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oppp7 said:
I think the idea is to make characters more retarded.
I'm assuming this is what you meant, as regenerating health basically removed all difficulty from FPS games and has been the death knell of the entire genre as it slowly dwindles on its path of games with aforementioned regenerating health, space marines, and other terrible systems that people seem to clamor for because they enjoy playing the video game equivalent of Bad Boys 2.

Halo was bad. It has some of the worst level design in the history of the genre. There's outside level 1, outside level 2, alien space ship, the exact same alien spaceship but with a different room every now and then, stupid inside temple inside of outside level 1, alien space ship 2: the revenge, etc. I'm reminded of a Penny Arcade where they posit that the reason the level design is so bad is a defense system of the Aliens so that an intruder might get bored and leave. Halo became popular because people who drink Natty Light at Frat House Kappa Beta Whateverthefuck could play the game WHILE DRINKING Natty Light, high-fiving each other and listening to Slipknot.

Also the FPS genre has pretty much had no new ideas and has been slowly dying since around the late 90's.
 

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blackjaw1 said:
oppp7 said:
I think the idea is to make characters more retarded.
I'm assuming this is what you meant, as regenerating health basically removed all difficulty from FPS games and has been the death knell of the entire genre as it slowly dwindles on its path of games with aforementioned regenerating health, space marines, and other terrible systems that people seem to clamor for because they enjoy playing the video game equivalent of Bad Boys 2.

Halo was bad. It has some of the worst level design in the history of the genre. There's outside level 1, outside level 2, alien space ship, the exact same alien spaceship but with a different room every now and then, stupid inside temple inside of outside level 1, alien space ship 2: the revenge, etc. I'm reminded of a Penny Arcade where they posit that the reason the level design is so bad is a defense system of the Aliens so that an intruder might get bored and leave. Halo became popular because people who drink Natty Light at Frat House Kappa Beta Whateverthefuck could play the game WHILE DRINKING Natty Light, high-fiving each other and listening to Slipknot.

Also the FPS genre has pretty much had no new ideas and has been slowly dying since around the late 90's.
It hasn't removed all difficulty from games. I don't think Gears of War would be possible without regenerating health, same with Borderlands. They make it so you can heal after a fight to get ready for the next one. If I wanted a challenge where I couldn't just stand still I could easily just play another game. There's plenty of games that have regenerating health and plenty that don't, and neither seems to be dying out any time soon. I agree that standing behind a wall waiting to regenerate is kind of flow breaking (part of the reason I didn't care much for Gears of War), but some games, like I said, wouldn't work without it.
I never played the first Halo. I'm just working off what I've heard about it to argue that it has influenced games more than Half Life 2. Is it better? Probably not, since that's a matter of opinion.
Just because people like multiplayer does not make them less intelligent than everyone else. It just means they like challenging other people and winning. And what's wrong with frat people liking the game? I thought the Escapist had collectively decided that casual gamers were ok.
 

Volafortis

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The method they used to make the list screwed it from the start. However, the only real disagreement I have is that they should get rid of Uncharted 2, and put Mass Effect 1 on there. Uncharted 2 was good, but seriously overrated.
 

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Volafortis said:
The method they used to make the list screwed it from the start. However, the only real disagreement I have is that they should get rid of Uncharted 2, and put Mass Effect 1 on there. Uncharted 2 was good, but seriously overrated.
The problem with this is that Mass Effect 1 was released in 2007 and Uncharted 2 was released in 2009. Unless you're counting Japanese release.