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Flammablezeus

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I do find it strange to complain about having access to shovelware and then claiming that's a reason to move to Origin. There's nothing wrong with having the option to buy games that don't seem that great. We've always had that option in brick and mortar stores, yet I've never heard anybody use that as a reason not to go to them.

Plus there's that little detail of EA games often being unfinished, buggy, incredibly simplified and grossly overpriced. Basically, buying EA games (from my recent experiences) is more of a rip off than most of the "shovelware" on Steam.
 

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Bat Vader said:
If I was asked a month ago which one I liked more I would have said Steam. Now, I would have to say that I like both Steam and Origin equally. Sure, Steam has an entire community and market to it which is nice but I never visit any groups and only use the market to get rid of trash in my inventory.

Plus, Origin has had some good deals over the past couple of weeks. Goth both The Saboteur and Mercenaries 2: World In Flames for about eleven dollars.
there are like 100 deals every day on steam, literally, right now there are 136 games on sale, including the new splinter cell for 10 bucks and the wargame franchise
 

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Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Kurt Cristal said:
WILL EA CEASE ITS EVIL WAYS?
Well given that I still, apparently, need to purchase Bioware points in order to buy Mass Effect 3 DLC I'm going to go with 'No' with regards to your question. It's also worth noting (and I may just be retarded) but one has to go through either the game OR through Bioware Social in order to actually purchase the DLC. At the very least Steam streamlines the add-on process to the extent that it embarrasses EA in this regard.
You can buy it through the client. You choose which DLC you want and if you have the Bioware points it'll go straight through or it'll show you the points bundle instead. That's how it worked for me, didn't have to go through the game or Bioware social.
You still need 1. BioWare points (which is a bullshit concept) and 2. the client. I cannot buy the DLC directly through the website, hence why it'd be too much of a hassle. If you are telling me I have to go download a piece of software, so I can just make a purchase through it, and in order to do so I also need an imaginary currency which fuck knows how I can acquire (it's going to be more than 3-5 clicks, so it's really too much) then you can just forget that transaction.

I don't have anything against Origin[footnote]well, aside from apparently that thing with the DLC being buyable through the client but not on the website. Until I read that comment, I thought they didn't offer the DLC at all, which, in hindsight, seems better[/footnote] but it seems to just not have anything for me. Sure, Steam may have a lot of games but at least some of them are interesting.
So on Steam you have to add the item to the basket, then go to checkout, the click buy for myself/ as a gift, then put your security code (At least I do for the UK) then click the steam agreement and then click buy. On Origin it's basically the same thing except if you need Bioware points and you have none then it asks you to buy those first (without going to a separate page). Also, don't you need to download Steam to download the games as well?

Edit: Origin also has the Great game guarantee I think it's called where you can refund a game a week after buying it or 24 hours after first launching it unlike Steams policy of "We'll do it once but never again"
ugh, the garantee only works for EA games, so if you for instance were to buy watchdogs on origina and didnt like it, you are screwed

is really that piss poor guarantee policy worth so much?
 

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NuclearKangaroo said:
Bat Vader said:
If I was asked a month ago which one I liked more I would have said Steam. Now, I would have to say that I like both Steam and Origin equally. Sure, Steam has an entire community and market to it which is nice but I never visit any groups and only use the market to get rid of trash in my inventory.

Plus, Origin has had some good deals over the past couple of weeks. Goth both The Saboteur and Mercenaries 2: World In Flames for about eleven dollars.
there are like 100 deals every day on steam, literally, right now there are 136 games on sale, including the new splinter cell for 10 bucks and the wargame franchise
I know I check them every day. Most times though the games that are on sale I don't have an interest in playing. Bought the new Splinter Cell game already back in December during their winter sale.
 

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Bat Vader said:
NuclearKangaroo said:
Bat Vader said:
If I was asked a month ago which one I liked more I would have said Steam. Now, I would have to say that I like both Steam and Origin equally. Sure, Steam has an entire community and market to it which is nice but I never visit any groups and only use the market to get rid of trash in my inventory.

Plus, Origin has had some good deals over the past couple of weeks. Goth both The Saboteur and Mercenaries 2: World In Flames for about eleven dollars.
there are like 100 deals every day on steam, literally, right now there are 136 games on sale, including the new splinter cell for 10 bucks and the wargame franchise
I know I check them every day. Most times though the games that are on sale I don't have an interest in playing. Bought the new Splinter Cell game already back in December during their winter sale.
uhmp... there you have it

honestly origin sales cant even compare to gog.com and steam sales, in my opinion

i might have been a little to agressive in my post, sorry if i came off that way, but i feel people are critizing steam unfairly here, critizing the service for opening the doors a few years back many devs and customers were asking to open, and giving EA way too much credit, speaking wonders of EA's refund policy, which, while a step in the right direction, is incredibly limited, its only a 24 hour guarantee and it only applies to EA games
 

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Flammablezeus said:
I do find it strange to complain about having access to shovelware and then claiming that's a reason to move to Origin. There's nothing wrong with having the option to buy games that don't seem that great. We've always had that option in brick and mortar stores, yet I've never heard anybody use that as a reason not to go to them.
This is what baffles me most about the incessant bitching lately about "Steam letting too many games in". Well, that and not even a year ago many of these same people were bitching that Steam wasn't letting in enough games.

I always hear, "But I like to peruse the store, looking for an interesting game I might not have known about! I can't do that in Steam anymore because there's too many crappy games!"

What, as opposed to perusing the shelves of a brick and mortar store and wading through the shovelware they have on tap until you (potentially) find that one gem? At least Steam has search filters. Can't say the same of my local Gamestop.

It truly boggles my mind.

Plus there's that little detail of EA games often being unfinished, buggy, incredibly simplified and grossly overpriced. Basically, buying EA games (from my recent experiences) is more of a rip off than most of the "shovelware" on Steam.
Simcity, Battlefield 4, and Dungeon Keeper are certainly proof of this.
 

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It amazes me how people concern themselves with which icon they have to click on before they launch their game.

One exception though. Battlefield. Open one launcher only to open another browser based launcher? Man that is just stupid. Put it in the game or integrate it into Origin.
 

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Man that sells Origin by itself!

Kurt Cristal said:
Origin: Better than Uplay! Bam!
Sorry, EA just can't compete. Except when it comes to the "bury your head in the sand and not listen to players. Ever." game that all companies play. EA is just too good.

ps Simcity
pss BF4
 

Bat Vader

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NuclearKangaroo said:
Bat Vader said:
NuclearKangaroo said:
Bat Vader said:
If I was asked a month ago which one I liked more I would have said Steam. Now, I would have to say that I like both Steam and Origin equally. Sure, Steam has an entire community and market to it which is nice but I never visit any groups and only use the market to get rid of trash in my inventory.

Plus, Origin has had some good deals over the past couple of weeks. Goth both The Saboteur and Mercenaries 2: World In Flames for about eleven dollars.
there are like 100 deals every day on steam, literally, right now there are 136 games on sale, including the new splinter cell for 10 bucks and the wargame franchise
I know I check them every day. Most times though the games that are on sale I don't have an interest in playing. Bought the new Splinter Cell game already back in December during their winter sale.
uhmp... there you have it

honestly origin sales cant even compare to gog.com and steam sales, in my opinion

i might have been a little to agressive in my post, sorry if i came off that way, but i feel people are critizing steam unfairly here, critizing the service for opening the doors a few years back many devs and customers were asking to open, and giving EA way too much credit, speaking wonders of EA's refund policy, which, while a step in the right direction, is incredibly limited, its only a 24 hour guarantee and it only applies to EA games
Personally between all three of them I think Good Old Games is the best because of their no DRM in the games they sell. Sure, I dislike some of the stuff EA does but I don't let that dislike get into the way of the stuff they sell. I try to judge things separately. I don't mind giving my money to EA, UbiSoft, Activision, ETC as long as what they are selling is worth it to me.

EA's refund policy is nice because it forces competition. If they didn't implement it Steam may have never implemented the cancel pre-order thing. Now all Steam and Origin needs to do is make a trade games or sell pre-owned digital games service which would be great.
 

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Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Kurt Cristal said:
WILL EA CEASE ITS EVIL WAYS?
Well given that I still, apparently, need to purchase Bioware points in order to buy Mass Effect 3 DLC I'm going to go with 'No' with regards to your question. It's also worth noting (and I may just be retarded) but one has to go through either the game OR through Bioware Social in order to actually purchase the DLC. At the very least Steam streamlines the add-on process to the extent that it embarrasses EA in this regard.
You can buy it through the client. You choose which DLC you want and if you have the Bioware points it'll go straight through or it'll show you the points bundle instead. That's how it worked for me, didn't have to go through the game or Bioware social.
You still need 1. BioWare points (which is a bullshit concept) and 2. the client. I cannot buy the DLC directly through the website, hence why it'd be too much of a hassle. If you are telling me I have to go download a piece of software, so I can just make a purchase through it, and in order to do so I also need an imaginary currency which fuck knows how I can acquire (it's going to be more than 3-5 clicks, so it's really too much) then you can just forget that transaction.

I don't have anything against Origin[footnote]well, aside from apparently that thing with the DLC being buyable through the client but not on the website. Until I read that comment, I thought they didn't offer the DLC at all, which, in hindsight, seems better[/footnote] but it seems to just not have anything for me. Sure, Steam may have a lot of games but at least some of them are interesting.
So on Steam you have to add the item to the basket, then go to checkout, the click buy for myself/ as a gift, then put your security code (At least I do for the UK) then click the steam agreement and then click buy. On Origin it's basically the same thing except if you need Bioware points and you have none then it asks you to buy those first (without going to a separate page). Also, don't you need to download Steam to download the games as well?
Again, you need the client to get the DLC on Origin, you cannot just shop them online. Which is exactly what I said in my post and sort of the biggest thing, and yet you chose to ignore in your response. I shop through a browser, because I can and because it's more convenient. Therefore, installing a client only to get a "meh, I might play it at some point. Maybe" game is too much of a bother.

And yes, you do need to install Steam. I would happily install Origin, if I have games for it. Since there is, like, one game on there currently I'm mildly interested in it, and I need to install Origin to get it on Origin, but I won't actually play it on Origin right now...erm, I really don't see the point.

Also, you don't need to put in your security code again with Steam, unless you are buying stuff from a new machine or something.
 

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DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Kurt Cristal said:
WILL EA CEASE ITS EVIL WAYS?
Well given that I still, apparently, need to purchase Bioware points in order to buy Mass Effect 3 DLC I'm going to go with 'No' with regards to your question. It's also worth noting (and I may just be retarded) but one has to go through either the game OR through Bioware Social in order to actually purchase the DLC. At the very least Steam streamlines the add-on process to the extent that it embarrasses EA in this regard.
You can buy it through the client. You choose which DLC you want and if you have the Bioware points it'll go straight through or it'll show you the points bundle instead. That's how it worked for me, didn't have to go through the game or Bioware social.
You still need 1. BioWare points (which is a bullshit concept) and 2. the client. I cannot buy the DLC directly through the website, hence why it'd be too much of a hassle. If you are telling me I have to go download a piece of software, so I can just make a purchase through it, and in order to do so I also need an imaginary currency which fuck knows how I can acquire (it's going to be more than 3-5 clicks, so it's really too much) then you can just forget that transaction.

I don't have anything against Origin[footnote]well, aside from apparently that thing with the DLC being buyable through the client but not on the website. Until I read that comment, I thought they didn't offer the DLC at all, which, in hindsight, seems better[/footnote] but it seems to just not have anything for me. Sure, Steam may have a lot of games but at least some of them are interesting.
So on Steam you have to add the item to the basket, then go to checkout, the click buy for myself/ as a gift, then put your security code (At least I do for the UK) then click the steam agreement and then click buy. On Origin it's basically the same thing except if you need Bioware points and you have none then it asks you to buy those first (without going to a separate page). Also, don't you need to download Steam to download the games as well?
Again, you need the client to get the DLC on Origin, you cannot just shop them online. Which is exactly what I said in my post and sort of the biggest thing, and yet you chose to ignore in your response. I shop through a browser, because I can and because it's more convenient. Therefore, installing a client only to get a "meh, I might play it at some point. Maybe" game is too much of a bother.

And yes, you do need to install Steam. I would happily install Origin, if I have games for it. Since there is, like, one game on there currently I'm mildly interested in it, and I need to install Origin to get it on Origin, but I won't actually play it on Origin right now...erm, I really don't see the point.

Also, you don't need to put in your security code again with Steam, unless you are buying stuff from a new machine or something.
Yeah it is annoying that you can't buy the DLC on the website but why would you need to? If you're buying DLC you already have the game and chances are it's already installed so you already have the client.
 

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NuclearKangaroo said:
Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Kurt Cristal said:
WILL EA CEASE ITS EVIL WAYS?
Well given that I still, apparently, need to purchase Bioware points in order to buy Mass Effect 3 DLC I'm going to go with 'No' with regards to your question. It's also worth noting (and I may just be retarded) but one has to go through either the game OR through Bioware Social in order to actually purchase the DLC. At the very least Steam streamlines the add-on process to the extent that it embarrasses EA in this regard.
You can buy it through the client. You choose which DLC you want and if you have the Bioware points it'll go straight through or it'll show you the points bundle instead. That's how it worked for me, didn't have to go through the game or Bioware social.
You still need 1. BioWare points (which is a bullshit concept) and 2. the client. I cannot buy the DLC directly through the website, hence why it'd be too much of a hassle. If you are telling me I have to go download a piece of software, so I can just make a purchase through it, and in order to do so I also need an imaginary currency which fuck knows how I can acquire (it's going to be more than 3-5 clicks, so it's really too much) then you can just forget that transaction.

I don't have anything against Origin[footnote]well, aside from apparently that thing with the DLC being buyable through the client but not on the website. Until I read that comment, I thought they didn't offer the DLC at all, which, in hindsight, seems better[/footnote] but it seems to just not have anything for me. Sure, Steam may have a lot of games but at least some of them are interesting.
So on Steam you have to add the item to the basket, then go to checkout, the click buy for myself/ as a gift, then put your security code (At least I do for the UK) then click the steam agreement and then click buy. On Origin it's basically the same thing except if you need Bioware points and you have none then it asks you to buy those first (without going to a separate page). Also, don't you need to download Steam to download the games as well?

Edit: Origin also has the Great game guarantee I think it's called where you can refund a game a week after buying it or 24 hours after first launching it unlike Steams policy of "We'll do it once but never again"
ugh, the garantee only works for EA games, so if you for instance were to buy watchdogs on origina and didnt like it, you are screwed

is really that piss poor guarantee policy worth so much?
Something is better than nothing.
 

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Jiffex said:
NuclearKangaroo said:
Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Kurt Cristal said:
WILL EA CEASE ITS EVIL WAYS?
Well given that I still, apparently, need to purchase Bioware points in order to buy Mass Effect 3 DLC I'm going to go with 'No' with regards to your question. It's also worth noting (and I may just be retarded) but one has to go through either the game OR through Bioware Social in order to actually purchase the DLC. At the very least Steam streamlines the add-on process to the extent that it embarrasses EA in this regard.
You can buy it through the client. You choose which DLC you want and if you have the Bioware points it'll go straight through or it'll show you the points bundle instead. That's how it worked for me, didn't have to go through the game or Bioware social.
You still need 1. BioWare points (which is a bullshit concept) and 2. the client. I cannot buy the DLC directly through the website, hence why it'd be too much of a hassle. If you are telling me I have to go download a piece of software, so I can just make a purchase through it, and in order to do so I also need an imaginary currency which fuck knows how I can acquire (it's going to be more than 3-5 clicks, so it's really too much) then you can just forget that transaction.

I don't have anything against Origin[footnote]well, aside from apparently that thing with the DLC being buyable through the client but not on the website. Until I read that comment, I thought they didn't offer the DLC at all, which, in hindsight, seems better[/footnote] but it seems to just not have anything for me. Sure, Steam may have a lot of games but at least some of them are interesting.
So on Steam you have to add the item to the basket, then go to checkout, the click buy for myself/ as a gift, then put your security code (At least I do for the UK) then click the steam agreement and then click buy. On Origin it's basically the same thing except if you need Bioware points and you have none then it asks you to buy those first (without going to a separate page). Also, don't you need to download Steam to download the games as well?

Edit: Origin also has the Great game guarantee I think it's called where you can refund a game a week after buying it or 24 hours after first launching it unlike Steams policy of "We'll do it once but never again"
ugh, the garantee only works for EA games, so if you for instance were to buy watchdogs on origina and didnt like it, you are screwed

is really that piss poor guarantee policy worth so much?
Something is better than nothing.
maybe so, but honestly ive used all the other great features steam has more times than i have ever needed a refund from a Valve game, or a refund in general for that matter
 

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Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Kurt Cristal said:
WILL EA CEASE ITS EVIL WAYS?
Well given that I still, apparently, need to purchase Bioware points in order to buy Mass Effect 3 DLC I'm going to go with 'No' with regards to your question. It's also worth noting (and I may just be retarded) but one has to go through either the game OR through Bioware Social in order to actually purchase the DLC. At the very least Steam streamlines the add-on process to the extent that it embarrasses EA in this regard.
You can buy it through the client. You choose which DLC you want and if you have the Bioware points it'll go straight through or it'll show you the points bundle instead. That's how it worked for me, didn't have to go through the game or Bioware social.
You still need 1. BioWare points (which is a bullshit concept) and 2. the client. I cannot buy the DLC directly through the website, hence why it'd be too much of a hassle. If you are telling me I have to go download a piece of software, so I can just make a purchase through it, and in order to do so I also need an imaginary currency which fuck knows how I can acquire (it's going to be more than 3-5 clicks, so it's really too much) then you can just forget that transaction.

I don't have anything against Origin[footnote]well, aside from apparently that thing with the DLC being buyable through the client but not on the website. Until I read that comment, I thought they didn't offer the DLC at all, which, in hindsight, seems better[/footnote] but it seems to just not have anything for me. Sure, Steam may have a lot of games but at least some of them are interesting.
So on Steam you have to add the item to the basket, then go to checkout, the click buy for myself/ as a gift, then put your security code (At least I do for the UK) then click the steam agreement and then click buy. On Origin it's basically the same thing except if you need Bioware points and you have none then it asks you to buy those first (without going to a separate page). Also, don't you need to download Steam to download the games as well?
Again, you need the client to get the DLC on Origin, you cannot just shop them online. Which is exactly what I said in my post and sort of the biggest thing, and yet you chose to ignore in your response. I shop through a browser, because I can and because it's more convenient. Therefore, installing a client only to get a "meh, I might play it at some point. Maybe" game is too much of a bother.

And yes, you do need to install Steam. I would happily install Origin, if I have games for it. Since there is, like, one game on there currently I'm mildly interested in it, and I need to install Origin to get it on Origin, but I won't actually play it on Origin right now...erm, I really don't see the point.

Also, you don't need to put in your security code again with Steam, unless you are buying stuff from a new machine or something.
Yeah it is annoying that you can't buy the DLC on the website but why would you need to? If you're buying DLC you already have the game and chances are it's already installed so you already have the client.
But I don't have the game. Seriously, are you keeping track of what I already said at all? I don't have it because I can't buy the DLC with the game. I can't buy the DLC with the game, because I need to install the client to get the DLC and the game together in one go. But I don't want to do that, because I want the game with the DLC first. Which, since I can't acquire through the website in one go, I don't want to bother with.

I might give it a go if I had another game on Origin, but I don't because the selection is seriously lacking, with only ME3 that vaguely interests me. And thus we come full circle - Origin barely has anything to offer me, and the only thing it does, it cannot interest me enough in to even buy it.
 

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DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Kurt Cristal said:
WILL EA CEASE ITS EVIL WAYS?
Well given that I still, apparently, need to purchase Bioware points in order to buy Mass Effect 3 DLC I'm going to go with 'No' with regards to your question. It's also worth noting (and I may just be retarded) but one has to go through either the game OR through Bioware Social in order to actually purchase the DLC. At the very least Steam streamlines the add-on process to the extent that it embarrasses EA in this regard.
You can buy it through the client. You choose which DLC you want and if you have the Bioware points it'll go straight through or it'll show you the points bundle instead. That's how it worked for me, didn't have to go through the game or Bioware social.
You still need 1. BioWare points (which is a bullshit concept) and 2. the client. I cannot buy the DLC directly through the website, hence why it'd be too much of a hassle. If you are telling me I have to go download a piece of software, so I can just make a purchase through it, and in order to do so I also need an imaginary currency which fuck knows how I can acquire (it's going to be more than 3-5 clicks, so it's really too much) then you can just forget that transaction.

I don't have anything against Origin[footnote]well, aside from apparently that thing with the DLC being buyable through the client but not on the website. Until I read that comment, I thought they didn't offer the DLC at all, which, in hindsight, seems better[/footnote] but it seems to just not have anything for me. Sure, Steam may have a lot of games but at least some of them are interesting.
So on Steam you have to add the item to the basket, then go to checkout, the click buy for myself/ as a gift, then put your security code (At least I do for the UK) then click the steam agreement and then click buy. On Origin it's basically the same thing except if you need Bioware points and you have none then it asks you to buy those first (without going to a separate page). Also, don't you need to download Steam to download the games as well?
Again, you need the client to get the DLC on Origin, you cannot just shop them online. Which is exactly what I said in my post and sort of the biggest thing, and yet you chose to ignore in your response. I shop through a browser, because I can and because it's more convenient. Therefore, installing a client only to get a "meh, I might play it at some point. Maybe" game is too much of a bother.

And yes, you do need to install Steam. I would happily install Origin, if I have games for it. Since there is, like, one game on there currently I'm mildly interested in it, and I need to install Origin to get it on Origin, but I won't actually play it on Origin right now...erm, I really don't see the point.

Also, you don't need to put in your security code again with Steam, unless you are buying stuff from a new machine or something.
Yeah it is annoying that you can't buy the DLC on the website but why would you need to? If you're buying DLC you already have the game and chances are it's already installed so you already have the client.
But I don't have the game. Seriously, are you keeping track of what I already said at all? I don't have it because I can't buy the DLC with the game. I can't buy the DLC with the game, because I need to install the client to get the DLC and the game together in one go. But I don't want to do that, because I want the game with the DLC first. Which, since I can't acquire through the website in one go, I don't want to bother with.

I might give it a go if I had another game on Origin, but I don't because the selection is seriously lacking, with only ME3 that vaguely interests me. And thus we come full circle - Origin barely has anything to offer me, and the only thing it does, it cannot interest me enough in to even buy it.
Well you can buy the Mass Effect dlc on the Bioware site but you still need Bioware Points for PC which is still silly. It just doesn't make much sense to me,you want a game but because the dlc can't be bought on the main site but can be bought by using the client that's needed to play the game anyway but you don't want download the client?

Edit: It's only the Bioware games dlc that isn't available on the Origin site but all other dlc looks like it is.
 

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Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
DoPo said:
Jiffex said:
ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Kurt Cristal said:
WILL EA CEASE ITS EVIL WAYS?
Well given that I still, apparently, need to purchase Bioware points in order to buy Mass Effect 3 DLC I'm going to go with 'No' with regards to your question. It's also worth noting (and I may just be retarded) but one has to go through either the game OR through Bioware Social in order to actually purchase the DLC. At the very least Steam streamlines the add-on process to the extent that it embarrasses EA in this regard.
You can buy it through the client. You choose which DLC you want and if you have the Bioware points it'll go straight through or it'll show you the points bundle instead. That's how it worked for me, didn't have to go through the game or Bioware social.
You still need 1. BioWare points (which is a bullshit concept) and 2. the client. I cannot buy the DLC directly through the website, hence why it'd be too much of a hassle. If you are telling me I have to go download a piece of software, so I can just make a purchase through it, and in order to do so I also need an imaginary currency which fuck knows how I can acquire (it's going to be more than 3-5 clicks, so it's really too much) then you can just forget that transaction.

I don't have anything against Origin[footnote]well, aside from apparently that thing with the DLC being buyable through the client but not on the website. Until I read that comment, I thought they didn't offer the DLC at all, which, in hindsight, seems better[/footnote] but it seems to just not have anything for me. Sure, Steam may have a lot of games but at least some of them are interesting.
So on Steam you have to add the item to the basket, then go to checkout, the click buy for myself/ as a gift, then put your security code (At least I do for the UK) then click the steam agreement and then click buy. On Origin it's basically the same thing except if you need Bioware points and you have none then it asks you to buy those first (without going to a separate page). Also, don't you need to download Steam to download the games as well?
Again, you need the client to get the DLC on Origin, you cannot just shop them online. Which is exactly what I said in my post and sort of the biggest thing, and yet you chose to ignore in your response. I shop through a browser, because I can and because it's more convenient. Therefore, installing a client only to get a "meh, I might play it at some point. Maybe" game is too much of a bother.

And yes, you do need to install Steam. I would happily install Origin, if I have games for it. Since there is, like, one game on there currently I'm mildly interested in it, and I need to install Origin to get it on Origin, but I won't actually play it on Origin right now...erm, I really don't see the point.

Also, you don't need to put in your security code again with Steam, unless you are buying stuff from a new machine or something.
Yeah it is annoying that you can't buy the DLC on the website but why would you need to? If you're buying DLC you already have the game and chances are it's already installed so you already have the client.
But I don't have the game. Seriously, are you keeping track of what I already said at all? I don't have it because I can't buy the DLC with the game. I can't buy the DLC with the game, because I need to install the client to get the DLC and the game together in one go. But I don't want to do that, because I want the game with the DLC first. Which, since I can't acquire through the website in one go, I don't want to bother with.

I might give it a go if I had another game on Origin, but I don't because the selection is seriously lacking, with only ME3 that vaguely interests me. And thus we come full circle - Origin barely has anything to offer me, and the only thing it does, it cannot interest me enough in to even buy it.
Well you can buy the Mass Effect dlc on the Bioware site but you still need Bioware Points for PC which is still silly. It just doesn't make much sense to me,you want a game but because the dlc can't be bought on the main site but can be bought by using the client that's needed to play the game anyway but you don't want download the client?
Yes, we indeed are going in circles. This is indeed the initial thing I said and apparently had to clarify several times. And here we go again. I can't be bothered with installing the client to buy the entire game with everything. Getting the game with the DLC is not worth the hassle. How else do you want me to rephrase that? Spending 5-10 extra minutes to buy one game is 5-10 extra minutes I don't want to spend because I feel it'd be a waste. The extra effort in acquiring the game and DLCs cannot overcome my inherent lazyness. The endeavour demanded to gain the computerized game along with the extra content, which can be downloaded, is superfluous to the return value. The spurt prerequisite for procuring the non-tangible computer component used for entertainment, supplemented with the over-and-above packing (transferable using the Information Highway), is taxing. The .

And again - I don't need to install the client if I won't play the game now. Even if I buy it, I won't be playing it now. However, I cannot buy it without getting the client. As I hope I explained above, I do not want to do that, for I do not think the strain caused can justify the return gained.

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Edit: It's only the Bioware games dlc that isn't available on the Origin site but all other dlc looks like it is.
And yet again, ME3 is the only game I am vaguely interested in from Origin. Maybe you can enlighten me why should I care how they sell the other DLC but even then I doubt I would.
 

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But I don't have the game. Seriously, are you keeping track of what I already said at all? I don't have it because I can't buy the DLC with the game. I can't buy the DLC with the game, because I need to install the client to get the DLC and the game together in one go. But I don't want to do that, because I want the game with the DLC first. Which, since I can't acquire through the website in one go, I don't want to bother with.
I wasn't going to get involved here, but... https://social.bioware.com/page/me3-dlc
You can buy the ME3 dlc's on that website.
 

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Yeah, I'm not saying it's right or anything just that the option is there. I hate the whole points thing but I wonder if that's to do with Bioware instead of EA seeing as it's only their games that have points instead of actual money as far as I know.
No idea whose fault the points are but that shit needs to stop. Also it currently works out that the relevant DLC for ME3 (Leviathan, Omega, Citadel; i.e. the single player add-ons) currently cost 2x as much as the standard edition (price from EA) of the base game. As a wise man once said: fuck that.
 

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Between its interface not having a "see all discounts" option and its selection being almost limited to EA games, I doubt I will spend a cent on the service, unless Titanfall 2 comes out with a campaign and exclusivity.