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Rolling Thunder

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Easykill post=18.74268.833279 said:
John, I respect you, and it can be very entertaining to read your twisted ideas, but you really are, as I occasionally forget, Twisted. I can only hope we never see your Utopia.
And I sincerely hope we never see yours. The idea of an anarchistic state....ugh.
By the way, have you read Ursula Le. Guin's (Can't remember) and Robert Sheckley's The status civilisation?
 

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JMeganSnow post=18.74268.827991 said:
Repeal about 99.9% of existing legislation and close down all government departments except the courts, the military, and the police. I'd also get rid of taxes and have the government finance itself through one of several voluntary schemes such as a lottery or charging to have contracts notarized.

I would then amend the constitution to make any other method of government operation (including changing the constitution) illegal and retire, because I hate being the boss.
Someone (can't remember who) proposed that Congress should spend one day out of five debating and voting on existing laws. That makes SO much sense.

I would: Implement the Fair Tax;
Nuke all other taxes;
Close the Department of Education (which grows inversely with test scores);
Require all departments except defense to make 10% cuts and thereafter freeze spending for five years;
End lifetime appointments for all federal judgeships - twelve years ought to be enough for anyone;
Implement loser pays on all lawsuits;
Implement a test on all present and future laws that everything is legal as long as it is not in public and no one else's freedom or property is infringed;
Legalize drugs but add a mandatory ten year consecutive sentence if you commit a felony under the influence of drugs or sell them to minors;
Reinstate the regulations dividing the banking industry;
Prohibit paying bonuses if the company owes money;
Requiring bonuses to be paid back with a 25% penalty if earnings are later re-stated to levels that wouldn't pay them;
Start drastically reducing troops in Iraq (let's face it, that one is won) and starting a huge effort in Afghanistan;
Start removing troops from all foreign countries - if you need help, ask your neighbors first;
Implement a 25% tariff on all imported goods;
Get the US out of the United Nations and the United Nations out of the US;
Immediately clear drilling in the portion of ANWR set aside for energy exploration as well as off-shore;
For all energy leases, set up a worst case scenario for an oil spill, explosion, fire, etc. and require that the company set up an interest bearing escrow account for twice the projected cost, with any such occurrence being billed at 100% costs plus 100% fine, non-negotiable, as a condition of the energy lease;
Begin funding two thousand basic research projects and a thousand test projects on alternative energy, with the caveats that no regular or contract employee, consultant, lobbyist, or major stockholder may be related to anyone in the federal government in elected or directly appointed positions, including staff, AND that no existing energy company is eligible (if there is a new liquid fuel from ExxonMobile, it will cost at least as much as oil or they won't produce it - that's how business works);
Replace all foreign aid payments with payment in kind - you can't have dollars to buy Chinese or French phone systems, but if we like you enough we will give you American-made phone systems;
Implement a single-payer health care system with no legal right to sue - if your doctor screwed up that badly, he needs to be investigated, not buy you a condo. (Although I'm a free market kinda guy it's going to happen anyway. The government already spends 47% of every health care dollar, and there's nothing in the middle of the road but moderates and dead skunks.)
Seal the borders against all immigration for three years;
Require all illegal aliens to register within one year. If you have committed any felonies while here, you are immediately deported after serving your sentence. You can appeal from your home country on your dime. If you have children born in America, take'em with or decide who's going to raise them. (For that matter, clarify that only those born to mothers legally in the USA are automatically citizens. If the Rockefeller's maid has a child at work, that doesn't automatically put her in the will.) Those who have not committed any felonies in the USA can either choose to leave and apply for citizenship, or choose to stay here legally with a green card but cannot become citizens for an additional ten years. All illegal aliens would have to pay all back taxes with interest and penalties.

I have not planned my second month in office, because I'm pretty sure I'll be dead or overthrown by then.
 

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Well I'm jumping on the Werepossum '12 campaign right now: a mostly very appealing platform.
 

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Saskwach post=18.74268.833786 said:
Well I'm jumping on the Werepossum '12 campaign right now: a mostly very appealing platform.
Especially considering that I'm sick and have worked all night.
 

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On the premise that I have supreme and autocratic control of the Netherlands:

-I'd abolish the Theoretically Limitless Amount of Political Party-system and replace it with a Three Party System, with a Leftish, Right-Wing and Central Party. I myself would be part of the Central Party.

-I'd abolish Provincial Government and limit the autonomous character of munincipality government. Basically I'd centralize government. In order for a state to run efficient, government has to be streamlined. An overarching Central government and Left/Right wing munincipalities doesn't work.

-I'd definately abolish the New Learning for schools. The Old Learning (classical forms of education, that is) worked perfectly well. Don't fix what isn't broken. Reforms only work when they're lasting, not when they're changed every four years.

-I'd use the Dutch veto to blow up the current course the European Union. All succesful economical and political measures and agreements of the past were based on mutual self-interest, not on forced co-operation based on a non-existing unity. The EU started as an economical union to further the interests of industrialized Western Europe. It should remain like that. Eastern Europe can go to Hell for all I care. They have too little to offer the rest.

-Financial aid to developing countries should be based on mutual self-interest. They want our technology and money, we want their natural resources. They can try to escape our Neo-Imperialist clutches when they have catched up when they have consolidated their own societies. No need to dump money into backward, uncivilized cultures if we don't get benefits from it.

-I will remove Dutch troops from Afghanistan. The mission there is straining resources, and I could not care less about Afghanistan. We gain nothing, but it is costing us dearly. Let others who started the mess there solve it. They can burn their money for all I care.

-I'll refocus the Dutch economy to be based on trade and financial services. Industry will remain important, but the Netherlands are just too small to sustain a powerful heavy industry. I will also stop subsidizing the Dutch agriculture. Like industry, the Netherlands are just too small to sustain efficient agriculture. Importing food will create a certain dependence, but the money currently thrown away for subsidies will make up for it.

-A streamlined, efficient social security that supports the weak of society and stimulates the talented will remain. In order for The State to function, it must remain dynamic. Small elites will prevend me from tapping the nation's full resources. Social security (including education for all) might strain finances, but if it means financing that own prodigy who's born in the lowest echelons in society so that we can benefit from his prowess, I will be prepared to make that offer.

-Religion will be made subordinate to the State, and banished from all aspects. This means that all political parties, schools and other organizations with a clear religious identity will be banned. Religion is ultimately backward. If people want to believe, they can do it in their own homes.

-In order to finance this all, the rich will be taxed heavier (but not excessively heavier) than the poor. First of all, you can't pluck feathers from a bald chicken. Secondly, the rich traditionally dominate all aspects of political and cultural life. If they want these privileges, they must be willing to pay for them. If they want no influence, they might as well be poor humbugs.

-Worldwide opinion be damned. Our system in dealing with drugs is the most effective. It will remain so. "Magic Mushrooms" will not be banned. Or well, they'll be illegal for foreigners, especially the French. Coffeeshops will remain in function as well.

-I'll bring Americans before the International Court in the Hague. Their warcrimes are not different from the crimes of others. I don't give a damn about their law that Americans can not be tried by the International Court.

And, finally:

I will crush all opposition.
 

Easykill

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Fondant post=18.74268.833614 said:
Easykill post=18.74268.833279 said:
John, I respect you, and it can be very entertaining to read your twisted ideas, but you really are, as I occasionally forget, Twisted. I can only hope we never see your Utopia.
And I sincerely hope we never see yours. The idea of an anarchistic state....ugh.
By the way, have you read Ursula Le. Guin's (Can't remember) and Robert Sheckley's The status civilisation?
Eh, the amount of freedom one thinks is reasonable to give to the populace is directly related to their faith in humanity. And mine just won't die. I can't see a society of educated, informed individuals falling apart simply because they no longer have that safety net of specialization that is government. So, educate everyone. Anarchy does not necessarily mean chaos, it means freedom, the same way government does not necessarily mean oppression, it means safety and regularity. The system I proposed was something I thought might work to let people decide based on their own values the way they want to live.

And no, I can't say I've heard of it, but I did a search and it's a free book on the internet. Should I?

Werepossum; I still support you for president, but don't you think us Canadians are getting screwed over enough by NAFTA already? The tariff is too much.
 

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I'm Loving these posts...

Ok, Most members of Escapist forums [Only the smart ones, well, the ones that realise 'u' doesn't work as a substitute for 'you' and so on] shall be the new leaders of the world! BUT!! In secret, like.. Make obama/mccain our puppets! :D Secret-shadow governments are fun.
 

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s-l-u-g post=18.74268.834168 said:
I'm Loving these posts...

Ok, Most members of Escapist forums [Only the smart ones, well, the ones that realise 'u' doesn't work as a substitute for 'you' and so on] shall be the new leaders of the world! BUT!! In secret, like.. Make obama/mccain our puppets! :D Secret-shadow governments are fun.
*Gasps* Does this mean I can have Cthulhu day made into a real holiday that I can get off from work?
 

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Saskwach post=18.74268.833786 said:
Well I'm jumping on the Werepossum '12 campaign right now: a mostly very appealing platform.
Wait.. Wait... You're betraying Cthulu? You?
 

s-l-u-g

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dalek sec post=18.74268.834189 said:
s-l-u-g post=18.74268.834168 said:
I'm Loving these posts...

Ok, Most members of Escapist forums [Only the smart ones, well, the ones that realise 'u' doesn't work as a substitute for 'you' and so on] shall be the new leaders of the world! BUT!! In secret, like.. Make obama/mccain our puppets! :D Secret-shadow governments are fun.
*Gasps* Does this mean I can have Cthulhu day made into a real holiday that I can get off from work?
Yes.
But let us mark "the death of aerith day".. and uhm.. "colossi mourning hour".
Some deaths happen and it makes you sad... ;[ except aerith. i hated her.
 

John Galt

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Easykill post=18.74268.833279 said:
John Galt post=18.74268.833027 said:
1. Nationalize the fuck out of industries deemed necessary for the survival of my nation. Put a set of cronies in charge. Establish secret police to watch and control said cronies.
2. Bring back corporal punishment along with Fondant's ideas on justice. Possibly televised executions or even gladiator fights
3. Create a strong national pride through rallies, propaganda, and other media-outlets. Make a point to eliminate racial/religious differences. Nationality will become the new standard of division.
4.Alter educational curriculum to include my nationalist views. Use education system to emphasize technical knowledge over to liberal arts. Hardly anything taught in most schools will help later on.
5. Tax religious property and make sure that their teachings don't delve into anti-American sentiments.
6. Monitor immigration tightly in order to take only those able to actively contribute economically.
7. Pull military out of foreign nations. Eliminate foreign aid. Prepare for possible annexation of Mexico or Canada.
8. Use Keynesian policies in order to slowly steer the US economy towards autarky.
9. Fund a massive nuclear energy expansion in order to secure energy independence.
10. Revert to a streamlined, one party system in order to trim out most of the bureaucracy.
John, I respect you, and it can be very entertaining to read your twisted ideas, but you really are, as I occasionally forget, Twisted. I can only hope we never see your Utopia.
11. Send all dissenters to an origami-folding work camp. Easykill, I've got a stack of 8 1/2 by 11s with your name on it.

Also, Fondant we should make our own political ticket.

Fondant-Galt '12. Because we're mad as Hell and we're not gonna take it anymore!
 

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John Galt post=18.74268.834320 said:
Easykill post=18.74268.833279 said:
John Galt post=18.74268.833027 said:
1. Nationalize the fuck out of industries deemed necessary for the survival of my nation. Put a set of cronies in charge. Establish secret police to watch and control said cronies.
2. Bring back corporal punishment along with Fondant's ideas on justice. Possibly televised executions or even gladiator fights
3. Create a strong national pride through rallies, propaganda, and other media-outlets. Make a point to eliminate racial/religious differences. Nationality will become the new standard of division.
4.Alter educational curriculum to include my nationalist views. Use education system to emphasize technical knowledge over to liberal arts. Hardly anything taught in most schools will help later on.
5. Tax religious property and make sure that their teachings don't delve into anti-American sentiments.
6. Monitor immigration tightly in order to take only those able to actively contribute economically.
7. Pull military out of foreign nations. Eliminate foreign aid. Prepare for possible annexation of Mexico or Canada.
8. Use Keynesian policies in order to slowly steer the US economy towards autarky.
9. Fund a massive nuclear energy expansion in order to secure energy independence.
10. Revert to a streamlined, one party system in order to trim out most of the bureaucracy.
John, I respect you, and it can be very entertaining to read your twisted ideas, but you really are, as I occasionally forget, Twisted. I can only hope we never see your Utopia.
11. Send all dissenters to an origami-folding work camp. Easykill, I've got a stack of 8 1/2 by 11s with your name on it.
Who says you can't make nukes out of origami? We shall overthrow you with the power of freedom. Freedom from the laws of reality!

By the way, what's your stance on the internet? Will you kill Anonymous with your own hands to aid your own rise to power?
 

Eldritch Warlord

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I'd be like God Emperor Leto II.

A lot of people would be very angry at my draconian totalitarian dictatorship but its all for the best.

Basically I'd wield my unlimited power to continue having my unlimited power and solve all the worlds real problems. Then when I think I'm done I'll establish a logical, brilliantly balanced, minimally bureaucratic world government.
 

Rolling Thunder

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Fondant-Galt '12. Because we're mad as Hell and we're not gonna take it anymore!

Agreed. We can duel for who get's what job once we've won. Sabres, pistols or armoured corps?


Place a speaker's corner in every major city, so the voices of dissent canbe heard. And written down. And dragged away, brutally tortured and exectuted by porcupine if neccesary. and I have a broad definition of 'neccesary'.
 

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Fondant post=18.74268.833614 said:
Easykill post=18.74268.833279 said:
John, I respect you, and it can be very entertaining to read your twisted ideas, but you really are, as I occasionally forget, Twisted. I can only hope we never see your Utopia.
And I sincerely hope we never see yours. The idea of an anarchistic state....ugh.
By the way, have you read Ursula Le. Guin's (Can't remember) and Robert Sheckley's The status civilisation?
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Not anarchy. Simply a place without organized government. The law still exists, but the bureaucratic leeches who manipulate it for their own gain are disposed of. Think socialism without the system.
 

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Moon Base: it's coming baby!

Moon laser: Why do you think we built the base there?

Destroy Germany: Well, the giant laser might get a couple of the surrounding countries as well, but a bit of collateral damage is to be expected.

Giant Robots: Fight the war on terror the best way, with giant robots!

Giant Tanks: We are in ur citiez, running over ur homez.
 

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Some how have an alien invasion and when they start landing and all is lost I'll launch every fucking nuke this planet had at there ships.

My geeky situation number 1