Imagine the beard. The knowledge of centuries combined with the greatest beard to grace the earth. Suddenly immortality sounds a lot more bearable doesn't it?Kwaku Avoke said:
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I wouldn't mind living for an extra century or so, but as for actual immortality, no thank you.
I don't want to be stuck in time as everyone I care about ages and dies. I do not want to deal with the end of all other life on earth. I do not want to deal with the darkness that follows the sun's eventual death. I do not want to be around to see the end of the universe and continue to exist beyond it. And all that stuff is being kind towards the concept and assuming that my body doesn't still crave oxygen, food and drink (if it did, then eternity just got that much MORE uncomfortable), and that the advanced age of the mind isn't affected by senility, and that eternal youth is a given.
I don't want to be stuck in time as everyone I care about ages and dies. I do not want to deal with the end of all other life on earth. I do not want to deal with the darkness that follows the sun's eventual death. I do not want to be around to see the end of the universe and continue to exist beyond it. And all that stuff is being kind towards the concept and assuming that my body doesn't still crave oxygen, food and drink (if it did, then eternity just got that much MORE uncomfortable), and that the advanced age of the mind isn't affected by senility, and that eternal youth is a given.
Cool beards are cool of course but immortality wouldn't help if i were senile. As long as youth to the degree of full bodily functions and motor control is given then i wouldn't mind.Techno Squidgy said:
As long as I don't age much then I'm cool with with it. Honestly I'd prefer it if the only thing I could die from is old age so for example the day I hit 100 I die.
Anyone whose read "I have no mouth and I must scream" should know it has potential to be hellish beyond comprehension. Someone above me noted "If you weren't a blob, it'd be a gift" (to that extent), which ironically mirrors the aforementioned example of literature.
Personally, if I didn't age after the mid-20s, I'd be fine with it, as long as I didn't enter a vegetative state...
Personally, if I didn't age after the mid-20s, I'd be fine with it, as long as I didn't enter a vegetative state...
I do not believe in an after life, yet I do not have any desire whatsoever to live forever. It's actually one of the things that turned me off of religion (or at least Christianity to begin with). To me, if you live forever, there is no point in trying to make the best of what you have now. It won't matter because there is no ticking clock. You fuck up today, whatever. There will always be tomorrow.
For me, I find hope in the fact that I won't live forever, either on this plane or, in my opinion, on any other. I have to make the most of the time I've got.
TL;DR: In order to truly live, you have to die.
For me, I find hope in the fact that I won't live forever, either on this plane or, in my opinion, on any other. I have to make the most of the time I've got.
TL;DR: In order to truly live, you have to die.
I think it depends on how you look at it. Are you the only immortal? Watching your friends and family die might kinda suck. Do you age? Being 350 and very feeble might suck. When you say immortal do you mean you CAN'T die? Or just you won't die from old age? There are lots of factors to take into account. To be honest, if I was the only immortal I would not want it. If there were others, I think I would.
Depends if there is life beyond death, physical shape (could be immortal but old to the point that you can't do squat), and stuck with current lurning curve (not all humans are equal when it comes to gathering, keeping, and using knowledge to its fullest).xOriigins said:
I will admit that I am no genius and if I am stuck with my current level of intelligence forever I rather be dead...
As long as it isn't complete immunity to everything, I say sure. Even better if I have to do something really obscure, rather than something boring like "not eat" or "get shot" to die. After all, I'm curious what the future holds. And I already know that the person I love most is going to die before me. May as well indulge my curiosity after that.
That's a false dichotomy, is like saying that in order to eat you have to be hungry, or that in order to have sexual intercourse you need to be horny. If you have a passion in life you will peruse it no matter what, because it's amazing to chase a dream.Loner Jo Jo said:
Gimme immortality or give me death!!!1
Perhaps more interestingly, immortality is actually within our grasp.
With technology advancing as it is, computers will be as intricate and advanced as the human brain by 2029, assuming that human civilization doesn't suffer a socioeconomic meltdown between now and then.
Neuroscience may take a little bit longer to catch up, but when it does, it will be possible to connect with a sufficiently advanced computer and simply 'copy & paste' the entire contents of our brain into it. In this regard, so long as one conducts regular backups of their mind, and can afford a new body, they would be effectively immortal.
Never mind the tantalizing possibility of uploading one's own mind into the computer arrays of something much larger and more specialized...such as a spacecraft. Without the need for life support systems and living quarters, there is no real obstacle to centuries-long flights between star systems.
Call me a futurist...but immortality is going to rock.
With technology advancing as it is, computers will be as intricate and advanced as the human brain by 2029, assuming that human civilization doesn't suffer a socioeconomic meltdown between now and then.
Neuroscience may take a little bit longer to catch up, but when it does, it will be possible to connect with a sufficiently advanced computer and simply 'copy & paste' the entire contents of our brain into it. In this regard, so long as one conducts regular backups of their mind, and can afford a new body, they would be effectively immortal.
Never mind the tantalizing possibility of uploading one's own mind into the computer arrays of something much larger and more specialized...such as a spacecraft. Without the need for life support systems and living quarters, there is no real obstacle to centuries-long flights between star systems.
Call me a futurist...but immortality is going to rock.
I have to argue that, if your 'power' (nanotech, political, etc) still existed, would you want to continue living.
If I had no power, other than my singular human body, I would still like to live until the collapse of the universe, to see how humanity evolved (But only if I had the statis/skip time option), abit like the 'skip scene' feature, the big picture of the movie without the rubbish.
If I had some power, preferably not Godlike (Because I don't think even I could be responsible with that much power), more like able to cure and gently refocus humanity, I think I'd like to see what acouple million years of my influence would do to society. Would it become better or would it devolve into mindless war?
If I had no power, other than my singular human body, I would still like to live until the collapse of the universe, to see how humanity evolved (But only if I had the statis/skip time option), abit like the 'skip scene' feature, the big picture of the movie without the rubbish.
If I had some power, preferably not Godlike (Because I don't think even I could be responsible with that much power), more like able to cure and gently refocus humanity, I think I'd like to see what acouple million years of my influence would do to society. Would it become better or would it devolve into mindless war?
well, it's obviously a gift but not for any human i can think ofxOriigins said:
you would go insane because your brain cannot handle such things
you would however experience things beyond your imagination, and be rich beyond measure
( imagine minimum wage for the rest of time, that's allot. )
that's the least creative you could get obviously but probably the safest thing to do if you don't want to draw attention to yourself
good job it's impossible, eh?
#disclaimer#
it's theoretically possible with nano technology, if you can repair individual dna strands, or at-least replace entire cells
( imagine something like a sleep state, where anything not functioning 100% gets replaced )
but you're still replacing everything that makes you you, eventually you'll be entirely replaced.. you still get destroyed and recycled into the environment, all that remains will be a new body every century, the electrical impulses and chemicals in your body will not persist they will constantly be renewed as well
so what makes you you? this just comes back to a philosophical debate over what humanity is
and if you're still you when all the original parts are lost
it's well known that people change with age, they rarely persist 100% in every aspect of personality
because those things are based on chemical reactions, which change over time
eventually, you may forget you're even you or grow to hate yourself
ever look back on life years later and realize how much you've changed?
personally i think that's a good thing or eventually we'd just be robots that automatically resolve all questions with the same answers.
personally, i would argue that this is the point of reproduction
rather than salvage something that is radically damaged, it's easier to make a new one
you're eventually going to be replaced, no-matter what you do so isnt it just easier this way?
by my vague guess work, you're an entirely different person at least every 70 years anyway
just on thought pattern change, and the amount of lost / replaced body mass
if you let someone interact with you at 25 and again at 120, they would probably only see the vaguest similarities between those two people
you may look similar, even act somewhat similar but are you really the 'same' ?
it's too complicated a question to ever truly answer.
personally, i wouldn't want to try it
it may seem beneficial from a first glance but honestly i'm sure i'd just grow to hate everything i stand for
unless it were some 'magical' transformation that somehow kept me identical
and if that were the case i'd be forever stuck in stone with 21st century ideas in an ever evolving world
i would be a caveman, mocked and shunned for my beliefs
overall i'd say it would be a great gift for someone / something that had the mental discipline for it, but the average person / human ? not a chance.
for us it would become inescapable purgatory