If your country was invaded.....

[Canid117]

Would I resist?

yes

 

[zombiestrangler]

Depends. If it was an eastern Asian country, I'd fight to the death because they don't fuck around. Middle Eastern, throw bacon and grenades at them. European or Canadian,I would turn traitor so fast.

This was the cherry on top of my perfect day, thanks.

Which part? I personally prefer the bacon comment.

 

[major28]

well first id find all the "gun" kids at my school who are always saying that they'd form a rebellion and be tell them i knew that they were full of shit then i'd go home and watch tv

 

[jdun]

Well...you are talking about quite some time in the future there. No way of saying what things would be like then. If China developed the logistical capabilities to go a conquering and if it'd chewed its way through most of South East Asia, then yes, Australia might well be next...two big ifs though. And any number of powerful groups are going to see that happenign well in advance.

Personally, though, I'm getting a bit tired of China being seen as the next big baddie...it seems just as likely to me that we'll be on their side in the next major war.

China does not have Navy. That alone will limit how they wage wars. As a rule of thumb ships are the primary way to carry supplies from your own country to the country that you're invading.

Being a big military does not mean an effective force. It means that you got more people to feed and resupply. The US military have a very small combat force with a large logistical support force. IIRC it take 10 US military personnel to support one combat troop. Unless you sign up for a combat unit chances are you'll stuck as a truck driver, repair man (airplane, tanks, cars, trucks, ship, arms, etc), cook, paper pusher, nurse, doctor, communication, military police, bomb loader, computer guy, intel guy, etc.

The USA is very good at logistics because we have centenaries of experience invading other countries. We also have the world strongest and largest Navy. That help a lot when moving large quantity of supplies.

 

[Nouw]

I have Korean Citizenship so I'm fine! Hopefully...
[sub]Live in NZ, who would invade us?[/sub]

 

[emeraldrafael]

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I would hope I do, I live in America, close to a city where gang violence is rather something we try to watch out for. SO I think you're underr estimating the hate that these groups have for each other and the excuse of law no longer in effect to stop them. This is also talking about those that would pick on the "weak". The sense of AMerican Patriotism is rather low.

Finally, I think you're missing the point of the scenario, which is:

After seeing all these ________ invades America games like Homefront and MW2, I started wondering about this. If your country was invaded a foreign army and were losing, would you resist the invaders?
...
How zealous would you be in defending your country against a foreign army?

The bolded part being the most important.

And actually, lets go with this. You're saying that because American Citizenss have better weaponry then the Army, but not hte training, they'll succeed more then the Army. Well, lets see. The by and large is that a small portion of Americans have that kinda weaponry. Fewer know how to use it if they're not taught by the owners. Most Americans dont know how to use a weapon properly, and only would do what they see in games or movies. And they're supposed to stand against an Army with the training like, say.. Israel? Or Russia? Or against the Man power that is China (yeah, you can make all the jokes you want about how china has over a billion people but only about one of ten will have a quality gun, but still)?

ALso, that number is based of registered weapons. Most Gang members dont carry them, and most pack a sufficient heat since they turn cars into swiss cheese in drive bys.

you seem to be thinking that we americans are unified, and that the enemy is just getting of the boat and onto land. That our army is still standing and ready,a nd that the citizens are all sufficiently trained and all have a weapon and are all masters. Really, what the situation calls for that Americans are in small Guerrilla parties, on the run and severely outnumbered, out gunned, and facing a far more skilled and superior enemy that has control over America. So these masters hired to teach special ops are:
a) few and far between
b) not operating these training camps that anyone can just go to
c) training people in the field, because to do otherwise and train them to the master level is wasting supplies
d) Not amassing these large number of civilians to train to make a small personal army themselves.

So the primary resistance force is regular American people (since the best of the best would be recruited to the army, and they are losing), who if they own a gun, they own a hunting rifle or small fire arm like a 9 mm. Who likely have no real combat experience, and if their veterans are older, and beat up body wise. And dont have the discipline to organize plans other then those used in halo games they've stomped noobs with. Who would think to pick up guns from the battlefield and try and do that.

Now, taking all that into consideration, since that IS the scenario, the argument that these roving masters of weaponry with high powered guns that rival or surpass the military can stand against a highly trained, fitted, and manned army that is kicking our army's asses up and down the country falls apart rather swiftly. Especially since I'm going to assume that most of the Escapist community arent closeted gun nuts that have the skills to beat a Green Beret/Army Ranger/Navy Seal all rolled into one. Let alone whatever Special Ops the enemy is bringing with them. Really, you're looking at the Red Dawn Scenario more then anything else.

 

[Blue_vision]

Pretty much like OP said. If the invaders were being dicks, I'd try to protect people, similarly to how I'd try to protect people if my own country was doing something terrible, or some other country was doing something terrible to some other people.

But otherwise, I really don't care what legal entity controls the region I live in. As long as it's still the region I live in, I don't have much of a problem.

 

[Saviordd1]

It all depends, if it was an asian country i'd fight to the death because those guys arent so nice. If it was a middle eastern nation i'd again fight to the death, and then eat some bacon and ham sandwiches to rub it in their faces. If it was canada i would most likely join the other side and if a european nation attacked us i'd move to canada, unless it was england, in which case i grab my monocle and join the brits

 

[Lord_Nemesis]

As I live in Scotland, who the fuck wold invade here? What would anyone invade for? But, IF anyone did, depends on their nature. Cruel, evil fuckers: I'd rather go down fighting. Or anyone trying to bring in any of those fucked up *certain religon* laws. Ye, we all know what laws I'm on about. I would fight like fuck for tha too.

But if it was an ok people, why the fuck not? Their system can't be any worse than that which we have going here at present.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

My sense of self-preservation would have me run or, obey. I would be no help at all in any armed conflict so I would try my hardest to stay alive either by getting used to the new regime or, hoofing it to Canada.

 

[jdun]

Snip

I would hope I do, I live in America, close to a city where gang violence is rather something we try to watch out for. SO I think you're underr estimating the hate that these groups have for each other and the excuse of law no longer in effect to stop them. This is also talking about those that would pick on the "weak". The sense of AMerican Patriotism is rather low.

Finally, I think you're missing the point of the scenario, which is:

After seeing all these ________ invades America games like Homefront and MW2, I started wondering about this. If your country was invaded a foreign army and were losing, would you resist the invaders?
...
How zealous would you be in defending your country against a foreign army?

The bolded part being the most important.

And actually, lets go with this. You're saying that because American Citizenss have better weaponry then the Army, but not hte training, they'll succeed more then the Army. Well, lets see. The by and large is that a small portion of Americans have that kinda weaponry. Fewer know how to use it if they're not taught by the owners. Most Americans dont know how to use a weapon properly, and only would do what they see in games or movies. And they're supposed to stand against an Army with the training like, say.. Israel? Or Russia? Or against the Man power that is China (yeah, you can make all the jokes you want about how china has over a billion people but only about one of ten will have a quality gun, but still)?

ALso, that number is based of registered weapons. Most Gang members dont carry them, and most pack a sufficient heat since they turn cars into swiss cheese in drive bys.

you seem to be thinking that we americans are unified, and that the enemy is just getting of the boat and onto land. That our army is still standing and ready,a nd that the citizens are all sufficiently trained and all have a weapon and are all masters. Really, what the situation calls for that Americans are in small Guerrilla parties, on the run and severely outnumbered, out gunned, and facing a far more skilled and superior enemy that has control over America. So these masters hired to teach special ops are:
a) few and far between
b) not operating these training camps that anyone can just go to
c) training people in the field, because to do otherwise and train them to the master level is wasting supplies
d) Not amassing these large number of civilians to train to make a small personal army themselves.

So the primary resistance force is regular American people (since the best of the best would be recruited to the army, and they are losing), who if they own a gun, they own a hunting rifle or small fire arm like a 9 mm. Who likely have no real combat experience, and if their veterans are older, and beat up body wise. And dont have the discipline to organize plans other then those used in halo games they've stomped noobs with. Who would think to pick up guns from the battlefield and try and do that.

Now, taking all that into consideration, since that IS the scenario, the argument that these roving masters of weaponry with high powered guns that rival or surpass the military can stand against a highly trained, fitted, and manned army that is kicking our army's asses up and down the country falls apart rather swiftly. Especially since I'm going to assume that most of the Escapist community arent closeted gun nuts that have the skills to beat a Green Beret/Army Ranger/Navy Seal all rolled into one. Let alone whatever Special Ops the enemy is bringing with them. Really, you're looking at the Red Dawn Scenario more then anything else.

You really have no idea what I am talking about. Don't mix fantasy with reality. Reread what I have posted. That will answer all your questions.

Second I really don't know where you're going with this stupid gang tangent.

 

[Midnite_madness]

Ok not counting nukes for the time being, invading the u.s. would be very difficult multiple countrys would have to attack it all at once and the u.s. has some very high-tech weaponry besides there's always the rednecks with their shotguns if all else fails, personally I would only fight if my state was invaded and then I would probably fight a guerrilla war(I live in the u.s.)and look at the vietnam war the VC/NVA beat the u.s. and if we are counting nukes then I think the u.s. has the most or close to the most nuclear weapons and their probably the most advanced the u.s. also has the most advanced technology and russia is no longer the U.S.S.R. so their a lot less likely to attack, china and or north korea are now rivals to the u.s. and it's mainly N.korea and remember the u.s. has ally's unless the whole world attacks that would turn into a massive nuclear war where no one can win I mean I could see the N.koreians being hot headed enough to attack the u.s. the chinese are smart enough to not attack the main attacks now are terrorist attacks.

P.S. sorry if I sound racist I have nothing personal against any race of peaple but their are some individuals and governments that I don't like.

P.P.S.I think laser guns would be cooler lazer AKM-47...

 

[WhyBotherToTry]

I can't think who would want to invade Ireland unless they had some plan to move on to England, as that's the only real strategic value we have, and not knowing of any western countries that have a problem with England, If anyone further east was doing it, they'd be coming further than they needed to. But I think I'm getting a bit off topic. It would depend on who it was and what I'd heard of how they treat the people of the countries they occupied. Also I would be more inclined to fight if the invaders killed any of my family or friends.

 

[reconrider]

Well, since I'm in the military, I'd fight as hard as they told me to. and since I'm in the airforce, I know it would take more than one nation to pull off a successful invasion of the US.

First you gotta make it past our net of carriers destroyers and cruisers, which is no small feet, being the largest naval force the world has ever seen. then you have to destroy the airforce, again not a small feet, again the largest and most advanced aerial force the world has ever seen. then you have to deal with the army, marines and militias...

I say yeah, I'd fight, military or not, winning or losing. maybe im a brainwashed grunt, or maybe I believe that no matter how shitty our leaders can be sometimes, being under the rule of another nation would be MUCH worse... BTW, this is not the opinion of the USAF, this is my own opinion and should be treated as such.

 

[Nyaoku]

Yay survival training, up to date shots, and variable weaponry. I'll just set up a tent out in the middle of nowhere and start setting up the traps. I'm thinking punji-stakes and pitfalls.

 

[Erttheking]

If the friendly military presence in my area is strong, I'd try to grab a rifle or a shotgun and start blasting. If not I'd grab some gasoline tanks and do things Red Dawn style, I.E. hit and run.

 

[tsb247]

I believe that my state was already invaded once. I'm sure you all know what that attack was by looking at my location.

Technically, Hawaii was never invaded, but rather attacked. Having said that, the only piece of the U.S. to have been successfully invaded during the last century was the island of Kiska in the Aleutian island chain (and maybe another small uninhabited island or two in that chain).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiska

Fun fact, the island of Skira in that (Horrible) Codemasters game Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising is based on the topography and overall shape of Kiska.

 

[tsb247]

I will answer the question posed by th OP with a statement of my own.

"Wolverines!"

That is all.

 

[Ice Car]

I believe that my state was already invaded once. I'm sure you all know what that attack was by looking at my location.

Technically, Hawaii was never invaded, but rather attacked. Having said that, the only piece of the U.S. to have been successfully invaded during the last century was the island of Kiska in the Aleutian island chain (and maybe another small uninhabited island or two in that chain).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiska

Fun fact, the island of Skira in that (Horrible) Codemasters game Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising is based on the topography and overall shape of Kiska.

Whoa, I completely forgot about this topic because it was made exactly one year ago and it was right about when I joined.

Technically yes, it was attacked, not invaded, my bad.

Edit: Wait... How did I post on the 29th yet my registration date is the 30th? Is the registration date based on my timezone or the Escapist? Must have been one of the first topics I replied to.

 

[tsb247]

I believe that my state was already invaded once. I'm sure you all know what that attack was by looking at my location.

Technically, Hawaii was never invaded, but rather attacked. Having said that, the only piece of the U.S. to have been successfully invaded during the last century was the island of Kiska in the Aleutian island chain (and maybe another small uninhabited island or two in that chain).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiska

Fun fact, the island of Skira in that (Horrible) Codemasters game Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising is based on the topography and overall shape of Kiska.

Whoa, I completely forgot about this topic because it was made exactly one year ago and it was right about when I joined.

Technically yes, it was attacked, not invaded, my bad.

Edit: Wait... How did I post on the 29th yet my registration date is the 30th? Is the registration date based on my timezone or the Escapist? Must have been one of the first topics I replied to.

I guess someone brought it back from the dead, I read it, and it got started again. Wow... I did not realize that myself.