Wow, I love it when these threads turn up. They surface on average about once a month, and every time they do I always discover great music I've never heard of before.Illesdan said:So, my fellow Escapists, who, in your opinion, is the worst musical act ever?
To entertain me, that's why. Thanks for introducing me to Blood On The Dance Floor, that's awesome. I had your video on repeat while I was cooking dinner just now.PastTheFeeling said:[awesomeness snipped]
Why do they exsist.
I agree with you. I'm being no more elitist than anybody else in this thread.Malicious Heart said:Don't you think you're being elitist?
Who are you to look down upon the musical tastes of others?
Music is a purely subjective experience and you have no right to decide what musical taste is "the right one"
TU4AR said:Maybe they have working ears, iunno.BonsaiK said:To entertain me, that's why. Thanks for introducing me to Blood On The Dance Floor, that's awesome. I had your video on repeat while I was cooking dinner just now.
I also struggle to get my head around why anybody would hate Millionaires, Brokencyde or Hello Kitty Suicide Club. I keep forgetting that I'm on a games website, not a music fan's website. I suppose each to their own.
Also read "music fan" as "music snob", I assume.
Both of these replies are essentially the same reply so I'll deal with them together.Malicious Heart said:Ah, you were being sarcastic then?BonsaiK said:I agree with you. I'm being no more elitist than anybody else in this thread.Malicious Heart said:Don't you think you're being elitist?
Who are you to look down upon the musical tastes of others?
Music is a purely subjective experience and you have no right to decide what musical taste is "the right one"
If not:
I also struggle to get my head around why anybody would hate Millionaires, Brokencyde or Hello Kitty Suicide Club. I keep forgetting that I'm on a games website, not a music fan's website. I suppose each to their own.
Sounds pretty elitist to me.
My point is more that someone who actually liked music might be open to more things than someone for whom music wasn't a primary interest. So rather than suggesting a music fan would like what I like (which is theoretically possible but highly unlikely in practice), I'm instead suggesting that someone who didn't really care much about music would potentially not like certain types of music based on ideas and concepts that have absolutely nothing to do with music itself. There are a lot of manifestations of that type of thinking in popular culture, like the dichotomy between "straight-edge" punks and people who abhor that type of scene, or christian vs. satanic heavy metal. In each case the music becomes so subsumed in the attached meanings and the larger anthropological context that people actually stop listening to the music. I'm arguing that this is happening on this forum with Brokencyde, Millionaires, etc. Of course, that's fine, because music means different things to different people. I just don't call these people "music fans", because to me they're not - they're fans of something else, something a bit more broad than the actual music, and that's something I know about all too well because I experience it every day. That's not a criticism though, and I think where we're talking past each other a little is that you're assuming a qualitative aspect to my use of the term "music fan" that isn't actually intended. To me the term "music fan" doesn't carry any intrinsic value, positive or negative, it's just a descriptive term.TU4AR said:So it's fine for you to question, and even insult other people's musical tastes, but when someone calls you out on it, you make a big empassioned speech about the subjectivity of music? Really? And implying that a music "fan" would like your sort of music is elitism. Deal with it. You've said it, stop trying to pretend you've said something else.
But they do care about plenty of things and that's exactly the point.TU4AR said:But to anyone with a proper grasp of the english language, it does. A music "fan" would know and understand music more, thus implying his taste is more refined, and under some interpretations, more correct. And I'm pretty sure you've just implied that people who don't like your sort of music aren't real fans of music, as if your taste is the only taste. Which, again, is elitist. Your point was never that. You made your point up a post ago when you were challenged.BonsaiK said:My point is more that someone who actually liked music might be open to more things than someone for whom music wasn't a primary interest. So rather than suggesting a music fan would like what I like (which is theoretically possible but highly unlikely in practice), I'm instead suggesting that someone who didn't really care much about music would potentially not like certain types of music based on ideas and concepts that have absolutely nothing to do with music itself. There are a lot of manifestations of that type of thinking in popular culture, like the dichotomy between "straight-edge" punks and people who abhor that type of scene, or christian vs. satanic heavy metal. In each case the music becomes so subsumed in the attached meanings and the larger anthropological context that people actually stop listening to the music. I'm arguing that this is happening on this forum with Brokencyde, Millionaires, etc. Of course, that's fine, because music means different things to different people. I just don't call these people "music fans", because to me they're not - they're fans of something else, something a bit more broad than the actual music, and that's something I know about all too well because I experience it every day. That's not a criticism though, and I think where we're talking past each other a little is that you're assuming a qualitative aspect to my use of the term "music fan" that isn't actually intended. To me the term "music fan" doesn't carry any intrinsic value, positive or negative, it's just a descriptive term.
Maybe people don't like your music because it sounds unappealing to them. Maybe noone gives a shit about the lables or meanings and just don't like the way it sounds. But you like it, so that coudln't be right, could it?
And just for the record, people who care less about music tend to be more open, because, you know, they don't care and all.
Dear God NO! First time I tried to load this, adobe crashed. True Story.Kasurami said:
These kids. Oh God.