Is 18 too young to be bitter?
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I started that at 15.
Best to learn quick, you might get dicked over so do it anyway. Get as much fun out of it as possible. Get over failure quick and have fun. You'll be lot more bitter at 30 looking back at wasted time.
Life gives ya a lot of shit, best thing is don't stare at the pile, shovel it in a bag throw it away and go on to the next adventure. See life like a Jay and Silent Bob movie and just try and stay happy.
Best to learn quick, you might get dicked over so do it anyway. Get as much fun out of it as possible. Get over failure quick and have fun. You'll be lot more bitter at 30 looking back at wasted time.
Life gives ya a lot of shit, best thing is don't stare at the pile, shovel it in a bag throw it away and go on to the next adventure. See life like a Jay and Silent Bob movie and just try and stay happy.
Shit happens to everybody bro, doesn't have an age restriction.
i've been cynically bitter towards people in general for years, so your doing just fine.
normally i'd say chin up, but your bitter already so ill just say life will continue on in the same fashion it always does: By fucking someone
that someone occasionally being you..... Or me..... Or a small, fat child in the states. At once.
i've been cynically bitter towards people in general for years, so your doing just fine.
normally i'd say chin up, but your bitter already so ill just say life will continue on in the same fashion it always does: By fucking someone
that someone occasionally being you..... Or me..... Or a small, fat child in the states. At once.
Heh, I don't really know that anything I said would be particularly... motivating. But I appreciate it just the same. I'm creeping toward thirty, so I guess around here that qualifies me as a "mean old man." But yeah, once you get over the initial shock of the world's many inconsistencies, you'll start to find the good stuff.Cobbs said:You should be a motivational speaker of some description.
If I could offer one bit of more motivational advice? Don't let your career path define you. The biggest lie we're told growing up is that we've got to get a job "doing what we love," which leads us to the next lie: We must love our jobs. When we don't, it's like hitting 18 all over again, and we think the whole world's a big fat lie.
Get a job you can do well. Maybe one that you enjoy sometimes (but you won't love it every day). Do the shit out of that job, and then when the day is done, go home. Take off the hat, watch some TV, play some video games. Don't live the job. This cycle of job dissatisfaction is, I suspect, behind most of the bitterness that continues to grow in people after adulthood.
My personal goal, whenever someone asks me 'what I do for a living,' is to say, "I live. My job is what I do for money."
18, you say...
Do you have ambitions?
If yes, then that's it. You're surrounded by people with lower ambitions than you, and you can feel their weight pulling you down and preventing you from achieving your goals. This makes you a bitter and hateful person.
When you've ditched those people you'll begin to heal and be more at peace with the world.
That's my experience, at least.
Do you have ambitions?
If yes, then that's it. You're surrounded by people with lower ambitions than you, and you can feel their weight pulling you down and preventing you from achieving your goals. This makes you a bitter and hateful person.
When you've ditched those people you'll begin to heal and be more at peace with the world.
That's my experience, at least.
To quote Wikiquote, "A cynic is someone who takes off the rose-coloured glasses, snaps them in half, and has their vision immeasurably improved as a result."
I describe myself as a cynic rather than being bitter, because calling myself a cynic has a cool and alternative feel to it, while calling myself bitter makes me sound like a whiny little tosser.
I'm 15, by the way. Never to early to sell your soul, in my opinion.
I describe myself as a cynic rather than being bitter, because calling myself a cynic has a cool and alternative feel to it, while calling myself bitter makes me sound like a whiny little tosser.
I'm 15, by the way. Never to early to sell your soul, in my opinion.
I think we should look at this in another way.
What is "bitter"? Is this for some reason a continuous emotion or mindset?
Could it be that calling ourselves "bitter" is just an excuse? Just something we can say to catalogize ourselves, to say "Alright, Im bitter. That's What I Am", and then stop thinking about it? Accepting it?
I think it seems far more reasonable to accept bitterness as an emotion: Temporary. I believe all emotions are temporary. Even falling in love with someone at first sight only to live your entire life with that very person is temporary. It's not always been there, and even at times when you know you love, you may doubt it. That is what I choose to call temporary: Anything that is not permanent.
This problem seems so common. Us, young people, considering ourselves unhappy, because we're using one word as our defining characteristic; Im BITTER. Im DEPRESSED. Im ASOCIAL.
I have my experiences with bitterness, depression and sadness. Since two years back Ive been diagnosed with OCD and Cyclothymia. And when I first found out about my illness, I made the mistake of defining myself with it. "Alright," I thought, "Im depressed and a mentally unstable person."
But I came to realize that sadness only exists if you allow it to exist. Sometimes I suppose you even have to. This also applies to being "Bitter".
I mean, just look at the title of this thread. "Is 18 too young to be bitter?"
Immediately, I get the impression youre ASKING if you can be bitter, if youre allowed to be bitter. That's just strange. It's as if we assume that there is one permanent emotion in life. A life of Love. A Life of Sadness. A Life of anger. In our pursuit of a good life and a life we enjoy, we are sometimes so desperate or afraid that we wont find the life we're looking for, which is unrealistic, that we settle for one single emotion. Or, atleast one main emotion. Such as bitterness.
Life should rather be seen as a continuous flow of moments, each one with their individual truth and emotion. Day one, I am happy because I kissed my girlfriend. Day two, I am unhappy because me and my girlfriend got into a fight. Even people who find safety and familiarity in calling themselves lonely are unable to escape the fact that life isnt rigid: Life is like truth, always changing. Day one, I am happy because I enjoy being single. Day two, I am sad because I sleep alone in my bed.
Nowadays it annoys me that people call themselves bitter or asocial as their primary characteristic. They dont need to. Calling yourself one particular emotion is just a waste of time, a temporary solution to a temporary problem, and not even a particularily good one. This works the other way too: A man should not consider himself happy. It will just make him question whether or not he is. Trying to lead a fixed life leads to uncertainty and insecurity. Leading a life where you adapt, and accept the different emotions that are thrown at you every day seems to me a lot more reasonable.
Look, its late and Im tired... Not sure if i got everything i wanted to say written down. hopefully, you'll understand my point of view nevertheless.
EDIT: A cynic, of course, understands a part of this. He looks at life critically and judges what he can.
However, he is still not free of that particular mindset. He has still chosen to call himself a cynic, or a critic. And that removes some of his freedom. A cynic is a person too attached to the old idea of a rigid life of one truth, to accept the newer idea of life as a continuous stream of moments and truths, too attatched to completely let those old ideals go. As a result, he might live the same life of someone who has accepted and embraced the new idea, but still he is not completely free, since he considers himself a cynic. He is trying to achieve formlessness through form, which is impossible.
At least, that's what I think.
What is "bitter"? Is this for some reason a continuous emotion or mindset?
Could it be that calling ourselves "bitter" is just an excuse? Just something we can say to catalogize ourselves, to say "Alright, Im bitter. That's What I Am", and then stop thinking about it? Accepting it?
I think it seems far more reasonable to accept bitterness as an emotion: Temporary. I believe all emotions are temporary. Even falling in love with someone at first sight only to live your entire life with that very person is temporary. It's not always been there, and even at times when you know you love, you may doubt it. That is what I choose to call temporary: Anything that is not permanent.
This problem seems so common. Us, young people, considering ourselves unhappy, because we're using one word as our defining characteristic; Im BITTER. Im DEPRESSED. Im ASOCIAL.
I have my experiences with bitterness, depression and sadness. Since two years back Ive been diagnosed with OCD and Cyclothymia. And when I first found out about my illness, I made the mistake of defining myself with it. "Alright," I thought, "Im depressed and a mentally unstable person."
But I came to realize that sadness only exists if you allow it to exist. Sometimes I suppose you even have to. This also applies to being "Bitter".
I mean, just look at the title of this thread. "Is 18 too young to be bitter?"
Immediately, I get the impression youre ASKING if you can be bitter, if youre allowed to be bitter. That's just strange. It's as if we assume that there is one permanent emotion in life. A life of Love. A Life of Sadness. A Life of anger. In our pursuit of a good life and a life we enjoy, we are sometimes so desperate or afraid that we wont find the life we're looking for, which is unrealistic, that we settle for one single emotion. Or, atleast one main emotion. Such as bitterness.
Life should rather be seen as a continuous flow of moments, each one with their individual truth and emotion. Day one, I am happy because I kissed my girlfriend. Day two, I am unhappy because me and my girlfriend got into a fight. Even people who find safety and familiarity in calling themselves lonely are unable to escape the fact that life isnt rigid: Life is like truth, always changing. Day one, I am happy because I enjoy being single. Day two, I am sad because I sleep alone in my bed.
Nowadays it annoys me that people call themselves bitter or asocial as their primary characteristic. They dont need to. Calling yourself one particular emotion is just a waste of time, a temporary solution to a temporary problem, and not even a particularily good one. This works the other way too: A man should not consider himself happy. It will just make him question whether or not he is. Trying to lead a fixed life leads to uncertainty and insecurity. Leading a life where you adapt, and accept the different emotions that are thrown at you every day seems to me a lot more reasonable.
Look, its late and Im tired... Not sure if i got everything i wanted to say written down. hopefully, you'll understand my point of view nevertheless.
EDIT: A cynic, of course, understands a part of this. He looks at life critically and judges what he can.
However, he is still not free of that particular mindset. He has still chosen to call himself a cynic, or a critic. And that removes some of his freedom. A cynic is a person too attached to the old idea of a rigid life of one truth, to accept the newer idea of life as a continuous stream of moments and truths, too attatched to completely let those old ideals go. As a result, he might live the same life of someone who has accepted and embraced the new idea, but still he is not completely free, since he considers himself a cynic. He is trying to achieve formlessness through form, which is impossible.
At least, that's what I think.
I think that during childhood and adolescence is when a person goes through the quickest changes in life, so generally have a lot of stuff going on.
Also, when you're young is when you create your own view of the world and if you've taken shit from everyone then it's going to turn into a pretty bitter view indeed. I think it takes longer for adults to change their opinions of the world than it does for teenagers to do so, and so your experiences when you are younger have a larger impact on your views.
I'm 18 and I am equally bitter, however during my brooding I've thought about it quite extensively to come to that simple conclusion.
Also, when you're young is when you create your own view of the world and if you've taken shit from everyone then it's going to turn into a pretty bitter view indeed. I think it takes longer for adults to change their opinions of the world than it does for teenagers to do so, and so your experiences when you are younger have a larger impact on your views.
I'm 18 and I am equally bitter, however during my brooding I've thought about it quite extensively to come to that simple conclusion.
The world can be a shitty place at any age.
Allthought people in your age have a habit of seeing things worse than they actually are. It's a natural thing.
Allthought people in your age have a habit of seeing things worse than they actually are. It's a natural thing.
Hm... maybe if its someting big. If someone walked up and shot your dog in the head, I'm pretty sure that gives you a good reason to be bitter. Other then that, I think every age is too young to be bitter.
I know a lot of people who throw themselves around like they have a hole in their head just because some jerk picked on them in high school. They call themselves bitter. I hope that something as simple as that hasn't jaded you, because I can't imagine what real life is going to do to you.
I don't know what goes on in your lives, so this is mostly conjecture, but I'm willing to bet that most of you aren't bitter.
You're just bored.
I don't know what goes on in your lives, so this is mostly conjecture, but I'm willing to bet that most of you aren't bitter.
You're just bored.
That one line could easily /thread is topic.Nomanslander said:
Why be so bitter when you're so young? Go out, get smashed and make friends. Life's too short to be bitter.
Not at all. I'm 21, and I've been a very bitter person since I was 19. I try to hide it in public, for everyone else's sake, but inside and in my private life, I make Sweeney Todd look cheerful. I don't have any specific problems (none that everyone my age hasn't gone through, at least), but I'm just not as good at letting go of stuff as other people are, I suppose.
I'm pretty sure I was "bitter," by your definition, at the age of 12. I don't think you have much to worry about. How can anything be wrong with you? your just being a realist.Cobbs said:
feel free to angst, but don't let it consume you, as long as your little corner of the world is O.K everything else just comes together.
and now, because its kinda mandatory on this kind of thread
and now, because its kinda mandatory on this kind of thread
Age doesn't necesarrily have anything to do with it. Anyone can be bitter, no matter his/her age.
Funny, i'm 25 and my life hardly "kicks ass". Hell, i was better off 2-3-4 years ago.Baby Tea said: