Internet troll is jailed after mocking deaths of teenagers online.
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The guy's an idiot, thats evident, but jail time is a bit overkill. I can see why they did it though; I imagine ordinarily a fine might have been brought against him but as hes unemployed they'd never see the money. This way he gets a lesson of sorts and the victims' families feel some justice has been done.
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But more on topic, I reread the topic and I think I misunderstood the man's intent. I understood it as a man with aspergers attempting black humor because he thought it was alright, when it's just a guy attacking a family for whatever reason.
So I think he does deserve a punishment now. One that would fit the severity of his disgusting act:
nothing.
I guess free speech is for uncool kids nowadays. I mean seriously, JAILING people over this sort of shit? Fuck the justice system and the corrupt morons running it.
Seems weird to give the guy jail time for being a dick. As if the jails aren't overcrowded enough already, we're going to start sentencing people for being assholes now?
What he did deserve was a righteous beating, but that, unfortunately, is more traditionally illegal.
What he did deserve was a righteous beating, but that, unfortunately, is more traditionally illegal.
It does go a bit further than simply saying mean things - he must have actively sought information and tributes about these people who died to troll them. However, it is a bit tricky as some people pointed out.
As far as I can tell, he didn't insult the dead teenagers to their families face, but rather put these malicious comments on a website where they're bound to see it and get upset over it. He didn't ring their house numbers or send letters like some people have done in the past but what he did do was just low.
I do somewhat agree jail for 18 weeks is a bit too much, perhaps a restraining order against the families or a fine so the families didn't think he got away with it.
Not sure how they would stop him from making a false name on social networks though, track his IP address? (Pretty sure you can tell I fail at anything technical...)
As far as I can tell, he didn't insult the dead teenagers to their families face, but rather put these malicious comments on a website where they're bound to see it and get upset over it. He didn't ring their house numbers or send letters like some people have done in the past but what he did do was just low.
I do somewhat agree jail for 18 weeks is a bit too much, perhaps a restraining order against the families or a fine so the families didn't think he got away with it.
Not sure how they would stop him from making a false name on social networks though, track his IP address? (Pretty sure you can tell I fail at anything technical...)
I don't think people understand what the freedom of speech actually is. This is an extreme example, but its how I learned where the fine line was.
You have the right to hold a Nazi-KKK jazz fusion rally in a public place. That's totally acceptable.
Whats not acceptable is holding your Nazi-KKK jazz fusion rally in front of a synagogue, conveniently located right outside their only exit.
The dude was totally allowed to express his opinion that her death was stupid. He crossed the line by making inflammatory comments on her memorial page and making a video to taunt her family. That's no good.
You have the right to hold a Nazi-KKK jazz fusion rally in a public place. That's totally acceptable.
Whats not acceptable is holding your Nazi-KKK jazz fusion rally in front of a synagogue, conveniently located right outside their only exit.
The dude was totally allowed to express his opinion that her death was stupid. He crossed the line by making inflammatory comments on her memorial page and making a video to taunt her family. That's no good.
Well, in most cases that's not constant and easily changed. They could always do a hardware or ip range ban.EeveeElectro said:
Alright to the people commenting on this here and saying about free speech. Please for the love of God, GO LEARN LAW BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT IT. There are limitations to what you can say at any given time and under various articles there are situations where you aren't allowed to open your mouth and say what you want to. When it causes harm to another person or is known to cause, then it is no longer protected under our rights as humans. It is like shouting fire in a crowded location or shark on a crowded beach; firstly, it isn't funny in any sense of the word and secondly you can cause damage to people. The reason the court systems found him guilty was because of his gross neglect of human emotion and the sensitivity that those who just lost someone feel. Do you have any idea those suffering from losing a loved one can slip into a suicide? What this troll just did was first off wrong morally and is wrong by the standards that government puts out; so yeah, I completely agree with his jail time and I think he should be made to tough out a year or two inside of four months, especially since the troll had no job in the first place. People think a little bit before you do shit like this, honestly why do you think grade school teachers would knock the hell out of you if you called someone a name?
18 weeks, that's about 4 and a half months or so isn't it? Seems about right for what he did.
As an autistic, I'm somewhat offended about how he blames his Asperger's syndrome for his actions. Of course what he did was even more despicable.
As an autistic, I'm somewhat offended about how he blames his Asperger's syndrome for his actions. Of course what he did was even more despicable.
He will only do 4 weeks.Dnaloiram said:
They give out these jail terms but very, very few people ever do the full stretch.
Normally for 18 weeks they do 4 then let them out.
It's the 28 day jail terms that make me giggle, 7 days and they are out again .... is there any point?
It definitely sounds like an overblown punishment, and I hope it is handled with responsibility. Still it also feels like a dream come true. What makes it most tempting is that with these new standards, we'd finally have the ability to prosecute those creeps from Westboro Baptist Church.
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I'll add to that too as a fellow AS, Asperger's has nothing to do with not knowing right from wrong at-all. This guy was a dick pure and simple and I'm glad he got such a harsh sentence, I'd be demanding the same if someone did a similar thing with one of my close relatives.gigastar said:
Where was he charged? I can see this from the American justice system, but not the English. I don't think this is particularly 'legal.'...
But screw it, that bastard deserves it. The judge may have gone a little overboard with the time, but what he was doing was disgusting.
But screw it, that bastard deserves it. The judge may have gone a little overboard with the time, but what he was doing was disgusting.
Hmm... If that's what people deserve for a bit of ridiculous ass-hattery, why aren't people being jailed for all the 9/11 jokes?hellflame said:
In total agreement with you Muffalopadus, it seriously makes me wonder how many people just opt'ed out of that section of American Government, which is a required class in High School. Free Speech is limited and it is sickening to see people like this troll who think that their constitutional rights give them the ability to be a total asshole; still, I'm glad he got this time and hope he gets more. I just look forward to the day when the anonymous status of the internet will stop empowering people to be assholes.Muffalopadus said:
I have to respectfully disagree. He's not being locked up because of his comment or the video. They're clearly trying to keep a loony off the streets. It's one thing to write a creepypasta or something about a person getting hit by a train and it accidentally being associated with the teenager's death. This guy deliberately posted cruel jokes on a subject that was focused on something extremely serious. And then he claimed Aspergers as a defense. I don't know about you but if this guy was living in my neighborhood, I would certainly like to know about it.Dnaloiram said:
I doubt that this system of punishment is going to last, but before it ends, we'd better use it against the WBC before they go picket at another funeral.