge-your-super-you-dodge-mine battle of wits to try and gain the upper-hand.

People have two big insults they give this game before even trying it. "ITS A SMASH BROS KNOCKOFF!" The ONLY similarity is that they are both 4 player mascot brawlers, but other than that they PLAY completely differently. Besides, if a game IS like Smash Bros, is that a bad thing?
Also, the other insult they say is "most of the characters aren't even Sony exclusive anyway! Get your own characters Sony!"
Well just to put that argument to rest here is a COMPLETE roster list and I am counting 16 out of 20 (or 15 out of 19 because of two coles) that are 100% exclusive to Sony games OR owned by Sony Computer Entertainment*

Evil Cole
Good Cole
Nathan Drake
Colonel Radec (Killzone)
Fat Princess
Jak and Daxter
Ratchet and Clank
Sly Cooper
Kratos
Sackboy
Sweet Tooth* (Twisted Metal 2 had a watered down PC port, but Sony owns Twisted Metal)
Toro Inue
Spike (Ape Escape)
Nariko
Parappa The Rapper
Sir Daniel Fortesque (MediEvil)

First DLC Characters (free for a week after they are released):
Emmett Graves from Starhawk
Kat from Gravity Rush

The multiplatform/third party characters are:
Heihachi Mishima
Big Daddy
Dante
Raiden from Metal Gear

Bottom line, if you are even a LITTLE bit intrigued or curious about this game, and you have a PS3, GIVE IT A TRY. Rent it, go over to a friends house to play it, go to walmart and try it out, whatever you have to do, but try it for at least an hour, with multiple characters, and if you DON'T have a blast after you get the hang of it, then don't give it another look. But please don't just brush it off due to skepticism, I just think it is the most unjustifiably misunderstood game this year and I feel like people are going to miss out because they are stuck in a mindframe that it is something it isnt. It isn't perfect, I still think Smash Bros Melee is a better game, (I enjoy All Stars better than Brawl though), and I don't think anyone can ever expect any company to build a roster of better characters than the great Nintendo has over the years (except if Disney did a mascot brawler, THAT would be interesting haha) but don't judge it on those merits. Judge it on how fun it is to play.
My desire to play it died after seeing this...


The most epic clash of Dave Jaffe's characters reduced to fighting over an ice cream cone.

I understand it's suppose to be a joke... But come on, that's such a let down. Fuck this game.