Internet Piracy and Porn

[funguy2121]

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A couple of things come to mind. Please bear in mind, though I think that porn is generally unhealthy to the participants in its active state, caters to baser, chauvinistic tendencies and can be abused by consumers, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with porn.

The hot girl with the boob job in the movie you're pleasuring yourself to drives a humvee, or a bentley, or a corvette. She lives in a nice house and gets to spend lots of money. This may not be true if she's spent it all on drugs, or (far more often) gets swindled out of her money because she doesn't get a good agent or contract, or both. The latter is a far worse perp when it comes to porn stars not getting their money. I'm not sure how, but porn still makes a full shit-ton of cash each year.

I know it's hypocritical to look at stealing porn differently from stealing music, games or actual movies with artistic value, while still enjoying said stolen porn. But I just don't feel like justifying paying an exorbitant amount of money to jerk off, and it's hard to feel bad for porn people. Have you seen the houses they film these things in? They're not the cheap hotels of yesteryear. So I don't believe the directors and producers are suffering either.

And I can certainly differentiate between porn and art. Art vs. entertainment can be argued ad nauseum, but if I'm going to watch a season of Nurse Jackie or the new Christopher Nolan film, or play the new Call of Duty or listen to the new Black Keys album without paying for it, I'm going to feel bad because artists poured their hearts out into those projects. Though an argument could be made that cinematography, editing and performance have improved the visceral-ness of porn, the end result isn't a master work of storytelling - it's simply a greater state of arousal. I don't think masturbation, as fun as it is, should ever be held in as high esteem as enjoying an album for the first time or discovering a new filmmaker.

 

[MurderousToaster]

I always lul when I hear the words "porn industry". I know people make a lot of money off it but I think it's cute when they think they're an industry.

OT: I any case, this is the only "industry" I wouldn't care about if it ran into the ground

Why wouldn't it be an industry? If you don't think porn is an industry then neither is the gaming industry.

OT: Yeah OP you're on to something. I'm sure that sites like YouPorn and PornHub* piss them off to no end, i mean that's basically killing their profits. And the social stigma doesn't help either, the people who are really up in arms about Illegal Downloading are more traditional and probably spew out how porn "is depraved garbage that objectifies women and glorifies casual sex"


*[sub][sub]don't pretend you don't know what they are[/sub][/sub]

A lot of porn sites have started submitting parts of their videos to those sites (so some must be friendly with them, I guess), and give a link in the video to the full thing you have to pay for. For some reason, they always submit clips that it's long enough for the average male to fap to.

I know this through...uh...extensive research in the field.

 

[jonyboy13]

Well, porn is just absurdly easy to pirate, you don't even have to download anything. Just go to your favorite website and watch HD of whatever fetish you want.
Also, when you need porn you don't think about pirating, unless pirates are your fetish.

 

[funguy2121]

Mhh never thought about the porn industry. But if it goes to hell...
I mean there is always indie porn ...

lul

Yeah, cause I want to watch two people act like nervous figgtiy morons in front of a camera in the hands of a spastic 20 year old who can't hold it steady and shut up to save his life.

You tend to get past the OMG BOOBIEZ!!!11! phase at some point in your life and care more about the fantasy.

Pre-emptive edit: Why people aren't open about porn? Because from a young age we get drilled into believing it's something bad, even though (once again) it's likely the one telling us that has used it at one point or another in their lives. So we get conditioned into thinking that porn is bad and as such, become quite afraid of admitting to using it. Society being silly, in a nutshell.

My friends are perfectly open with me about them viewing porn, and I with them. None of use are open with our families, or random people. Not that I mind talking about it in the slightest, it's just not a part of small talk.

That's the impression I get with most people. I only know a few that will not even admit to viewing porn, and I have watched porn with several of my girlfriends since I was old enough to buy the stuff (and even before that).

/Thread! Jesus, I know what you're talking about. If I were a director in this biz I would only hire guys who are mute. The shit they say is never as funny, cool or sexy (to anyone) as they think it is. It's about the girl, you moron, shut up!

 

[Rayne870]

I always lul when I hear the words "porn industry". I know people make a lot of money off it but I think it's cute when they think they're an industry.

OT: I any case, this is the only "industry" I wouldn't care about if it ran into the ground

They are an industry and in fact have historically had a huge impact on media. VHS vs Beta was decided by the porn industry, as was the public release of DVD and Bluray tech.

I have no idea if the industry is in decline and nor do I really care anymore. Besides I would say the most destructive factor in the porn industry is the fact that no one really needs 30 minute clips, and certainly doesn't want to pay for them. I know if I'm taking more than 5 minutes I feel like I'm wasting time since I think about porn as a quick release and actual sex as something that should take its time.

 

[Yopaz]

Y
Seeing "free porn" is somewhat similar to........ .

wait.... their are people that PAY of PORN(rolls on ground laughing)

Yes, there are also people who know correct grammar such as the difference between there and their. Not sure if you read a thing of my post, but the TV channels that air it don't pirate it. Seriously, don't quote out of context and present a post that looks like it was written by a 12 year old.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Because fuck people who work in porn(like they haven't had enough of that M I RITE LOL). They deserve neither sympathy nor respect and are nothing more than glorified prostitutes and pimps. I'm not trying to take any higher moral ground here, but humanity will be a lot better off without stupid people gobbling chodes on camera.

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Censorship and outlawing of the Porn industry would be the worst possible choice. Look at what happened when some bloody Moral Guardians got liquor banned in Chicago; practically gave birth to Mafia as we know them now.

It is the same with gambling and prostitution and frankly should be the same with drugs. You will never stop people getting what the want one way or another: if you make the above things legal, then you get government regulation. That means standards of health, production, treatment of employees and anything else you care to name.

Best part, takes the power right out of the criminals' hands. No sane mane is gonna go see a guy at a place for some weed when he can buy a weight bag of it from a tobacconist, with the added bonus that it isn't laced with bad chemicals or other drugs. As for prostitution, I agree with George Carlin "How can it be illegal to sell something you can give away with no penalty?". Its a pointless exercise.

 

[ph0b0s123]

You are quite right that it is unequal in the treatment. Maybe people don't care about the threat of the porn industry dying, the way they do with the music, film and game industries. Maybe lots of people use porn but have no love for the porn industry, so have no moral qualms about taking their product. A bit like, say stealing drugs. Ie they are are making something 'immoral' so it is not immoral to steal it...

One quick poser. If pirating from the porn industry damages that industry are people who pirate ch!ld pr0n therefore good for damaging that industry? Just saying...

 

[jawakiller]

The thought of sailing up to a porn studio on a pirate ship and pillaging it for its porn makes me giggle.

YO HO! Let us become become the most feared masters of the sea that the porn industry has ever witnessed!


(This be a joke arghh! I be in no way advocating the pirating of pornography because as we all know that be frowned upon by those scurvy dogs that sail on the HMS Moderator)

i just don't get porn its just soo stupid...and im fucking 16 and male. the perfect audience for porn

Dont be trying to pretend ye not be fond of the carnal videos mate! Your mother aint gonna read this forum!

Har har har, thar be a wise one lad.

We don't care about porn and pirates because nobody likes to admit they use it. I guess the younger are an exception cuz me and my friends (males and females) talk about it all the time, usually in jokes.

 

[Denvarte]

well it's hard to raise fuss over a morally questionable act when it's inflicted on a industry that some find morally questionable

 

[Baradiel]

Thats a very good point. Free porn is generally accepted as the norm. I can honestly say I've never heard some link 'piracy' and 'pornography'. The two just don't work in my mind.

Also, slight side note, if there was a sudden change in laws and such, making free porn illegal, Anonymous would kick up a right stink. Look at how they reacted to attempts to restrict pirated music: how the hell would they deal with an attempt to censor pornography?!?!?

The world brought to it's knees by the overpowering craving for fappable material...

 

[jhlip]

The thought of sailing up to a porn studio on a pirate ship and pillaging it for its porn makes me giggle.

lawl

U mean like this?

Lol. That's quite clever sir.

 

[Chamale]

i just don't get porn its just soo stupid...and im fucking 16 and male. the perfect audience for porn

17 and male here. I think it's an interesting stereotype that absolutely everyone in my demographic likes porn. I don't watch pornographic movies, but whenever I tell that to someone they say something like, "You don't have to lie about it."

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

Because fuck people who work in porn(like they haven't had enough of that M I RITE LOL). They deserve neither sympathy nor respect and are nothing more than glorified prostitutes and pimps. I'm not trying to take any higher moral ground here, but humanity will be a lot better off without stupid people gobbling chodes on camera.

Millions of people would disagree with you there. They enjoy watching porn.

And why would porn stars (or directors/cameramen/editors, etc), or prostitutes for that matter, not deserve any sympathy? There's a million reasons for joining either profession. Ranging from having little other choice if you don't want to be on the dole, to simply making your job out of your hobby (yes, there are people who willingly join the porn or prostitution industry), and probably lots of reasons in between.

And why would humanity be better off without any visual aid to ease the act of masturbation?

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Because it's hard to have a long and satisfying discussion about porn that gives any kind of release.

Ahem. Also, no one pays for porn, unless they don't know what a Webcam is or are in the Eighties.

 

[RevRaptor]

Actually the porn industry is pretty vocal about piracy but I guess you have to move in the right circles to really pay any attention to it. A lot of people watch porn but how many actually take the time to see how the industry is doing as a whole and see what the companys are getting up to behind the scenes.

http://torrentfreak.com/porn-industry-to-take-on-bittorrent-sites-070910/

 

[Hunter15]

exactly my point the media tends to see us as a bunch of idiots who do nothing but jerk off to porn all the damn time which is completely retarded cause teens are more social and smarter then a bunch of monkeys

 

[Dags90]

Second, do you really want to be caught buying it?

How about being caught "stealing" it?

I generally bring up porn, and the disparity between patent law and copyright in every piracy thread I can be bothered reading.