shrekfan246 said:
Obligatory:
The common slang that "hipster" is used for now rarely means more than "That person doesn't like something popular, they're so edgy!"
I associate it with people who will state they don't like something popular because it's popular, who often employ idioms such as "You wouldn't understand" or "They were better before they sold out/went mainstream", wear lensless glasses and scarves and tight jeans especially when it would mean being uncomfortable, and just generally subscribe to conformity by trying to escape conformity. Or rather, they try so hard to get away from "the mainstream" that they just fall into stereotypical "hipster" territory instead.
They seem much more common than they are just because "hipster" has become another slang insult for the internet to brandish about.
"Hipster," by their own self-proclaimed, ironic hands, has become synonymous with "douchebag."
It's not hard to not be mainstream. The people who get called "hipsters" are just dicks about it.
There's also a certain irony about conforming to nonconformity, which is where the Hipster images comes from, but that's not new. I mean, as The Who once said, "I've got to move with the trends of the outcast."
Thing is, a lot of us are different. Some are like, "whatever, man," and some are all in your face about it.
I think this comment makes a lot of sense:
Heronblade said:
A somewhat more specific definition might be that they largely represent the art nerd side of counter culture. Every hipster I've ever met has been drawn to/obsessed with literature and/or music
Well, nerds do tend to have a huge stick up their ass about their pastimes, so it fits.
Hipsters, the type of people we tend to see as them (and honestly, who else would want the label) just come off as massively insecure to me.
And honestly, with your goth comparison, there was a lot of the 90s "goth" culture that basically invaded by the same camp and mentality. I used to despise being called a "goth," because while I was somewhat interested in Goth/industrial music, I really wasn't that into the culture and there was a huge sort of anti-mainstream connotation that went along with it. Oh, the other thing I had in common with goths? I wore black. That makes me a goth, right? Or Amish....Or a Rabbi...Anyway, I grew out of the resentment as well, because people are going to label you whether you label yourself or not. The point more being the connotations. Those who were still into it or had been before it became the fad tended to be among the nicest people I knew, and suddenly you had a community of "fuck you jocks/cheerleaders!" running around like twats. Same thing happened with punk. And the term "emo," though honestly I don't buy into the real "emo" being a thing, either.
Hipsters are usually the same types of people who take other non-mainstream movements way too far.
In fact, I don't think we even need most of these "movements." We'd be better off if we could teach people that being secure in what you are is better than proclaiming individuality by shunning one bandwagon for another.
And honestly, I hope nobody who reads this is offended. I'm rambling and obviously biased, but I'm not actually out to hurt peoples' feelings. Even the "douchebag" part is intended more towards the "it's okay not to like things but don't be a dick about it" thing.