I'm done with PS3!

[Treblaine]

Blu-Ray is more for the people who want to invest into the picture and sound more than anything. DVD is still great quality, I don't blame people who still buy it rather than switch over.DVD is still a great investment for overall reasons and accessibility.

Also, Ultimate edition were happening before Blu-ray really hit the scene. The biggest offenders being Terminator and mostly any cult hit sci-fi movie.

It is also debatable that some blu-rays looks worse then there DVD counterpart and vice versa.

edit*

Forgot about this.

Take a look at this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_disc

Holographics discs... it's like they are taunting us with the irrelevance... If blu-ray is too much at 50GB then why would we care about 5 Terabytes?

I really don't see the point in high data-density optical drives as a continuing technology.

Yes, optical discs are cheap to print en mass but they are limited by how relatively expensive it is to made Read (write) devices. A huge proportion (over $150) of the price of PS3 was for the Blu-ray drive. That and they are just so slow compared to Hard-disk drives, both in read time and scan time. Data on Optical discs is set. That is far too inflexible in this day and age when game patches are now synonymous for video games and Xbox 360 has hard-drive installation available as standard now for all games and Steam exists entirely as digital downloads.

Slow and inflexible is not the future and I think focus on raw capacity is a false goal. Capacity isn't the problem. Really, for a SET AND FIXED volume, what would I ever need 50GB of? That means no editing, no additions nor deletions. Not very useful. Maybe long term data storage?

I know the internet isn't that great for some people, but it SHOULD be the future. Optical Discs are intermediate technology of distributing data. Ideally it should be distributed via network and stored on hard drives for maximum capability with minimum cost. I work in a computer repair shop that also builds custom Gaming PCs and my boss thinks optical drives are now an optional extra as so rarely do you need one you can just borrow a USB drive on the occasion you need to install something via CD. You can even install windows via USB now.

I'm not a fan of "The Cloud" but rather simply downloading and owning your own version, on your hard drive or USB Stick.

DVD is in a good place as it has relatively high read speeds and the reader-technology is inexpensive and pervasive.

PS: my issue with ultimate-editions is not the content but quality. The gave DVD quality blu-rays, then want to sell it to us again as "ultimate" when really it should be the "not shit" version. My 90's era DVD of The Matrix (the one in the old DVD boxes wit the cardboard flap with plastic clip) is still great looking, better than the VHS release.

 

[odanhammer]

We all have problems with our consoles from time to time.
From dropping my PS2 on the ground and having to take it apart to get the cd-drive popped back into place .
To having 5 xbox 360's in 6 months , long story short after the first red ring , the next 3 were defective pretty much a week after getting them back , the last one sratched and damaged my Halo 3 disk and i said screw this.
To having a DS lite hinge break in my pocket in the middle of summer and the most boring concert ever.

Deal with it , hope the xbox works better for you , was a good choice honestly to have 1 or the 2 consoles . you really don't need a xbox 360 and PS3 , both are almost equals .

 

[AgentCooper]

Blu-Ray is more for the people who want to invest into the picture and sound more than anything. DVD is still great quality, I don't blame people who still buy it rather than switch over.DVD is still a great investment for overall reasons and accessibility.

Also, Ultimate edition were happening before Blu-ray really hit the scene. The biggest offenders being Terminator and mostly any cult hit sci-fi movie.

It is also debatable that some blu-rays looks worse then there DVD counterpart and vice versa.

edit*

Forgot about this.

Take a look at this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_disc

Holographics discs... it's like they are taunting us with the irrelevance... If blu-ray is too much at 50GB then why would we care about 5 Terabytes?

I really don't see the point in high data-density optical drives as a continuing technology.

Yes, optical discs are cheap to print en mass but they are limited by how relatively expensive it is to made Read (write) devices. A huge proportion (over $150) of the price of PS3 was for the Blu-ray drive. That and they are just so slow compared to Hard-disk drives, both in read time and scan time. Data on Optical discs is set. That is far too inflexible in this day and age when game patches are now synonymous for video games and Xbox 360 has hard-drive installation available as standard now for all games and Steam exists entirely as digital downloads.

Slow and inflexible is not the future and I think focus on raw capacity is a false goal. Capacity isn't the problem. Really, for a SET AND FIXED volume, what would I ever need 50GB of? That means no editing, no additions nor deletions. Not very useful. Maybe long term data storage?

I know the internet isn't that great for some people, but it SHOULD be the future. Optical Discs are intermediate technology of distributing data. Ideally it should be distributed via network and stored on hard drives for maximum capability with minimum cost. I work in a computer repair shop that also builds custom Gaming PCs and my boss thinks optical drives are now an optional extra as so rarely do you need one you can just borrow a USB drive on the occasion you need to install something via CD. You can even install windows via USB now.

I'm not a fan of "The Cloud" but rather simply downloading and owning your own version, on your hard drive or USB Stick.

DVD is in a good place as it has relatively high read speeds and the reader-technology is inexpensive and pervasive.

PS: my issue with ultimate-editions is not the content but quality. The gave DVD quality blu-rays, then want to sell it to us again as "ultimate" when really it should be the "not shit" version. My 90's era DVD of The Matrix (the one in the old DVD boxes wit the cardboard flap with plastic clip) is still great looking, better than the VHS release.

I could see HVG being used and readily available.... But, Blu-ray is still in its infantile stage at this point in its life.

I see downloads as a viable source for movies and games. I also don't see physical media going away in twenty or so years. Who knows what the entertainment market would be like when Im in my 40's.

Honestly the ultimate editions are really hit and miss like you say. Half of my Anime collection I refuse to replace on blu-ray due to the quality being worse on blu-ray on shows pre 2002.

 

[Conza]

Firstly;

even the X-Box 360 that I share with my sister (even though the console still has a high failure rate) is much more reliable than the PS3.

Wrong. Simply wrong, now I know I own a PS3, but the original vs. original and slim vs. slim, the PS3 is a much more reliable console, red ring of death far out weighs yellow light, and the modern console failure rates for both are quite low.

I think original PS3 vs. Slim 360, you might have something, but that point is fairly irrelevent, so, yeah check that one out, it's the truth.

A couple of days ago, I wrote a blog topic stating that there was a problem with my PS3's trophy syncing function. I mentioned that I had contacted Sony and they had asked me to restore my console, which I did, but the problem came back when I tried to install the trophies for the Killzone 3 multiplayer.

I never really understood the whole trophy thing, but I cannot see it being worth selling your PS3 over, I think this is a huge over reaction, I recently backed up and restored my PS3 because I upgraded its HDD, and all '3' of my trophys that I had returned with no problem... I would've kept trying if they were that important to you.

So, after trying to fix the console with no clear solutions, I simply decided to sell my PS3 and all my games and simply just not bother with Sony ever again (unless the PS4 is awesome or something).

Looking back at it though, I have to admit that I'm pretty much fed up with Sony and how much of a mess the PS3 can get into at times. I mean it only lasted 2 years before this happened, and in that time, I've come to realise that there were times when it messed up for very simple reasons, which I believe is unacceptable in this day and age. I've had Steam since 2008 (yes, I know, Steam isn't a console), and I've never experienced anything that has ruined it for me,

This is obviously where I snipped you about. No Steam isn't a console, but it's basically a PC program... or rather, it is a PC program

So, basically, I've had enough with the PS3 and with Sony in general. I don't have any regrets selling the PS3.

Well, you might just not have had enough of the right games on there, if you like more of the 360 titles, then that's probably the console for you, PS3 has its genres and so does 360, so if you can get by on just the 360 (and PC by the sounds of things), you probably wasted your time buying a PS3 in the first place, but if it irritated you that much, the whole Killzone trophy thing, my guess is that you made a mistake selling the PS3, because you actually liked that game, and its a PS3 exclusive.

If you had GT5 or were a car man, you never would've sold your PS3; but otherwise, I can't see any reason to keep it, oh its also a blu-ray player (have another one?), has good fighting games... with a PC and a 360, I think you might be covered for everything else, but only time will tell what you miss out on, if anything.

 

[Wereduck]

-snip-
First world problems. http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36g717/

Well said good sir.
"First world problems" is generally one of my most hated strawmen but in this case it really does seem appropriate.

 

[Treblaine]

I could see HVG being used and readily available.... But, Blu-ray is still in its infantile stage at this point in its life.

Why? Why would anyone need one item with one fixed data-set of6 terabytes? SIX THOUSAND GIGABYTES!!!?!

That's several orders of magnitude more than any High definition movie. It would be worthless to have a compilation of movies as you couldn't watch one while another is lent to someone else, or they want to watch in another room. It's a nightmare to sort and what about cost?!? instead of slowly building a film collection with each decision being a few dollars they'd have to spend HUNDREDS of dollars up front for a compilation where very likely a large proportion of films they simply won't care about.

It's worthless trying to put films of higher definition on discs, as Blu-Ray already has more detail than we can actually resolve - that is, the way we actually view films. I mean the average person is NOT going to have a 75-inch HDTV in every room, and it would NEED to be that big for all the pixels that are on there too be large enough to actually be resolved.

The alternative is to sit closer to the screen and I mean REALLY close. I mean within 4 feet of a 30 inch screen, so much that if fills you vision quite completely.

Holographic discs. Pah, like Laser buggy whips. An advanced technique for and obsolete mode of technology.

Blu-ray is going to be the absolute pinnacle of home video until somehow people are convinced to buy MASSIVE televisions, OR internet inevitably catches up. I think the latter will happen first as ridiculously gigantic TVs have to pass the wife test and they don't want massive cinema screen in their living room.

I doubt you could sell to many a technology suite offering detail so fine that the human eye cannot perceive it.

 

[EHKOS]

I have to agree with the other two posters so far. Unless there are other problems that you are not telling us about, that's a pretty weak excuse.

It's your stuff so you can smash it with a hammer because it's not green for all I care but if you came on here looking for sympathy/support, you're not getting it. I just got my PS3 for Christmas and have had endless enjoyment playing all these PS3 exclusives that I haven't been able to get with my 360 (MGS4 has some loooooong cut-scenes)

I know, I've been catching up too. It's nice to have a Sony system again. Although my wallet has seen better days.

 

[Skin]

BUT I can't take this as a legitimate complaint against the console as a whole.

What fucking thread are you reading? OP doesn't try to persuade anyone that the PS3 is bad, he is just expressing how he feels. Notice all the "I's" and "I'm"...

God "I" hate The Escapist sometimes.

DERP.

 

[Jodah]

I came in here expecting some detailed reasoning with some modicum of truth and meaning. Instead I see the stupidest reason in the history of gaming. It's one thing to be angry at them for poor games (in your opinion) or poor customer service. But to complain about effing trophies that almost nobody pays attention to is stupid. That's like selling your car because the cigarette lighter stopped working...

 

[Treblaine]

the last one sratched and damaged my Halo 3 disk and i said screw this.

All evidence points to it being impossible for an Xbox 360 to scratch a disc unless you MOVE IT WHILE IT IS OPERATING! OK, now if there was an earthquake or your ikea furniture unexpectedly collapsed, I think you have to take responsibility for that one. I'm amazed people don't get this, this has been true for EVERY disc based console and we've had them in our homes for the past 18 years now.

Xbox 360 is slightly more susceptible because it has such high data-transfer rates and so the disc spins faster than others. But you know just... Don't move it while it is turned on.

You can greatly reduce this risk by installing your games to a hard drive or USB stick. Look it up.

 

[AgentCooper]

I could see HVG being used and readily available.... But, Blu-ray is still in its infantile stage at this point in its life.

Why? Why would anyone need one item with one fixed data-set of6 terabytes? SIX THOUSAND GIGABYTES!!!?!

That's several orders of magnitude more than any High definition movie. It would be worthless to have a compilation of movies as you couldn't watch one while another is lent to someone else, or they want to watch in another room. It's a nightmare to sort and what about cost?!? instead of slowly building a film collection with each decision being a few dollars they'd have to spend HUNDREDS of dollars up front for a compilation where very likely a large proportion of films they simply won't care about.

It's worthless trying to put films of higher definition on discs, as Blu-Ray already has more detail than we can actually resolve - that is, the way we actually view films. I mean the average person is NOT going to have a 75-inch HDTV in every room, and it would NEED to be that big for all the pixels that are on there too be large enough to actually be resolved.

The alternative is to sit closer to the screen and I mean REALLY close. I mean within 4 feet of a 30 inch screen, so much that if fills you vision quite completely.

Holographic discs. Pah, like Laser buggy whips. An advanced technique for and obsolete mode of technology.

Blu-ray is going to be the absolute pinnacle of home video until somehow people are convinced to buy MASSIVE televisions, OR internet inevitably catches up. I think the latter will happen first as ridiculously gigantic TVs have to pass the wife test and they don't want massive cinema screen in their living room.

I doubt you could sell to many a technology suite offering detail so fine that the human eye cannot perceive it.

I do IT work for a living and the comment didn't say available to the mass market consumer. Sorry, If I seemed liked I implied it.

Have to think 4th dimension with it and be so hung up on things like why.

I'm curious about this to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Television

 

[FalloutJack]

BUT I can't take this as a legitimate complaint against the console as a whole.

What fucking thread are you reading? OP doesn't try to persuade anyone that the PS3 is bad, he is just expressing how he feels. Notice all the "I's" and "I'm"...

God "I" hate The Escapist sometimes.

DERP.

You would be surprised to know how many times that actually makes no difference when a poster is in rant mode. The use of personal pronouns can, have, and will again be just coincidental at times like these. Sorry.

HERP-A-DERP.

 

[Jfswift]

The restore function is garbage and trashed all my save files (online backup works okay though), so I'm with you there.

 

[Conza]

Obvious troll is obvious.

How does pointing out the deficiencies of Sony make someone a troll?

Wrong. Simply wrong, now I know I own a PS3, but the original vs. original and slim vs. slim, the PS3 is a much more reliable console, red ring of death far out weighs yellow light, and the modern console failure rates for both are quite low.

So he's wrong about what happened to him? Was he not there when it happened? You might see the PS3 as more reliable as the Xbox 360, but he saw different. Frankly, I've dealt with the RRoD and don't see why everyone is whining. I do agree that its dumb and makes the console too moody, but it isn't all that hard to fix. And if you don't feel like it, Microsoft will replace it and only charge for shipping. Sony will just laugh at you, if you ask. Now which company would you rather do business with?

Extremely loaded question 'which company would rather do business with'. Not Microsoft. They are quintessentially evil, constantly ripping off all of their competitors, cornering the market then screwing their customers. Both consoles have warranties, if you are outside for EITHER manufacturer, they will BOTH laugh at you. Get it right.

 

[AgentCooper]

Extremely loaded question 'which company would rather do business with'. Not Microsoft. They are quintessentially evil, constantly ripping off all of their competitors, cornering the market then screwing their customers. Both consoles have warranties, if you are outside for EITHER manufacturer, they will BOTH laugh at you. Get it right.

Yeah, Sony ne-e-e-ever rips off there competitors. Duelshock controllers, internet connectivity, internal hard drive, and PS Move. Sony is made up of Jedi Masters in the art of ripoffs. I'd like to remind you that two of those ideas were Microsoft's before Sony gave it a try. In fact, the duelshock controllers were such a blatant ripoff that Sony ended up getting sewed for it. What did Microsoft ripoff? Rumble feature (obviously), four controller ports, and internet connectivity. I'm not sure if internet should count because it didn't get popular after Sega tried it, so it was still a risk. Microsoft popularized and innovated a lot more than Sony did. Does that make Sony a bad company? No. A lot of other things do that.

I love how you accuse Microsoft of screwing their customers. I bought a used Xbox 360, and Microsoft still replaced it at their own expense when it broke. When my PS2 had problems, Sony told me that they'd charge $60 to fix it. I just gave them the middle finger and fixed it myself. All that was needed was some internal dust removal, certainly not worth 60 USD. Granted, the PS2 was old, but I didn't clarify to the operator what the serial number was. It would have been the same, if I had the latest model.

The reason I've had it with Sony is because they have contempt for the consumer. I gave up expecting quality from them years ago, because of all the other electronics they make. PS1, PS2, & PSP were anomalies; high quality products in spite of Sony's usual approach. The PS3 and PSVita are typical Sony products. They are overloaded with unneeded special features that they don't even do all that well.

Microsoft does have the same tendency, but they at least feel bad about it. They go out of their way to fix malfunctioning products. So...bad products with terrible customer service...or bad products with good customer service. Yeah, tough call. Microsoft is on a level Sony couldn't reach in their wildest and most insane dreams.

Nintendo is the console developer that is doing relatively best. They trip every other step, but in the right direction at least. Motion controls were a good idea, but it was clearly better suited to be a peripheral than the main controller. This is why Nintendo brushed it aside a few years ago and rarely used it for games. They continue to actually release games (what a novel concept) and improve off their previous efforts.

Quite obvious from your anti Sony rant. Its hard to take you serious when you are so one sided on the issues here.

 

[FiveSpeedf150]

Wait... people give a shit about trophies?

No, really? I don't believe it. It's like that "gamerscore" nonsense on the xbox. I just wanna play my games, thanks.