I'm from the south, and I hear this EVERY SINGLE DAY:

[Saskwach]

In my experience most Southerners are the least racist people in the country, especially against black people. Would you like to know why? BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE ONLY LIVE IN THE SOUTH!! Honestly look up a map on the population distribution map of African-Americans and see that they live in the South. Everyone else is racist due simply to the fact that there are no African-Americans anywhere else.

Um, what? Proximity has nothing to do with a culture's/people's outlook on any race. In fact, proximity often amplifies bad feelings because 'they' are taking Your jobs, selling Your son drugs, and dating Your daughters. I'm not weighing in on the subject of racism in the South; I'm only sayng that having lots of Those people around usually doesn't improve racist views. Look at the Balkans. That place is a steaming cesspool of hatred, and all because it's Europe times 1000 in terms of ethnic diversity and old historic grudges.

 

[Samirat]

*sips cocoa*

Sure is nice and boring up here in Canada.

I know American politics will affect the world but, for now, can't we have threads on something new and fresh? It seems every aspect of the political campaign is being hammered into my mind grapes and I don't even live in the USA.

I would choose to ignore the threads but it seems like they're everywhere these days.

Aww, poor guy, just can't resist clicking on those political threads, even though he knows that he won't like them. They're like Twizzlers. They look like they're going to taste really good, until you bite them, and then all you taste are lies.

It's better to just not read them, and if you really can't resist, keep it to yourself, eh?

 

[InifniteWit]

Um, what? Proximity has nothing to do with a culture's/people's outlook on any race. In fact, proximity often amplifies bad feelings because 'they' are taking Your jobs, selling Your son drugs, and dating Your daughters. I'm not weighing in on the subject of racism in the South; I'm only sayng that having lots of Those people around usually doesn't improve racist views. Look at the Balkans. That place is a steaming cesspool of hatred, and all because it's Europe times 1000 in terms of ethnic diversity and old historic grudges.

While that can be true it is also true that living in a 50/50 split with people as I do means that you're familiar with people and their real actions. Being familiar with people and the way they act on a day to day basis means that generally you don't have huge cases of xenophobia. If you were born in a place where half of the people in your school are African-American you probably won't view they as 'Those people' but as just anyone else you'd interact with. The label of 'Those people' is most often, in my experience is applies not to people you've lived with all your life but to people who's beliefs and motivations you are unfamiliar with, thus the ridiculous hatred of illegal immigrants.

 

[Droshi]

It has nothing to do with losing the war, unless it's the war on literacy which we, the South, are still losing at an alarming rate. The reason the South is slandered is because it's based in fact. I've lived in the South my entire life and I have no illusions about the kind of people who populate this forsaken region of the nation.

While it's true that not every Southerner is backwards, illiterate, racist, or a redneck, a greater portion of Southerners are. I've traveled throughout much of the South in my life and I can attest that in my own personal experience Southern people in general are complete morons. They thump their bibles, display thinly veiled racism, and are patriotic to the point of being morons who will support anything the government tells them because disagreement means you're a traitor to your nation.

Honestly, as much as I enjoy my right to vote, I know the kind of people in my community, and the country as a whole would be better off if we simply didn't count any votes below the Mason-Dixon.

I see your point, and I have to concede some truth to it, but I think it is exaggerated, and a lot offensive. I have traveled extensively in the South, northern seaboard, and West, and I've never seen anything that made me look on the South as poorly as you describe. Not that the people you describe aren't there, but I haven't seen them as a majority in most regions. On the other hand, I've been to Boston and New York, and I wasn't stricken by their kindness, enlightenment and understanding. Quite the opposite. In my experience, the South just isn't that much worse than the North in this regard, except in specific regions, which is a point I must concede.

And it has everything to do with the war. The South is a very different place to this day because of the havoc caused. The North could absorb the loss of life, the South could not. The infrastructure, industry, and agricultural base of the South was crushed, and specific regions never recovered.

I also have no delusions about the place I live and the people I am from. And I still say that they frequently get a bad rap. Congressional Reconstruction was a pretty bad rap.

As someone living in Southeastern Alabama, I can say that I feel exactly as you do. I don't know where the OP lives, but I almost never experience what he pointed out. And I live in the most stereotyped location in America (from what I have seen).

 

[Droshi]

I live in Alabama and I have to say I hear comments like the stereotypical one in the OP every day I go to high school (admittedly by the students). Everyday the stereotypical white trash kid (we have them but they're not the majority) says something like "He's a Muslim" or "He's bad for America and is a socialist commie". Then there's the ultra Christians talking about how "Obama's the Antichrist". And we had an argument in my history class play out over that until the teacher told them to shut the fuck up. The teachers are more intelligent, discreet, and if they bring politics up they give reasons to back it up. I only see a couple of fellow students who support McCain who back their convictions up with actual dialogue other than passed down stereotypes or lies. The Obama supporters tend to be less vocal and more rational.Although every person I've seen who actually wore an Obama shirt so far has been black which I find disturbing because it makes me think they're voting for Obama for race only. But this is all anecdotal.

While I rarely hear some of the things mentioned in this thread, I did have an old woman at the gas station try to convince me that Obama was the Antichrist.

I lol'd. If Obama was the Antichrist, he wouldn't have public flaws, right? Like smoking?

On the note of Obama smoking, I don't know why everyone (especially Fox News) freaked out about it. Since our current President did coke in the past.

 

[duckfishcatbird]

Yeah, that's where you're completely wrong.80% of the south?Where the fuck are you getting these statistics?I live in Mississippi and the trailer park is a dying race.You make a thread about lower class white people from the south who vote for mccain or at least support him because he's white, well why don't you make another thread about the lower class black people who vote for obama because he's black?or say a black guy votes for mccain because he's white.You know, I hate how these stereotypes are only accepted if they are made against white people these days.Why don't you check your facts and figure out that the south is actually rich in culture, just like many other parts of the country?

 

[Droshi]

Yeah, that's where you're completely wrong.80% of the south?Where the fuck are you getting these statistics?I live in Mississippi and the trailer park is a dying race.You make a thread about lower class white people from the south who vote for mccain or at least support him because he's white, well why don't you make another thread about the lower class black people who vote for obama because he's black?or say a black guy votes for mccain because he's white.You know, I hate how these stereotypes are only accepted if they are made against white people these days.Why don't you check your facts and figure out that the south is actually rich in culture, just like many other parts of the country?

Thank you.

 

[sabotstarr]

"OBAMA IS A MUSLIM HE WANTS TO TAKE AWAY ALL THE GUNS AND HE RAPED A GAY BABY DUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRR."

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Fact: 80% of southerners are still a bunch of racist, know-nothing hicks. It pains me to admit it, but it's totally true.

Hypocrisy is very becoming on you, I think it accents your eyes wonderfully.

Ultimately, there are a lot of "special" people in the South, but that doesn't mean generalizing 8/10[sup]th[/sup] (4/5[sup]th[/sup]) of them is going to do any good but perhaps alienate yourself to an audience of those more intelligent voters that you're trying to appeal to.

There are a lot more informed voters out there than you're giving credit to, even in the South. Logically, McCain will get more votes down here, but not for the same reasons you've given.

dude relax.... if he was that serious he wouldn't of already admitted to making fun of stupid rumors.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

I like the South, if only in a purely detached sense of it resembles a cultural isolation zone, where various phenomena, such as slavery, inbreeding and lynchings can survive where else they have been removed by means of natural selection.

Still, you should have won the Civil War. T'would have been most amusing, i'faith. Let the Royal Navy reduce New york to a smoking ruin and burn Washington to the ground (again) while dear old Lee marches up through the North and knocks down the major cities.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Actually that is all funny. Obama is looking at taking Florida, West Virgina, Virgina, and North Carolina. It is not the white people that will get him the votes there really. I imagine some liberally minded southern white people will vote for Obama in those states, but people seem to forget that a LOT of African American people live in the South. The majority of them are voting for Obama.

yes a few of the southern states have what's known as a minority majority, meaning there's more minorities (african american, latino and so forth) than white ppl

and frankly who do you think the African Americans will vote for? the Black guy or the Old White Guy? they will probly be out in droves too

 

[Shivari]

I live in Cleveland and I overheard a classmate saying that Obama would take away all of the guns in the country. I called him out on it, but he defended it with a "Whatever, I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. So ignorance isn't exclusive to the South.

Oh, but if Obama was going to ban guns I would be his #1 fan.

 

[Creativename360]

I live in Cleveland and I overheard a classmate saying that Obama would take away all of the guns in the country.

Well, One of my classmates says his Dad was voting for Obama only because he's counting on his assasination. He said "It'd be the most fun America would have ever since 9/11". You definitely got some real shining beacons of humanity in the Cleveland public school system here.

 

[Shivari]

I live in Cleveland and I overheard a classmate saying that Obama would take away all of the guns in the country.

Well, One of my classmates says his Dad was voting for Obama only because he's counting on his assasination. He said "It'd be the most fun America would have ever since 9/11". You definitely got some real shining beacons of humanity in the Cleveland public school system here.

Well I don't live in Cleveland, I live in a suburb outside of Cleveland.

 

[Creativename360]

Well I don't live in Cleveland, I live in a suburb outside of Cleveland.

Technically, I do too, but It's still close enough to Cleveland for me to say Im living in Cleveland. Still, doesn't negate the fact that alot of the school's here aren't all that great.

 

[broadband]

well this maybe is a bit off topic, but i remember that in a thread about mercenaries 2, some people said stuff like Chavez is batshit loco orsomething like that, /and you call yourselves to be a intelectual forum)

 

[Shivari]

Well I don't live in Cleveland, I live in a suburb outside of Cleveland.

Technically, I do too, but It's still close enough to Cleveland for me to say Im living in Cleveland. Still, doesn't negate the fact that alot of the school's here aren't all that great.

Meh, my school is pretty good. The building isn't the nicest but I'd still say the teachers are very good. And ever since I got into honors classes I've been separated from the cesspool.

 

[Madshaw]

*sips cocoa*

Sure is nice and boring up here in Canada.

I know American politics will affect the world but, for now, can't we have threads on something new and fresh? It seems every aspect of the political campaign is being hammered into my mind grapes and I don't even live in the USA.

I would choose to ignore the threads but it seems like they're everywhere these days.

agree with you entirely, I'm a brit and all this is getting boring

 

[Creativename360]

Meh, my school is pretty good. The building isn't the nicest but I'd still say the teachers are very good. And ever since I got into honors classes I've been separated from the cesspool.

We're getting a bit off-topic here, we should continue this with PM's, or drop the subject.

Edit: But I'll have the last word here, In my school, you need a body temperature roughly in the 80 to 90 degrees Farenheit to get a "Honor ROll" certificate here.

 

[Zer_]

Obama is an African American Muslim Jew, and he did bad things.