Infinity Ward Responds to Modern Warfare 2 Controversy

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CantFaketheFunk said:
...I think IW taking steps to make the PC gaming process as painless as possible is a good thing...
Perhaps, but for those of us who are already PC gamers, (i.e. the target market for this game), that stuff (server lists, etc) is as natural as walking or writing. They are getting pissed because the game becomes more accessible to other people (read: has no effect on them) at the expense of things like server-wide communities, frikkin' mods, the ability to start up your own dedicated server, and much, much better mod/admin tools. (read: makes the game worse for everyone).

Basically, the PC gamers. the ones crying out, are the ones getting the short end of the stick.
 

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DogofRaw said:
I not to upset about the dedicated servers, all I want to know is 'will my ping be under 70?' as Im in ireland (eg: the arse end of europe) Im a bit worried. As long as its better than the console version Im happy.
"as long as its better than the console version?" what is that supposed to mean?
 

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Amnestic said:
Georgeman said:
Btw, is it just me or every game published by Activision must have one or more controversies attached to it?

Starcraft II: Lack of LAN support.
Diablo III: Supposedly colourful, WoW-influenced art design.
Blizzard works entirely autonomously from Activision. Also, Diablo 3 needs more goddamn rainbows.
Really? They might be saying they are working autonomously, but I'm pretty sure that Kottick has something to do with the whole Starcraft II marketplace thing. Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows, it's not like Blizzard would admit it if it was true.
 

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Why not just make an autojoin feature along with the standard? I've seen lots of games with something like it.
 

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Georgeman said:
Full LAN support on Starcraft II. Because what they offer is NOT LAN, it's something else.
Why not give the option for dedicated servers? Seriously, they are underestimating people's intellect too much.

Btw, is it just me or every game published by Activision must have one or more controversies attached to it?
Guitar Hero 5: The Kurt Cobain thingy. In addition, some bundle packages included the World Tour guitar rather than the new one.
Starcraft II: Lack of LAN support.
Diablo III: Supposedly colourful, WoW-influenced art design.
Modern Warfare 2: First the price increase on UK, now this.
Neither D3 nor SC2 are published by Activision, btw. Blizz self-publishes.

Edit: D'oh, beaten to it.

And no, I'm 98% sure Kotick had no say in the SC2 thing.
 

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ryai458 said:
DogofRaw said:
I not to upset about the dedicated servers, all I want to know is 'will my ping be under 70?' as Im in ireland (eg: the arse end of europe) Im a bit worried. As long as its better than the console version Im happy.
"as long as its better than the console version?" what is that supposed to mean?
It's supposed to mean that he feels a sense of superiority towards those peasant folk who only play on consoles.

I still doubt this will seriously affect the sales of MW2.
 

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I have NEVER got a new game never having played any of the ones in the series before it and thought: screw playing the game i want to make a server
 

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Compatriot Block said:
ryai458 said:
DogofRaw said:
I not to upset about the dedicated servers, all I want to know is 'will my ping be under 70?' as Im in ireland (eg: the arse end of europe) Im a bit worried. As long as its better than the console version Im happy.
"as long as its better than the console version?" what is that supposed to mean?
It's supposed to mean that he feels a sense of superiority towards those peasant folk who only play on consoles.

I still doubt this will seriously affect the sales of MW2.
Or it might mean he wants the PC Price Hike [http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35485/US-Modern-Warfare-2-gets-PC-rice-hike] to actually give him a better quality game since he's paying more for it?

Or that they don't have access to the Prestige Edition [http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/no-prestige-edition-for-pc] so he expects to be compensated elsewhere rather than with a needless price hike?

Heck, I should probably be getting a slightly better experience since I get to pay more for my game as some sort of bullshit consumer 'test' due to geographical location. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.126628] Don't think I'll forget this, Activision/Infinity Ward. You will rue the day you made me shell out an extra fiver.
 

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Frapple said:
I really want to meet these people who have trouble navigating a server browser.

Surely natural selection should have done it's thing by now.
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Oh Jesus CHRIST THIS!!!

Infinity Ward has already lost my money and all they are doing now is trying to save as can get more money back (from which is understandable)

No dedicated servers= no clans, also they didn't mention didly about mods.
 

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Compatriot Block said:
ryai458 said:
DogofRaw said:
I not to upset about the dedicated servers, all I want to know is 'will my ping be under 70?' as Im in ireland (eg: the arse end of europe) Im a bit worried. As long as its better than the console version Im happy.
"as long as its better than the console version?" what is that supposed to mean?
It's supposed to mean that he feels a sense of superiority towards those peasant folk who only play on consoles.

I still doubt this will seriously affect the sales of MW2.
i am an as you say peasent folk and i find that offensive, and funny
 

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dududf said:
Frapple said:
I really want to meet these people who have trouble navigating a server browser.

Surely natural selection should have done it's thing by now.
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Oh Jesus CHRIST THIS!!!

Infinity Ward has already lost my money and all they are doing now is trying to save as can get more money back (from which is understandable)

No dedicated servers= no clans, also they didn't mention didly about mods.
PRIVATE MATCHES AND PART LOBBIES.



Why do PC gamer have such a hard time accepting this?
 

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Man, I don't know why PC games are constantly getting the shaft this year. Are Lan play and decidated servers a sign of the devil to these people?

What's next? Diablo 3 won't be compatible with a keyboard?
 

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Frapple said:
I really want to meet these people who have trouble navigating a server browser.

Surely natural selection should have done it's thing by now.
You'd think so, but no. Not lazy my ass. Like it'd take any effort to at the very least copy and paste the server program from the original.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
Georgeman said:
Full LAN support on Starcraft II. Because what they offer is NOT LAN, it's something else.
Why not give the option for dedicated servers? Seriously, they are underestimating people's intellect too much.

Btw, is it just me or every game published by Activision must have one or more controversies attached to it?
Guitar Hero 5: The Kurt Cobain thingy. In addition, some bundle packages included the World Tour guitar rather than the new one.
Starcraft II: Lack of LAN support.
Diablo III: Supposedly colourful, WoW-influenced art design.
Modern Warfare 2: First the price increase on UK, now this.
Neither D3 nor SC2 are published by Activision, btw. Blizz self-publishes.

Edit: D'oh, beaten to it.

And no, I'm 98% sure Kotick had no say in the SC2 thing.
Ok, goes to show that I don't know everything. Apparently a combination of past midnight time, acting before thinking and my general annoyance about the Starcraft II lack of LAN support does this.

P.s. I don't like Starcraft all that much. It's just that the omission of something that made the original Starcraft popular in the first place is baffling to say the least. It would be like Mario Kart without local multiplayer. Why am I so peeved? Because, other companies could follow suit. It would be... crap.
 

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Paragon Fury said:
dududf said:
Frapple said:
I really want to meet these people who have trouble navigating a server browser.

Surely natural selection should have done it's thing by now.
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Oh Jesus CHRIST THIS!!!

Infinity Ward has already lost my money and all they are doing now is trying to save as can get more money back (from which is understandable)

No dedicated servers= no clans, also they didn't mention didly about mods.
PRIVATE MATCHES AND PART LOBBIES.



Why do PC gamer have such a hard time accepting this?
First off, don't generalise us. It's the same thing as saying "Why don't those console gamers stop flaming eachother" As you know and I know not everyone hates the other consoles, and yet saying all PC gamers are the same is the exact same thing. *~*

Now onto my point with that outa the way :p

Priate matches? ooooK that means only friends list, how the heck am I supposed to make my cod mw 2 clan get bigger if I'm only playin with friends. Having you're own dedicated server makes it "You're home" where you have control, if someone is hacking YOU CAN DEAL WITH IT, if some asshole is breaking your rules YOU CAN DEAL WITH IT. It's the lack of control, and lack of ownership that bugs the shit out of us. It's like being forced to autopilot, but the AI is a retard.

It's a really big thing if you're A PC gamer, but console gamers haven't got a clue, IMO. Mainly due to lack of experience with PC.

Trust me when I say it that it IS a big deal, also consider this. what if Infinity ward goes under? Then what? No more servers. That's just one of a several of problems.

*Edit* Yikes I just saw fanboyism come spurting out of me. (wait.. eeew...) Sorry for over flame lol.
 

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Full LAN for Starcraft 2.

Though I'm sort of biased since I never even once considered buying Modern Warfare 2, and have been set to buy SC2 since it was first announced lol. Even after they split it up into a main game and two expansions.
 

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Paragon Fury said:
dududf said:
Frapple said:
I really want to meet these people who have trouble navigating a server browser.

Surely natural selection should have done it's thing by now.
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Oh Jesus CHRIST THIS!!!

Infinity Ward has already lost my money and all they are doing now is trying to save as can get more money back (from which is understandable)

No dedicated servers= no clans, also they didn't mention didly about mods.
PRIVATE MATCHES AND PART LOBBIES.

Why do PC gamer have such a hard time accepting this?

Seriously? Have you ever played in a clan (not an pretend PSN/Live clan where people put on the same tags.) An actual clan in cups, competitions & leagues with a community following & several servers where you meet the same friendly faces each night.

Not to mention here the UK that the average broadband speed here in the UK [http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/feb/20/averageukbroadbandspeedis] is 296kpbs, that's around 25kb/s. Trying to host a 16vs16 public server off that would be awful, dedicated servers are hosted on octo-core VMs with 100/100mb lines.

I could go on but it's clearly pointless. I'm never one to hold grudges or be petty but I hope 4chan exacts is weird pseudo-vengeance on IWNET, the oh-so-talented internet superheroes they are. IW/Activision have clearly missed the entire plot, who did they think was still playing MW? The 'Sims Syndrome' kids all moved to WaW on release like a bunch of red-bull riddled magpies.

All for the sake of enforcing DLC payment on PC gamers. For shame Activision - Even EA gave away Mass Effect DLC free for the PC.

E fucking A.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
[blockquote]Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is actually the biggest investment Infinity Ward has ever made into the PC version of our games. It's also the most feature-rich PC version we've ever made. IWNET takes the benefits of dedicated servers and allows them to be utilized and accessed by every player, out of the box, while removing the barrier to entry for players unaware of how to maintain a server on their own.[/blockquote]
So, Dedicated servers now... but will we be able to pick which one from a Server Browser or will it all be "automated" where of course it won't freaking work as per bloody usual.

You are already pushing your luck with this ludicrous launch price of £55 just give your fans what they want and what you KNOW works best! Give us our full control over our dedicated servers!

Georgeman said:
Full LAN support on Starcraft II. Because what they offer is NOT LAN, it's something else.
Why not give the option for dedicated servers? Seriously, they are underestimating people's intellect too much.

Btw, is it just me or every game published by Activision must have one or more controversies attached to it?
Guitar Hero 5: The Kurt Cobain thingy. In addition, some bundle packages included the World Tour guitar rather than the new one.
Starcraft II: Lack of LAN support.
Diablo III: Supposedly colourful, WoW-influenced art design.
Modern Warfare 2: First the price increase on UK, now this.
Gee, If I didn't know any better I'd say Activision are a bunch of dickheads [http://kotaku.com/5279036/activision-sues-brutal-legend-devs-to-halt-release].

I am honestly amazed that such an amazing developer like IW can be teamed up with such a bloody repugnant publisher.

______

Activision are so bad they make EA look like a bunch of hippie indie developers.
 

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Treblaine said:
Activision are so bad they make EA look like a bunch of hippie indie developers.
EA are pretty good to us gamers now. They look like a bunch of hippie indie devs without the comparison to Activision.

On topic, accessibility is no excuse for the removal of features people like.