Ooh, they should be in there as well! Haven't you ever wanted to see those peta-tards getting torn to shreds by ravenous creatures? Now you could actually do it yourself!FallenJellyDoughnut said:
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I'm not sure what you mean by "visceral graphics" to be honest. It's an interesting concept but I don't see what the aim would be? Wolf simulator? Does it have a story beyond survival? Is there some sort of moral to be made? As I said, it's a concept that's interesting enough, but I can't actually imagine a way to make this concept "fun".
I pulled from a lot of different elements for inspiration, the least of which is assassin creed. I like the primal feeling that the Alien campaign on the new AVP game evokes. Along with that there have been several games which incorporate animals, Dead to Rights: Retribution has short parts where you get to play as Shadow (Jack's dog) and rip the guts out of criminals. World at War you could call in dog attacks in MP. Fallout 3 you get Dogmeat.
I like the idea of encroaching on human territory, a sort of Nature-strikes-back campaign. As I mentioned before, such a game would need a plot driven campaign, the average life of a wolf (or any animal) is probably too boring to make a feasible video game from. As such it would call for a larger-than-life protagonist (the player) in an adventure which requires the Wolf to think and act in ways that, in real life, it could not. I am boiling some plot devices over in my mind now.
As for gameplay, I think that Thief II had the stealth genre correct, Assassin's Creed had sprawling maps, although little else noteable other than storyline. AVP I loved for it's mix of 3 races so seemlessly, along with 3 methods of kill; Stealth, Ranged weapons, and Melee. In a game which would focus entirely on melee the controls would have to be a lot more intuitive then quick attack, power attack, block, and counter.
I do think that certain survival elements would make the game more interesting, but a majority of these elements are present in every action game. If you had to wait for healing to take place in real time that would lag down the game too much, and the auto-regen shit is retarded. I was thinking that you could eat to restore health, however becuase chomping is something you will be doing a LOT in this game the amount of health restored cannot be too large. This will force players to strategize thier attacks, use stealth, and at time to also use thier influence over the pack, thus overwhelming with numbers. Members of the pack lost during battle, stay dead, although it is possible to find new members (or create them) but both of these methods are not instant.
I like the idea of encroaching on human territory, a sort of Nature-strikes-back campaign. As I mentioned before, such a game would need a plot driven campaign, the average life of a wolf (or any animal) is probably too boring to make a feasible video game from. As such it would call for a larger-than-life protagonist (the player) in an adventure which requires the Wolf to think and act in ways that, in real life, it could not. I am boiling some plot devices over in my mind now.
As for gameplay, I think that Thief II had the stealth genre correct, Assassin's Creed had sprawling maps, although little else noteable other than storyline. AVP I loved for it's mix of 3 races so seemlessly, along with 3 methods of kill; Stealth, Ranged weapons, and Melee. In a game which would focus entirely on melee the controls would have to be a lot more intuitive then quick attack, power attack, block, and counter.
I do think that certain survival elements would make the game more interesting, but a majority of these elements are present in every action game. If you had to wait for healing to take place in real time that would lag down the game too much, and the auto-regen shit is retarded. I was thinking that you could eat to restore health, however becuase chomping is something you will be doing a LOT in this game the amount of health restored cannot be too large. This will force players to strategize thier attacks, use stealth, and at time to also use thier influence over the pack, thus overwhelming with numbers. Members of the pack lost during battle, stay dead, although it is possible to find new members (or create them) but both of these methods are not instant.
This does sound really interesting. I like the idea of the stealth element, plus, you could possibly cram a fighter element in there, in the form of "dominance battles" with other wolves for Alpha rank, or even against another pack.
This^...I would have to ask is it an MMO or campaign? I'm not in to MMOs, that's why I asked. As for improvements...I'd say giving the player a choice between different animals to play as, stat building (though I'm assuming you already thought of that and just forgot to mention it), and some story...like, encroaching humans (land developers, hunters, whatever)...that brings to mind the scene from Bambi where Bambi's mother died. Imagine getting to go primal on that hunter if you were Bambi.Carbonic Penguin said:
Edit: I was unaware of the below post when I posted.
MikeTheMugger" post="18.203399.6796428 said:
First of all, this would definetly NOT be an MMO. I would never cater to the mind melting, mission grinding BS of an MMO.
That said, if mystical ( or science-fictional) forces are at work, there are even more options to choose from. Animals may be evolving in ways which allow them to communicate on some level.
Alternatively I was thinking of allowing the PC to play as a creature which can change forms from one animal type to another, as needed, to aquire new forms you would need to hunt and kill them. Each form would have a tactical advantage (and disadvantage) to balance their use.
A stat system would certainly be an aspect of the game, although how it would affect you and how you gain exp is still in the works for me...
My ideas regarding this are a bit mixed. The storyline behind this game would be a largely territorial or pack related one. ie. your pack incures losses becuase humans are encroaching on your land, hunting your offspring and your game (making it harder to survive). Including other animals into the fray, to play as, would be interesting, but make the storyline complex and possibly very hard to digest. This may take the game to the level of "mystical forces" where nature becomes a sentient force that can combine it's resources to strike back at man when he becomes too dangerous. While I wouldn't axe a game which teeter's on a alternate(if druid like) reality, taking such extremes would limit the number of poeple who cold find such a game appealing.SirDeadly said:
That said, if mystical ( or science-fictional) forces are at work, there are even more options to choose from. Animals may be evolving in ways which allow them to communicate on some level.
Alternatively I was thinking of allowing the PC to play as a creature which can change forms from one animal type to another, as needed, to aquire new forms you would need to hunt and kill them. Each form would have a tactical advantage (and disadvantage) to balance their use.
A stat system would certainly be an aspect of the game, although how it would affect you and how you gain exp is still in the works for me...
Maybe your wolf could evade some hunters or something? Interesting IP and I hope that this will be made into a game. Who doesnt like wolves? Also maybe integrate packs online, similar to the posse system for red dead redemption.MikeTheMugger said:
Sounds like an interesting enough idea, espcially if you can change what animal you are! and what not.
I like the idea of being able to co-op with friends online, maybe even whole packs of freinds. The difficulty setting of the AI could be linked to the number of active players, to even out the challenge so it doesn't become too easy.neilsaccount said:
Also, a bit off gameplay and something on the note of game atmosphere; what about soundtracks? I think some Native American war drums would be suitable for combat. I know this may seem redundant, but somehow KSE or Breaking Benjamin just don't fit this type of game. Any ideas?
I was thinking that you should be able to switch between 1st and 3rd person as you like, with a simple button press. Also, sense dogs have much keener vision than humans, a slight zoom function and a nightvision button as well. True dog sight is black&white, but for the sake of gaming, the ability to switch between nightvision and color is essential.
Also this game would emphasize not on your average wolves, but a pack of wolves that has evolved to be smarter, and better adapted to survive against thier greatest threat (that would be us humans).
And as I mentioned before; there will be a stat system. Prehaps a skill tree to decide which strageis suite you best. Intelligence/ Charisma for better use of your environment, the ability to flip switches, disarm traps, and disarm humans, pull the pin off a grenade etc; increased ability to orchestrate an attack using your pack, better control over your pack, less battles for dominance once you have attained Alpha-status.
Strength/Constitution/Dexterity would all have the usual effects on your attack power/ biting strength, stamina and health/suseptiblity to pioson/gas/tranquilizers, dexterity may allow you to bite specific areas of the body on cue (ie. bite for unarmored or weak points on armored targets) and increase running speed and stealth abilities.
Perks may be handy also, similar to FO3, maybe a coat of fur wich acts as variable camo, prehaps you carry a virus which only affects humans and is transmitted with your bite (rabbies on crack) it could paralyze or impede your enemy in some way.
Also this game would emphasize not on your average wolves, but a pack of wolves that has evolved to be smarter, and better adapted to survive against thier greatest threat (that would be us humans).
And as I mentioned before; there will be a stat system. Prehaps a skill tree to decide which strageis suite you best. Intelligence/ Charisma for better use of your environment, the ability to flip switches, disarm traps, and disarm humans, pull the pin off a grenade etc; increased ability to orchestrate an attack using your pack, better control over your pack, less battles for dominance once you have attained Alpha-status.
Strength/Constitution/Dexterity would all have the usual effects on your attack power/ biting strength, stamina and health/suseptiblity to pioson/gas/tranquilizers, dexterity may allow you to bite specific areas of the body on cue (ie. bite for unarmored or weak points on armored targets) and increase running speed and stealth abilities.
Perks may be handy also, similar to FO3, maybe a coat of fur wich acts as variable camo, prehaps you carry a virus which only affects humans and is transmitted with your bite (rabbies on crack) it could paralyze or impede your enemy in some way.
I'd play the game if there's a bonus level where you can bite the nuts off of those douche bag aerial hunters.
This game does exist. [http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/wolf]
It's abandonware. [http://www.hotud.org/component/content/article/46-simulation/20965]
You're welcome.
It's abandonware. [http://www.hotud.org/component/content/article/46-simulation/20965]
You're welcome.