inFamous 2... WTF?! (SPOLIERS MAY BE INVOLVED AT SOME POINT)

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Vykrel

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i like the new look and voice actor. one of the popular complaints about inFamous was that Cole sounded like a chain smoker, and looked like a weird, angry cancer patient or something
 

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Cole is healed every time he drains electricity, so maybe he'd eventually fix his voice by doing so for a while. And hair grows, people. How is Cole supposed to find a barber?

In the end, the game looks spectacularly fun, so all of this is meaningless.
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
You do realize he was exploded, right? How should he look?
He had time to heal, plus I doubt anyone wouldn't help him with the scars and voice problem, and he could be wearing a wig for all we know.
 

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Most people complained about his look and voice(case and point: Zero Punctuation), Sucker Punch changed it and people still aren't happy.

Frankly I don't care what he looks like as long as the game play is cool(And it is cool as fuck) and the story is good.
 

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If people refuse to play inFamous 2 because they don't like new Cole, their loss. I'll be throwing electric tornados at helicopters while they... do something else. I'm assuming NOT having fun.
 

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As far as I can figure in the first... you can heal yourself when you suck out the electricity of everything that has it. You can even shoot electricity and return it to yourself healing yourself even further... that said, Cole could easily turn himself back to who he was before the explosion just by mastering his powers alone.

If that voice was his before the event, fine. If he can heal the damage done to his skin effectively making him look younger, fine. So long as they aptly explain it, I don't give a damn... just give me a worthy succession to the first inFAMOUS.

The only reasons I have been against the voice is because they haven't properly explained it to us yet and they said that the design isn't permanent which means someone in marketing is being a ***** and/or the designers are spineless twats, your pick.
 

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I think one thing I enjoy is how much better Zeke will be. He is said to actually HELP you in this one. Even kill some baddies. And he will make weapons or gadgets for you. I guess he is trying real hard to get back on Cole's good side. Which I think he deserves a second chance. Only a second one. I say, if he betrays Cole again, Cole should lock him up, or kill him. I was SO pissed when Zeke betrayed Cole in the first game.
 

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Josh Kurber said:
I think one thing I enjoy is how much better Zeke will be. He is said to actually HELP you in this one. Even kill some baddies. And he will make weapons or gadgets for you. I guess he is trying real hard to get back on Cole's good side. Which I think he deserves a second chance. Only a second one. I say, if he betrays Cole again, Cole should lock him up, or kill him. I was SO pissed when Zeke betrayed Cole in the first game.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to what Zeke can do, and how the have Cole handle the whole betrayal thing.

I'll throw this up in a spoiler for the end of inFAMOUS:
And addressing your first post, shouldn't he be getting more powers anyway? I know what you mean, he's still the almighty Lightbulb in my eyes, but look at Kessler.
 

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Last Bullet said:
Josh Kurber said:
I think one thing I enjoy is how much better Zeke will be. He is said to actually HELP you in this one. Even kill some baddies. And he will make weapons or gadgets for you. I guess he is trying real hard to get back on Cole's good side. Which I think he deserves a second chance. Only a second one. I say, if he betrays Cole again, Cole should lock him up, or kill him. I was SO pissed when Zeke betrayed Cole in the first game.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to what Zeke can do, and how the have Cole handle the whole betrayal thing.

I'll throw this up in a spoiler for the end of inFAMOUS:
And addressing your first post, shouldn't he be getting more powers anyway? I know what you mean, he's still the almighty Lightbulb in my eyes, but look at Kessler.
Oh, he IS gettign more powers. He is keeping his old ones too. They said that some of the powers will be slightly different, and then you will gain more. Because, in my opinion, the Shield power was so pointless. I never ONCE used it, even on hard mode. I never found a use for it with the Megawatt Hammer.

And yeah, there has to be a way for him to eventually gain some kind of Time abilities. I am slowly coming around to the idea of his new powers. He may be Electric Man, but it never said he would only get ONE power. It said the Orb gave him super powerS. So maybe he found a way to manifest his electricity and gain more powers. The ice may be contributed to something about electricity. And time would work with electricity. I would honestly love to see him create little time-free zones in game 3. Like, spaces where only he can move through time and everyone else freezes. He is going to be a BEAST.
 

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Oh, he IS gettign more powers. He is keeping his old ones too. They said that some of the powers will be slightly different, and then you will gain more. Because, in my opinion, the Shield power was so pointless. I never ONCE used it, even on hard mode. I never found a use for it with the Megawatt Hammer.

And yeah, there has to be a way for him to eventually gain some kind of Time abilities. I am slowly coming around to the idea of his new powers. He may be Electric Man, but it never said he would only get ONE power. It said the Orb gave him super powerS. So maybe he found a way to manifest his electricity and gain more powers. The ice may be contributed to something about electricity. And time would work with electricity. I would honestly love to see him create little time-free zones in game 3. Like, spaces where only he can move through time and everyone else freezes. He is going to be a BEAST.
I know what you mean, I never used the shield. Time would be completely insane, but I doubt it'd happen. It took him years to be able to go back, but I guess that doesn't limit his ability to "stop" it, so it could happen in a future title. A big hope of mine is the final boss battle isn't in one area, I thought it was weird you were stuck to the blastzone in the fight against Kessler. Running through town, using various stuff against the enemy would be pretty cool.
And looking at the now-bold...
How much would it suck if the ending of the sequel was essentially the same as the first? lol
 

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FieryTrainwreck said:
Josh Kurber said:
FieryTrainwreck said:
Most people didn't like Cole's look/voice.
A lot of people were just fine with Cole's look/voice. They didn't feel like piping up about it because there was no reason to do so - the character was fine for them.

Some of us don't believe in a single iconic male protagonist archetype.
Actually, no, he was right. According to SuckerPunch a LOT of people hated his look and voice. That's why they wanted to change it. The voice especially.
And, equally according to SuckerPunch, Cole's new look isn't final. There's no reason for them to even mention such a thing unless there's a sizable backlash against the change - which there has been. It might be enough to influence a major character redesign, which is pretty much unprecedented.

So, no, it's not at all cut-and-dry. A bunch of people hated old Cole. A bunch of people hate new Cole. That's where we stand.
I think while Sucker Punch was in the right for changing Cole (admit it, he was a fugly potato and his voice gargle marbles and nails all day), they did step a bit too far with the changes. The character model I don't mind, the voice however was a pretty drastic change and that's what people are up in arms about. If the new voice actor gargles about a quarter of the original VA's nails then it should be fine, but right now it's a bit too smooth compared to the original.

But regardless, I'm still really excited about the game and can't wait for it to come out. The new climbing mechanics look awesome and everything has been smoothed out from the animations to the combat. It looks fantabulous.
 

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Last Bullet said:
Josh Kurber said:
Oh, he IS gettign more powers. He is keeping his old ones too. They said that some of the powers will be slightly different, and then you will gain more. Because, in my opinion, the Shield power was so pointless. I never ONCE used it, even on hard mode. I never found a use for it with the Megawatt Hammer.

And yeah, there has to be a way for him to eventually gain some kind of Time abilities. I am slowly coming around to the idea of his new powers. He may be Electric Man, but it never said he would only get ONE power. It said the Orb gave him super powerS. So maybe he found a way to manifest his electricity and gain more powers. The ice may be contributed to something about electricity. And time would work with electricity. I would honestly love to see him create little time-free zones in game 3. Like, spaces where only he can move through time and everyone else freezes. He is going to be a BEAST.
I know what you mean, I never used the shield. Time would be completely insane, but I doubt it'd happen. It took him years to be able to go back, but I guess that doesn't limit his ability to "stop" it, so it could happen in a future title. A big hope of mine is the final boss battle isn't in one area, I thought it was weird you were stuck to the blastzone in the fight against Kessler. Running through town, using various stuff against the enemy would be pretty cool.
And looking at the now-bold...
How much would it suck if the ending of the sequel was essentially the same as the first? lol
Well, then again, he went back in time to train himself, remember? So he may learn the time powers ahead of... well, time. xD. He is more powerful than he was when the Beast first showed up, but then again, in inFamous 2 the Beast showed up earlier than expected. Earlier than he had for Kessler. So Cole gets his ass kicked in the very beginning of the game.

And yeah, I hope the last boss would be more epic. They said they are making the bosses bigger and badder... considering none of the bosses were big to begin with >_<. There was the girl (forgot her name 0.o) and then the psychic hobo. Then Kessler. They were all about Cole's height lol. Nothing big or "boss-like" about them.

And I think it would be cool if game 2 ended the way game one started. Something that will keep people on their toes. Either Cole goes back in time, or FORWARD in time, or maybe he sets off another Orb. Since he is in the town where the Orb was created. Or something along those lines.
 

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Josh Kurber said:
inFamous had to be one of the BEST games for PS3 i have ever played. Hell, I still play it constantly just to hear Cole McGrath tell me who Kessler was and why he did everything. His voice actor was perfect and felt real bad ass when telling a story. My ex even agreed it made you want to hear more.

Now, they gave him hair, tattoos, and a new voice actor... sigh... What the fuck? They should have kept the old voice actor. And sorta the same look. Cole looks like he went from age 24 to 17. And his voice actor sounds like another pretty boy, cocky character done by Nolan North.

Not that I have a problem with Nolan North, nor is the voice actor Nolan... -.-... but I just dislike when the voice actors for beloved characters change.

Another thing that bothers me... the ice powers. Now, I know the Beast is controlling of fire, and I read the GameInformer review. It's not going to play a HUGE part. But Cole is Electric man. Not Electric Man with a touch of Ice, Water, Fire, and What-The-Fuck-Else.

What are your complaints or compliments on inFamous or inFamous 2?
I think you pretty much summed up the main problems I have with the sequel except for one: From the latest gameplay footage it seems like Sucker Punch is trying to make Infamous 2 more of a cinematic experience a la Uncharted.

What I liked about the first Infamous was that it really felt like a game and not a cinematic blockbuster like almost every game and their grandmother needs to be these days.

Who knows, it might al turn out to be uncalled for, but I can't help but feel slightly anxious about Infamous 2.
 

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Character redesign is fine, the only minor concern I have is that he comes off as a bit of a wise ass in the trailer. So I'm really hoping I don't have to sit through any "witty banter". Other than that though, looks good.
 

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Falconus said:
Character redesign is fine, the only minor concern I have is that he comes off as a bit of a wise ass in the trailer. So I'm really hoping I don't have to sit through any "witty banter". Other than that though, looks good.
that's what I meant by his voice actor being another Nolan North. Because ALL of Nolan North's characters are pretty boy wise-asses. Which is why I agree with Yahtzee's review of God of War 3, when he said he would love to see Nolan locked in a room with Kratos and see how far the witty banter gets him before Kratos kills him.
 

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Jumplion said:
I think while Sucker Punch was in the right for changing Cole (admit it, he was a fugly potato and his voice gargle marbles and nails all day)
I don't admit that at all. "Not ridiculously handsome" doesn't equal fugly. His voice didn't bother me in the slightest. I can't fathom why people were turned off or offended by his aesthetic. He's meant to be a very rough, very average guy. He was a fucking courier for christ's sake, not a commercial actor.
 

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FieryTrainwreck said:
Jumplion said:
I think while Sucker Punch was in the right for changing Cole (admit it, he was a fugly potato and his voice gargle marbles and nails all day)
I don't admit that at all. "Not ridiculously handsome" doesn't equal fugly. His voice didn't bother me in the slightest. I can't fathom why people were turned off or offended by his aesthetic. He's meant to be a very rough, very average guy. He was a fucking courier for christ's sake, not a commercial actor.
To many people Cole looked like an angry potato, just look at Yahtzee's review (though offended? That's a bit too strong of a word). You may personally not mind Cole's original aesthetic, but that does not make it the be-end-of-all answers. Many people did, including myself, he practically looked in his late 30's now that I think about it, especially if you went the evil route (though one could argue that would be the point, but whatever). While he's meant to look like an average guy, that doesn't mean he can't look at least half-way decent, most "average" guys are.

The original voice actor went through a few changes through the production, so while his voice is ungodly gravely in the first few hours of the game, as it goes on it gets better and a bit smoother (compare the intro [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vYqdOl_EdQ&feature=fvst] to the final boss [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEBQV50s6A&feature=related], the final boss one is just a tad more noticeably smooth, and that god damn squeaking is still as annoying as ever!). I agree, his new voice is much too different, hopefully the new VA will gargle about half a cup of nails compared to the original's full cup, but it's all from people's complaining from the orginal. You may not have had a problem with it, but obviously other people did, and Sucker Punch, while I admit is overreacting, is just trying to make the game easier on the ears for everyone else.

Personally, I don't mind the new model. The voice, I can agree on, but the new model I don't see why people are getting worked up, especially considering that the game isn't even 10% done yet and the character model is still going through changes. Just give Sucker Punch a chance and let's see what they come up with.
 

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WOW, the new character looks and talks horribly!!!

Why can't they just give us some customization options?
 

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Now, I don't mind about the look. I quite enjoy the look. The voice MATCHES the look, but when looking back at Cole McGrath from game one, and matching the voice, it just isn't him. If this was a new character entirely, I wouldn't mind the voice. The voice actor sounds good. Just, not quite as Cole McGrath's voice actor.