In 8 days I leave for Army Basic Training.

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wilsonscrazybed

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"Don't do it!" Those were the words my mom said to me before shipping out to basic. If I had only listened!

But, since you're hell-bent on becoming a low paid member of the world's most heavily armed janitorial force, here is some realistic advice that I am not sure is applicable now.

10 situps, 15 pushups; be able to do them before you get shipped off to receiving. Failing to do the standard amount will mean you get held back until you can. Push ups are just as much practice as they are about upper arm strength, even well built guys were having difficulties with the first week of pushups.

Shave your head, all the way. They'll still give you a haircut your first week, but there will be a whole lot less hair for them to rip out of your head with those dull razors.

Before heading out put on a pair of plain grey or black sweat clothes and a pair of white sneakers, preferably new. The army will try to sell you a new set when you get there at some silly price.

Things to prepare for:

A battery of immunizations. Lots of shots, and a couple oral cocktails. You will probably get sick. They also fingerprint you and get your DNA.

A security interview. If you are working in a sensitive MOS you will probably need to do an interview. Be honest, they will ask you the same questions over and over again.

A bunch of crummy obstacle courses. These are super easy, just make sure you don't hurt yourself. Pace yourself. If you break your leg you'll spend an extra couple months in a training environment.

Gas chamber. You'll get hit with CS gas. Imagine snorting jalapeño pepper sauce, and rubbing it in your eyes. That's how it will feel, it's quite unpleasant. Effects are: loss of vision, massive amounts of snot, and vomiting up the chilli-mac they served your right before you went in.

Running, running, and more running. There are a lot of PT tests. Your drill's job is to make as many privates make it through the PT tests as they can. That means you'll need to run a 15 min 2 mile course, normally a track. If you're a weak runner start now, if you fail the final PT test you will be held back.

Communal showers. Fifty sweaty naked guys with fifteen minutes to all take shower. Not a place for drop the soap jokes.
 

Slycne

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Your first 4 weeks are what's referred to as Total Control. You will have a drill sergeant with you 24/7. If you can make it through that then it's no so bad really. The Infantry school I went through was a combined basis and AIT with the same drill sergeants. So separate basic and AIT might even be easier.

wilsonscrazybed hit a lot of good things. A few more off the top of my head.

Never call a drill sergeant Sir. Only the Marines refer to their drill instructors as sir. You will be down doing push ups and getting a speech about how "I am an enlisted non-commission....." if you do.

You won't show up day one at your barracks to your drill sergeants. So don't be terrified of the first one you see. You get sent to a hold area to finalize your medical and supplies first.

If you wear glasses or contacts be sure to request to use them for your rifle certification. The drill sergeants understand that the specs they provide you fog up easy and are in general not as good. Although for para-legal all you need to be concerned with is passing.

As someone who has been through it don't be afraid to ask if you have any other questions.
 

Ares Tyr

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Thanks Wilson and Slycne. That was pretty good advice. You both reinterated a few things I've already been told by my recruiter and my Father, but the whole Total Control thing and some of the other stuff was valuable. I'm in decent enough shape, I've passed every P.T. in RSP thus far, so I'm not to worried about that. In pretty bad shape I can murder about everyone else on the PT field. So being put in shape by the sergeants, I'm pretty confident I can pass PT without much trouble.

Apart from the immunizations and CS gas, I'm not to worried about anything. I'm not really scared of them as I'm just like "Man, I don't want to do that..."

And being that I'm a paralegal specialist, I'm sure I'm gonna be getting that interview. Ah well. 7 Days to go.
 

Haliwali

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Slycne post=18.72878.778162 said:
Never call a drill sergeant Sir. Only the Marines refer to their drill instructors as sir. You will be down doing push ups and getting a speech about how "I am an enlisted non-commission....." if you do.
Does that go for Navy as well? Sort nice to know for me...
 

Slycne

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Haliwali post=18.72878.779042 said:
Slycne post=18.72878.778162 said:
Never call a drill sergeant Sir. Only the Marines refer to their drill instructors as sir. You will be down doing push ups and getting a speech about how "I am an enlisted non-commission....." if you do.
Does that go for Navy as well? Sort nice to know for me...
I am pretty sure it's only a Marine's practice. In the Army you referred to your drill sergeants and 'Drill Sergeant' or if for some reason you saw them outside of that training scenario it was just 'Sergeant'.

Edit-
I tried looking it up and the only thing I could find so far is that the Navy has neither Drill Sergeants or Drill Instructors. They are called Recruit Division Commanders. They seem to be of enlisted rank so my best educated guess is that you simply refer to them as that rank.
 

smallharmlesskitten

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You never call anyone who doesn't have stripes on their shoulder 'Sir' Haliwali.

You got that. I spent some time as a Leading Cadet and got the shit yelled out of me for calling a Cheif Petty officer sir
 

Jumplion

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Well, I only have one request really.

Be sure to bring back stories of your adventures there when you get back!

If you get back that is....Oh i'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that, I know you're not going anywhere...
 

Ares Tyr

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Yes, I'm very confused by the amount of people who think that I'm either going to die or be raped in the shower. This isn't war I'm leaving to, nor is it a rough, uni-sex prison.
 

Lost In The Void

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Just get through it dude it's only the military how hard can it be? Seriously I have no idea lol jk have a good one stranger
 

Jamanticus

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Ares Tyr post=18.72878.780113 said:
Yes, I'm very confused by the amount of people who think that I'm either going to die or be raped in the shower. This isn't war I'm leaving to, nor is it a rough, uni-sex prison.
Just goes to show what kind of coverage the military gets in the media nowadays..... As a going away present (okay, I guess it's a rather crappy present), I shall add you as a friend, Ares Tyr. Not worth much, but oh well..... Maybe I'll throw in a fractal.......
 

SmugFrog

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smallharmlesskitten post=18.72878.779104 said:
I spent some time as a Leading Cadet and got the shit yelled out of me for calling a Chief Petty officer sir
Only anal people (or people in training) really do that. Working with Army, Air Force, and Marines, I have been called 'Sir' a lot by junior people - but I just brush it off. Hell, even some of the officers called me 'Sir'. It's just a sign of respect - how many people were brought up to call elders sir/ma'am? The common response in the Navy from enlisted is: "Don't call me Sir, I work for a living."

The last time it happened to me was a few years ago. I was confiscating an ID card for a Sergeant First Class' wife. He was pretty irate, and in trying to get him to calm down I said "Sir..." He responded "First off, I'm not a sir, I'm a Sergeant First Class..." A real jerk, like he had just put on SFC and thought he was "the man".

I told my wife about it later that evening, and she said "Well, if he said he wasn't a sir, did you ask him if he wanted to be called ma'am?"

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Slycne post=18.72878.779096 said:
I tried looking it up and the only thing I could find so far is that the Navy has neither Drill Sergeants or Drill Instructors. They are called Recruit Division Commanders. They seem to be of enlisted rank so my best educated guess is that you simply refer to them as that rank.
When I was in boot camp (1997), we called the RDCs 'sir'. That's kind of a screwed up training, because as soon as you leave boot camp you get yelled at for calling petty officers and CPOs 'sir'.
 

Duskwaith

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Good luck matey, good to see someone wanting to do college there willing to be shot at for a while.

Just be careful and keep your head down when the sh!t begins.
 

D0WNT0WN

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Since you have no way out (there goes my best advice)

Make Friends,
Use/Gain a good sense of humour,
Dont piss of your commanding officer,
Dont make friends with your commanding officer (nobody likes a suck up),

Thats all I got
 

werepossum

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Military people are the best ever. By serving you are saying that you believe in something so much, or want something so much, that you are willing to be bossed around, treated like crap, paid like crap, subject to discipline and training that otherwise would be criminal, and possibly sent to kill or die to support it or earn it. Plenty of times paralegals or nurse's aids or clerk-typists end up on the line or as a target; it's the chance, however small, that you agree to take when you sign up. Anyone who serves is to be admired and thanked.

So, thanks to you all!