Internet troll is jailed after mocking deaths of teenagers online.

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Neaco

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newwiseman said:
Some people are way too sensitive, and that sounds funny as hell to the troll in me. Imagine if they jailed every troll. How fast would they be released due to overcrowding? less than 5 minutes is my bet.
they didn't just jail him. He's banned from social networking sites by court order and has to inform the police should he buy a phone with Internet access. That will probably be the way they handle trolls in the future.
 

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He tries to pin the blame on his Aspergers syndrome claiming he didn't know the effect he was causing on the victims family and friends. Now, I'm not an expert on the subject, but I'm pretty damn sure Aspergers sufferers know a sense of right from wrong.
I can attest to that, we usually have a more ingrained sense of personal moral than most people without autisms.

Also we dont nessesarily suffer due to it.
This, though I know that there is some emotional disssoneince, I don't think it's a legimate claim to this extent.

Regardless, "sending malicious communications" is a crime?

Is there a way he can appeal this? He's certainly an asshole, but it doesn't deserve jail time. The time, money, and jail cell used for this could be used for, say, a murderer.
 

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Well, considering how most trolls just try to get a response, I'm going to call bullshit on the Aspergers part. I mean, what better way to both almost get out of jail time and make a shit-ton of people uncomfortable than to claim you have aspergers in a situation like this. I mean no offense, but how can people really believe things known trolls say? I'm happy he's in jail. Frankly, I think he should have gotten a longer sentence with some sort of fine and a government sanctioned watching of his IP for a while.
 

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So why is Westboro Baptist Church allowed to protest military funerals? One guy can't mock one death but a group can do that? That guy is an asshole, but how is he worse than them?
 
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Iron Mal said:
The case of ignorant people on Facebook making harsh and cruel statements again comes under my 'in bad taste but not really worth taking serious action over' sentiment that I outlined earlier (it's unfortunate but there isn't much you can do about that).
But who decides where that line starts/stops? Just the amount of time it's happenend? Does that mean I can troll you for an hour a day?
If that was the best example you could think of to try and undermine my point then I think you might need to try a different angle.
Honestly I'm not in the habit of finding cases of people mocking others. I'm sure that you could pick any YouTube video of the death of someone and find mockers though.

In fact, I'd challenge you to find any YouTube about a death that doesn't have some douche-nozzle mocking it - repeatedly.

That doesn't make it a jailable offence. It just makes them a horrible human being. Which jail is only going to exaggerate.

What that person needs is help. And an unemployed Aspergers sufferer already needed that.

And like others have said, if mocking people repeatedly is a jailable offence, then Westboro Church, Glenn Beck and even Yahtzee would have been jailed a LONG time ago.
 

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Well it's not right for him to do such things. Being a dick "person person" I believe shouldn't get you throw in jail, but being a dick in a place/page which is there as a tribute to some, well I can't say I give much of a toss of he is in jail. Where to draw the line I guess?

Maybe at repeat offenders.

I assume he was aware of his actions and the emotions he has caused.

As fucking up some ones emotions when they are mourning can't be good for mental health, must almost be like torture. If I had lost someone and some scum starting mocking my loss, I would probably want to splatter their guts on a wall and if they kept mocking I think it would drive me slightly insane, so yeah throw him in a cell for a while.

"Pen is mightier than the sword" if you believe that and also that a murderer deserves to go to jail then surely you think that such distasteful trolls should go in a cell for a while.

Tired and ranting, sorry if I've missed a massive flaw in my post.
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
Is there a way he can appeal this? He's certainly an asshole, but it doesn't deserve jail time. The time, money, and jail cell used for this could be used for, say, a murderer.
Do they have a lot of murderers they can't currently find lodging for? Like, they were coming up to the door with a baggage train of murderers, and they jail was all "No, we're sorry, we had to find a cell for the internet kid", and so all the murderers were turned loose?

I don't think the jails can really afford to make room for this idiot, either, and I think there were more constructive ways to punish him (A beating! Beat hiiiiim) but this argument strikes me as pretty hilarious.
 

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I.N.producer said:
So why is Westboro Baptist Church allowed to protest military funerals? One guy can't mock one death but a group can do that? That guy is an asshole, but how is he worse than them?
Because it's two different countries with two different criminal codespleasereadthefuckingthreadthishasbeenaskedamilliontimes.
 
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BarbaricGoose said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Jail?

Are we gonna start jailing people who call each other "fatty" or "four-eyes" next?

How about moderating comments better?
You realize what a preposterous, exaggerated stretch that is, right?
Yes, it's exaggeration to underline a point. Where exactly does one start and the other stop? Because if you can't state that, then you can't legislate it.
 

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Dnaloiram said:
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Now that's what I call justice!
EeveeElectro said:
Now, I'm not an expert on the subject, but I'm pretty damn sure Aspergers sufferers know a sense of right from wrong.
Four months of time for a man with Aspergers? We are thinking of the same disorder, right? The one where sufferers have no idea how to communicate properly?
No, aspergers is a higher functioning disorder in the autism spectrum. The only way that he wouldn't communicate is if no one taught him how, which is too egregious of an error for anyone to look past.
He's looking for an excuse because he feels that he is always right. I've seen this sort of thing from autistic people way too many times before.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Yes, it's exaggeration to underline a point. Where exactly does one start and the other stop? Because if you can't state that, then you can't legislate it.
I see this is needed again.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slippery-slope.html
 

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I understand that this is morally bankrupt and terrible and all that... But I kinda feel like this is dangerously close to (if not already) stepping on our first amendment rights... But I mean, this was in Britain, right? Same laws don't apply. Still, something just doesn't feel right about it.

But hey, do the crime, do the time.
 

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psychodynamica said:
So wait, this guy says something that is pretty sick but there are people who make a living denying shit like the holocaust ever happened.
Denying that the Holocause of the Jews happened is illegal in the UK.
The leader of the British National Party nearly got done for it at one point and had to shovel a tonne of bullshit to make it sound like that wasn't the case (as politicians are good at).
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Yes, it's exaggeration to underline a point. Where exactly does one start and the other stop? Because if you can't state that, then you can't legislate it.
I see this is needed again.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slippery-slope.html
Saved me a good deal of time. I'll be bookmarking that.

Thank you!
 

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Gonna break out one of my favorite quotes here:
"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
--attributed to Voltaire by S. G. Tallentyre
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
BarbaricGoose said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Jail?

Are we gonna start jailing people who call each other "fatty" or "four-eyes" next?

How about moderating comments better?
You realize what a preposterous, exaggerated stretch that is, right?
Yes, it's exaggeration to underline a point. Where exactly does one start and the other stop? Because if you can't state that, then you can't legislate it.
Let me put this into perspective. Your statement is as hyperbolic as saying that all video games that aren't completely innocuous because of the games that have been banned for excessive violence.
 

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sageoftruth said:
Still it also feels like a dream come true. What makes it most tempting is that with these new standards, we'd finally have the ability to prosecute those creeps from Westboro Baptist Church.
We can only hope. This guy did time for blatantly harassing the dead girls loved ones, and all the WBC does is blatantly harass dead peoples loved ones. With this new precedent (1 incident=4 months), I think we can put the entire WBC away for about 7 lifetimes.