Indian man attacked and burned alive in Australia

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Ziadaine_v1legacy

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I honestly don't give two rats about it. Just yesterday for my sisters 17th birthday we went out to a small Bay-side about 40mins drive, we get there and here's a fight between Lebanese groups at which they tried throwing chairs from a local cafe at bystanders for staring. If it wasn't for the Police there Half the Actual Australians there would have pummeled them to the ground for destroying the Cafe area. :\ (myself included, they knocked my damn Wrap off the table.)
 

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If i was to go to India (or any other country) and be killed over there could my family and country claim it was racially motivated? Even if they did, there would be denials coming so thick and fast from that countries government it would make your head spin.
I don't know if these attacks are racially motivated (they could be given the amount of bogan idiots down that way) but these people that set him on fire could just as easily turn out to be fellow Indians, as they seem to attack each other on the basis of religion over here often enough. If this turns out to be the case, will the wankers over in India calling the Vic police KKK members apologise or will it all just be swept under the rug? Also will the Indian government apologise? I think not.
 

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Pandairon said:
It's weird. I didn't know Australia had a history of racism towards Indians.
I lol'd

How many people each Day/Week/Month/Year/Decade/Century/Millenia are brutally attacked, killed or mangled that doesn't make the front page of WW media... tbh it's just being singled out for the media to garner more ratings and milk the $$$$. Dam u corporatism.. dam u to Hades leave our uninformed comrades alone :p
 

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Acrisius said:
Damn aussies! Lay of the pints for the love of crap, and straighten up this shit!

And if you find time, you could wrestle some crocs in the swamp I guess...
How very racist of you to stereotype an entire race and paint everyone from the country in a negative light because of the actions of a minority.

When I read and saw the news about Nitin Garg I was upset about his death and thought the circumstances, "suspicious." After this time the Victorian Police still rule out racial motivation, but they haven't actually said WHAT was the motivator. He had his phone and wallet on him when he was found, thus ruling out a robbery.

It pisses me off to think there's a racist and violent group of persons in Australia who's targeting innocent people. We don't yet know who is responsible or their true reasons for committing such acts, but I would like to see these bastards found!

Australia is a multi-cultural nation, it's one of our strengths that we have such a rich diversity of cultures and ethnicity's. The targeting of other cultures in my opinion is against the Aussie tradition of a fair go and respect for your fellow person.

I'm almost ashamed to call myself Australian if it means I'll be associated with violent racist pricks! But I must remind myself, and the world, that these violent and racist assholes who commit these crimes, do not represent the country I live in or it's people.

I hope the perpetrators of these disgusting acts of violence are caught and brought to justice. I hope the victims can if possible recover from their wounds and move on. And I'd like to see no more racially motivated violence in hatred in Australia, from any culture or race.

In the Australia I know and love, Indian's are our welcome friends and equals.
 

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Ocelot GT said:
Acrisius said:
Damn aussies! Lay of the pints for the love of crap, and straighten up this shit!

And if you find time, you could wrestle some crocs in the swamp I guess...
How very racist of you to stereotype an entire race and paint everyone from the country in a negative light because of the actions of a minority.

When I read and saw the news about Nitin Garg I was upset about his death and thought the circumstances, "suspicious." After this time the Victorian Police still rule out racial motivation, but they haven't actually said WHAT was the motivator. He had his phone and wallet on him when he was found, thus ruling out a robbery.

It pisses me off to think there's a racist and violent group of persons in Australia who's targeting innocent people. We don't yet know who is responsible or their true reasons for committing such acts, but I would like to see these bastards found!

Australia is a multi-cultural nation, it's one of our strengths that we have such a rich diversity of cultures and ethnicity's. The targeting of other cultures in my opinion is against the Aussie tradition of a fair go and respect for your fellow person.

I'm almost ashamed to call myself Australian if it means I'll be associated with violent racist pricks! But I must remind myself, and the world, that these violent and racist assholes who commit these crimes, do not represent the country I live in or it's people.

I hope the perpetrators of these disgusting acts of violence are caught and brought to justice. I hope the victims can if possible recover from their wounds and move on. And I'd like to see no more racially motivated violence in hatred in Australia, from any culture or race.

In the Australia I know and love, Indian's are our welcome friends and equals.
yes to all
 

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Dang. How horrible. Always thought Australia as a pretty 'racially-neutral' country, if such a thing exists. Just shows how much I know.
 

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Ziadaine said:
I honestly don't give two rats about it. Just yesterday for my sisters 17th birthday we went out to a small Bay-side about 40mins drive, we get there and here's a fight between Lebanese groups at which they tried throwing chairs from a local cafe at bystanders for staring. If it wasn't for the Police there Half the Actual Australians there would have pummeled them to the ground for destroying the Cafe area. :\ (myself included, they knocked my damn Wrap off the table.)
Actual Australians? You mean Aboriginals? My Word.
 

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ezeroast said:
Ocelot GT said:
Acrisius said:
Damn aussies! Lay of the pints for the love of crap, and straighten up this shit!

And if you find time, you could wrestle some crocs in the swamp I guess...
How very racist of you to stereotype an entire race and paint everyone from the country in a negative light because of the actions of a minority.

When I read and saw the news about Nitin Garg I was upset about his death and thought the circumstances, "suspicious." After this time the Victorian Police still rule out racial motivation, but they haven't actually said WHAT was the motivator. He had his phone and wallet on him when he was found, thus ruling out a robbery.

It pisses me off to think there's a racist and violent group of persons in Australia who's targeting innocent people. We don't yet know who is responsible or their true reasons for committing such acts, but I would like to see these bastards found!

Australia is a multi-cultural nation, it's one of our strengths that we have such a rich diversity of cultures and ethnicity's. The targeting of other cultures in my opinion is against the Aussie tradition of a fair go and respect for your fellow person.

I'm almost ashamed to call myself Australian if it means I'll be associated with violent racist pricks! But I must remind myself, and the world, that these violent and racist assholes who commit these crimes, do not represent the country I live in or it's people.

I hope the perpetrators of these disgusting acts of violence are caught and brought to justice. I hope the victims can if possible recover from their wounds and move on. And I'd like to see no more racially motivated violence in hatred in Australia, from any culture or race.

In the Australia I know and love, Indian's are our welcome friends and equals.
yes to all
I concur.
 

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just like to point out a funny tid-bit:

Indians are actually known for being a bit racist towards Australians. look into there culture and you can see why (they follow a classes system where certain people are basically better than others). Many of them simply come here to get a better/more-recognized education and then go back home.

This is just my understanding of it. Please note, the attackers deserve to be slowly eaten alive by rats.
 

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Khada said:
Indians are actually known for being a bit racist towards Australians. look into there culture and you can see why (they follow a classes system where certain people are basically better than others).
Could you care to elaborate?
 

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Pandairon said:
It's weird. I didn't know Australia had a history of racism towards Indians.
We've actually got a history of racism towards everyone really.

Every group that migrates to Australia in large numbers during a period (usually a decade or so) suffers extreme racism, until the next wave of immigrants arrive. Its always the same message from the racists as well 'the immigrants are going to ruin our country!'.

The worst part is that those races that have been unjustly targeted in the past are often the worst offenders.

Keyser_Soze said:
Khada said:
Indians are actually known for being a bit racist towards Australians. look into there culture and you can see why (they follow a classes system where certain people are basically better than others).
Could you care to elaborate?
Actually I agree with Keyser, all the Indians I have ever worked with or for and studied with have been extremely hostile towards people they view as under their position. There was a nice student who was very friendly towards me until he saw my car and started treating me like crap immediately, culturally they seem very materialistic.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
I wonder the reason behind the racism in this case?
If it is racially motivated.
And if both attacks were not just coincidences.
It said there were several others last year - although I'm still unsure; there were likely several attacks on whites, blacks, Asians, etc. there last year as well (like most places).

But still, it's pretty horrific.
 

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Ushario said:
Pandairon said:
It's weird. I didn't know Australia had a history of racism towards Indians.
We've actually got a history of racism towards everyone really.

Every group that migrates to Australia in large numbers during a period (usually a decade or so) suffers extreme racism, until the next wave of immigrants arrive. Its always the same message from the racists as well 'the immigrants are going to ruin our country!'.

The worst part is that those races that have been unjustly targeted in the past are often the worst offenders.

Keyser_Soze said:
Khada said:
Indians are actually known for being a bit racist towards Australians. look into there culture and you can see why (they follow a classes system where certain people are basically better than others).
Could you care to elaborate?
Actually I agree with Keyser, all the Indians I have ever worked with or for and studied with have been extremely hostile towards people they view as under their position. There was a nice student who was very friendly towards me until he saw my car and started treating me like crap immediately, culturally they seem very materialistic.
I think you mean you agree with Khada. Its so nice to see that generalizing about people is applicable to Indians but not Australians. [dspace.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/41761/3/dunn_paper.pdf]
 

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This is coming from an Australian.

Over the past few years there has been a massive rise in foreign population living in Australia. I live in a small suburb called Bankstown and we have a large population of Lebanese and Asian people. There have only been a few cases involving racist attacks and half of them were done by the Lebanese towards the Australians.

Now don't think I am one sided. I have many Asian and Lebanese friends and they are all great people. I am even related to some Lebanese as some of my cousins are Lebanese. Personally I think these attacks on the Indians are wrong and rascally influenced. But don't think for one second that the entire nation is full of bogans and racists. Sure you get your occasional person or group that is a full-fledged racist and even I have some distrust for other races, as I'm sure many people do, but it is rare to find a true hater of other races.

And don't think that Australians are cool with the Cronulla riots or these recent events. They are both shocking and mainly done by idiots who think that they are the better person.
 

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Pandairon said:
Holy fuck.

The major political parties can't keep denying these are racially-motivated attacks. This will have a major impact on the financial model of universities. Already, a significant percentage of foreign student enrollments in Australian universities for 2010 has dropped. Beyond that, there's no telling how this could effect the relationship between Australia and India.
What's that you say? The Australian government is somehow incompetent and handling an issue extremely poorly? Well that's something I'd never expect to hear.

Oh wait... how's the internet in Australia. Man, that country needs a bloody election.
 

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This all shits me..
1) (Being Aussie) I've always seen Australia as a multicultural country seeing as there are so many different races.
2) They don't know if these attacks were pre-meditated or that this was just a spur of the moment and that the person was attacked because it was a fucking gang.
3)This attack was not necessarily done by white Australians (which of course after the Shire's riots they are targeted as being racist) as I've already stated there are other races who could have done this...
 

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Ushario said:
Its always the same message from the racists as well 'the immigrants are going to ruin our country!'.
The next line they should have said "if you don't believe us, just ask an aboriginal Australian! They'll tell you how bad it was having foreigners come in and take over... wait"

The irony of White Australians bitching about immigration is palpable.
 

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TheBlobThing said:
Skarin said:
Lots of the Indian students work graveyard shifts at 711s etc, live in shitty areas (this is based on observation when I was in Melbourne). Therefore the odds are higher than the average bear for something bad to happen. You call all the recipes for a mugging/assault to occur.

That's not to say there aren't racists in Australia, beyond any doubt they have their share of dickheads but is it a purely racially charged crime?. Maybe not.
Well, being doused in a flammable liquid and then set on fire doesn't, as far as I know, follow the standard modus operandi of muggings. In this particular case, with such a horrible attack, I think racist motives are more than likely.

I think the question isn't, "was it racially motivated?" rather "is this a part of a wider pattern?"

In Denmark we had an attack on a 16-year old Turkish paper-boy by a small group of whites. They killed him with a bat to the head without any motive other than race. Witnesses heard them say racist things to this poor kid when he was bleeding out on the street. This was a horrible case and the police tried to rule out a racial motivation at first, but on a wider scale, the case didn't concern me because, in spite of the rampant racism in Denmark, these violent acts doesn't occur very often.

So, to sum up my wall of text, of course one should be horrified by this but see it in a larger perspective: is this a common occurrence?
I agree 100%. However, being doused in a flammable liquid and then set on fire could very well be the actions of an over zealous mugger. Like I said I am not suggesting that this wasn't a racial attack, but perhaps its more than what meets the eye. It could be a gang related assault or personal grudge which has nothing to do with race and ethnicity.
 

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Keyser_Soze said:
Ziadaine said:
Actual Australians? You mean Aboriginals? My Word.
Hurr hurr hurrr

I like you that made me smirk at the irony.

OT: It just occurred to me if this whole thing was racially motivated wouldn't his wife have been in some way inflicted with pain?
I'm not saying I wanted that to happen and I do realise that there is a difference between hitting a man and a woman and it is actually more morally questioning but if these were hard line racist wouldn't they have done something to her?

And on another note couldn't she give descriptions on the men who attacked? So we can find which racial group committed this crime?