In your opinion, who is/was the greatest human being of all time?

[Darth_Dude]

Psh Jesus was nothing compared to Moses, dude parted the seas, climbed a big ass mountain and chatted with god, plus he had a kid when he was 90 way to go gramps.... lets not mention that he almost dabbled in a little child sacrifice later on

Yeah, but was Moses literally God? What's better, parting the Red Sea, or creating the universe? I'm not talking bad about Moses, but Jesus pretty much wins this one.

So Jesus=God now? Seriously, I suppose not being all that religious has left me rather ignorant of most biblical matters but sense when did Jesus create the universe?

Havn't you heard? Jesus, God and the Holy spirit are all one thing now. The Trinity or some other crap. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?

If you don't believe me. it's official Catholic Church dogma

 

[Terror_666]

Well obviously it was Otto Frederick Rohwedder the guy who invented sliced bread.

 

[Bazamm]

I don't think Jesus truly counts as a "Human", as according to the bible he is god manifested in the form of a human.

For me, i would have to say either Ghandi or Abraham Lincoln. They are both great people who changed the world for the better, Ghandi bringing about his ideals without violence and Abraham abolishing slavery.

 

[Lucane]

The 1st Cave person to make fire ...(Who said it was a guy anyway? Is that fact or just stereotyped enforced belief?)

 

[tehbeard]

tl;dr.

Tim Schafer.

Need I say anymore?

 

[Theraz]

Adolph Hitler, in my opinion.

He took a downtrodden nation, completely stripped of everything that could possibly sustain it...and turned it into a global super-power that could have easily held off the united might of several countries, by itself. American and British governments both agree that if Hitler hadn't have gone after Russia, he would have made the war last several more years, if not win it entirely.

Not to mention he was a flawed person, so all in all an ordinary man with an extraordinary ability to lead. If you look past the bad things he's done, you get a man who wasn't a Saint, he wasn't a Villain. He was just a man who had a dream, and sought to earn this dream in any way he possibly could.

That my friend is very true and I completely agree with you.

 

[SideburnsPuppy]

Gandhi. Minus the whole South Africa affair, of course. That was...less than good for his reputation.

 

[Anstrup]

I reckon Eve from the bible why? because without her there would be no Da Vinci NO Beatles No Elvis No Jesus

That's a belief, not a fact.


Personally i go with Nietzche

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Not to try and start a religious debated or anything, but this is what bothers me about that... people say that there was a man named jesus and it has been proven. Ok, so there was a guy that was alive, that doesn't mean anything or everything he did was real/true. That is like saying they found a lost piece of the trojan horse and therefor the whole Iliad was true.

Regardless of whether or not he did everything written down, his influence stemming from people believing he did has been unspeakably profound. This fact is instructive in a couple ways: that an individual person is, in reality, relatively unimportant; rather it is the wider structure of societies and civilizations that gives them that importance, and secondly it illustrates the Thomas theorem, "if men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences."

And the consequences of Jesus have been very real, in both exceptionally positive and extremely negative ways. (However, perhaps that doesn't qualify him as the "greatest human being"; perhaps the most important, but that would completely ignore the rest of the world.)

But, you also have to think how different the world would be if we never had Bob Barker! Would The Price Is Right ever have succeeded without his awesomeness?

 

[Ken Sapp]

Norman Borlaug

 

[ProfessorLayton]

So Jesus=God now? Seriously, I suppose not being all that religious has left me rather ignorant of most biblical matters but sense when did Jesus create the universe?

Umm... yes, He is... I hate to get all serious on a thread like this but God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are the same person... but not really because they're all different... Yeah it's pretty impossible to describe and I even have a hard time wrapping my head around it all...

Not to try and start a religious debated or anything, but this is what bothers me about that... people say that there was a man named jesus and it has been proven. Ok, so there was a guy that was alive, that doesn't mean anything or everything he did was real/true. That is like saying they found a lost piece of the trojan horse and therefor the whole Iliad was true.

Exactly. It depends on what you believe. And you can go ahead and say He never existed, but then that's like saying no one ever existed because you can't prove the existence of anyone, now can you? Sure, you can talk about all the evidence, but that doesn't prove anything.

 

[open trap]

Dave Mustaine is god.

 

[meepop]

As religious and Catholic as I (seriously) am, I must say that Jesus was not all man, but was God in form of man. I'll let you debate that in a diff. thread while I think the greatest human being must've been Da Vinci, Chuck Norris, or Albert Einstein. Hitler (I'm not a Nazi sympathizer, I just did some research and found out) actually was one of the stupidest individuals in all of history. His strategies and plans were brilliant, but apparently he forgot that Jews lived in America, while he held most of the continent of Europe and allied with Japan. So Hitler cannot ever be the greatest human being =)

 

[meepop]

Adolph Hitler, in my opinion.

He took a downtrodden nation, completely stripped of everything that could possibly sustain it...and turned it into a global super-power that could have easily held off the united might of several countries, by itself. American and British governments both agree that if Hitler hadn't have gone after Russia, he would have made the war last several more years, if not win it entirely.

Not to mention he was a flawed person, so all in all an ordinary man with an extraordinary ability to lead. If you look past the bad things he's done, you get a man who wasn't a Saint, he wasn't a Villain. He was just a man who had a dream, and sought to earn this dream in any way he possibly could.

To quote Harry Potter like the geek I am: "He did many great things. Terrible! Yes...but great."


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My second choice, however...would be Abraham Lincoln. That man was a living saint. I do wonder how the United States would be if he had lived through his term as President.

He didn't have a dream, his hatred from Jews stemmed from two things: He couldn't paint/make art for beans and when he went to enroll in art school, guess who the supervisors/teachers were? And when his mother was dying of cancer (because there was no cure), guess who the doctor was? His dream was cruel because he thought a doctor could've saved his mother and that his drawings weren't terrible (but they were). Personally I think if they had been Christians, he would've attacked them.

 

[ScarBrow07]

Mel Gibson. He's fairly cool. Until he's drunk and acts the arsehole

 

[coldshadow]

john paul larkin. you who know who he is know why

 

[Slenn]

Carl Sagan. He was my childhood hero.

 

[reggaerae]

Anyone who says Jesus.....eugh.