Is a Lightsaber a Practical Weapon?

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dreadedcandiru99

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If you've got actual supernatural abilities, or if you're the main character in a movie, then sure. In real life? There's a reason why armies don't get into sword fights anymore.
 

madcap2112

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Rednog said:
madcap2112 said:
Joe Matsuda said:
no

nothing is practical when you have a deathstar on your side...
Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed...
Hey if the Deathstar was built now, it would be unstoppable, a little duct tape over that terrible flaw and it is good to go. No desert boys shooting torpedoes into the deathstar ever again.
...the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force...and perhaps a little duct tape, yeah.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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Actually, there are many MANY vehicles in the star wars universe, also very powerful. The thing about the light saber is, since every army uses lasers, they can be used as "deflectors" or shields. Also with force powers, have way beyond normal reflexes and senses, which makes them and the lightsaber a force (pun is obvious) to be reckoned with.
Yes, I noted the fact that vehicles were indeed present but within the fiction presented by the movies they were utterly useless when compared to the pathetic, modern equivalent. When air support is relegated to a small battery of anti-armor missiles and direct fire "laser" weaponry, one has to wonder just what they hoped to accomplish with such a payload. Modern aircraft deliver ordinance of far greater lethality from far greater range than was ever demonstrated in the movies. The vehicles that are presented on the ground present just as many problems. The AT-At for example wields a weapon that appears to be less effective at dispatching infantry than a simple MK-19 and oddly enough the vehicle can barely turn AND has a narrow field of fire. There are design compromises and then there are deathtraps waiting to happen - the AT-At falls decisively into the latter category. Some of the newer vehicles at least attept to present a purpose but you find vehicles that that odd two wheeled rocket launching vehicle fielded by the Droid armies and inevitably must be left wondering who the hell through it was a good idea to design a platform only useful on open ground that had a natural field of fire restricted to the direct front.

Moreover, the assertion that the armies in star wars are fielding lasers makes the concept of using a hand held implement as a "shield" even more laughable. Even if you grant jedi super human movement capabilities (as they obviously possess) you have to realize they can only block perhaps two shots arriving simultaneously and thanks to the speed at which the attack moves, you quickly realize they rely entirely on their capacity to predict where the shot will land before it is even fire.

But even this presents one with yet another argument that supports my assertion. Since the deflective capabilities of the weapon rely on countering an energy based attack, and it is known that you WILL face jedi from time to time, why does no army seem to field mass driver weapons (which exist in the star wars universe) to readily dispatch them? Yes, it may take several gunners to do the job but when the jedi is relgated to simply attempting to dodge an attack and is denied the use of their most potent form of defense, they would crumble quickly.

This is my point - the weapon is ONLY useful because those who wield it possess magical super powers and those who oppose them utterly refuse to actually come up with an effective plan to combat them when options already exist within the canon.
 

Joe Matsuda

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madcap2112 said:
Joe Matsuda said:
madcap2112 said:
Joe Matsuda said:
no

nothing is practical when you have a deathstar on your side...
Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed...
what? the empire isn't so bad... I mean, have you seen the American Govt.?
...the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

And as I recall, the Empire was brought down by small, furry creatures. So, too, will the American Empire...but probably not.
alright, alright, so we were overconfident that we would win and let our guard down...way down...

and besides, we gots the force too, ya know...

oh yeah, do you have force lightning and force choke?
 

A random person

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Echer123 said:
A lightsaber in real life would not have a stopping point.

It would just continue on in whichever direction it's pointed at.

Therefore, it would be completely useless, unless you had to take out an entire army.
I've run into the exact same problem when imagining a theoretical lightsaber, so this.

If you somehow got it working without all the physics problems, however, I'd say it's somewhat practical if you knew how to use it (and that's a pretty big obstacle considering how it cuts things on contact), though a blaster is better in the hands of someone who can aim, what with the range and all.
 

GODoftheRIGOVERSE

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"Clerks moment"

No because you can't sharpen a light saber to cut through another because one the fight would end too soon and two they cut throught everything so theres no sharpening rock or blacksmith who could do anything about that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6lzEhoXads
 

Silk_Sk

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It's about as practical as a chainsaw-rocket launcher. Now excuse me while I go make firewood from my patio.
 

empirialtank

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Eclectic Dreck said:
The lightsabre is hardly a practical weapon. Effectively what you have a sword of infinite sharpness, but even an especially lethal sword is still noting BUT a sword. For those who have not noticed, most armies around the world relegated the weapon to a ceremonial role because in the face of the terrifying amounts of firepower on the modern battlefield, the ability to slash away at point blank is virtually irrelevent.

The weapon only gains a margin of utility when you consider it is traditionally wielded by people with magical superpowers. The ability of a sword to deflect a projectile is only handy if a person is capable of correctly predicting where a bullet will arrive because, thanks to a strange quirk of reality, bullets move far faster than a person. Even within the narrative of the universe, the weapon only retains it's utility because the entire concept of "combined arms" is utterly lost on the armies of the future past in a galaxy far, far away. Yes, there ARE vehicles present, but none of them are actually armed with weaponry with any serious amount of firepower. There does not appear to be any common weapon system (within the movies obviously) that fulfills the role of indirect fire, air support is about as effective as it was in the first world war and armored units are protected by flimsy bits of cracker. As such, the weapon becomes effective in the Star Wars universe because of a combination of magical super powers and an utter disregard for how a war is effectively fought.
Right hate to burst your bubble but if you recheck the Star Wars: Clone Wars (the old animated version not the new CGI one) you will see that heavy artillery, close air support, heavy armor, coordinated black ops, and to a limited extent calvery charges play a key part of combat in the Star Wars universe. Even in attack of the Clones you can see the use of combined weapons both with close air support and long range artillery being used by the clones to blast through the droid armies. But your point stands and infact it goes a little bit farther.

The light saber is not a praticle weapon in any way shape or form even in the hands of Jedi it is incredibly ineffective. The lightsaber was probably adopted by the Jedi as a way to controll themselves by limiting their combat abilities so that Jedi would be more likely to negotiate a peaceful resolution to a situation rather than to simply kill anyone they deemed wrong. The uselessness of a lightsaber against any group of enemies numbering more of then say 60 foes can clearly be seen in the battle of Geonosis.
 

tkioz

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cool, very, practical no.

If I was going to design a weapon for close combat it would be something more akin to a vibroblade, or more likely a vibro-bayonet. Honestly close combat is the last resort of any serious battle, unless you're sneaking up behind someone you should be taking their head off a long way out.

I never got how the jedi lived so long, honestly a modern earth army could take them out, stand 300-400 meters away, keep moving back as they come at you firing, they can't dodge/block everything all the time, as the saying goes they have to be lucky every time, you only need to be lucky once.
 

tkioz

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Eclectic Dreck said:
awsome117 said:
Actually, there are many MANY vehicles in the star wars universe, also very powerful. The thing about the light saber is, since every army uses lasers, they can be used as "deflectors" or shields. Also with force powers, have way beyond normal reflexes and senses, which makes them and the lightsaber a force (pun is obvious) to be reckoned with.
Yes, I noted the fact that vehicles were indeed present but within the fiction presented by the movies they were utterly useless when compared to the pathetic, modern equivalent. When air support is relegated to a small battery of anti-armor missiles and direct fire "laser" weaponry, one has to wonder just what they hoped to accomplish with such a payload. Modern aircraft deliver ordinance of far greater lethality from far greater range than was ever demonstrated in the movies. The vehicles that are presented on the ground present just as many problems. The AT-At for example wields a weapon that appears to be less effective at dispatching infantry than a simple MK-19 and oddly enough the vehicle can barely turn AND has a narrow field of fire. There are design compromises and then there are deathtraps waiting to happen - the AT-At falls decisively into the latter category. Some of the newer vehicles at least attept to present a purpose but you find vehicles that that odd two wheeled rocket launching vehicle fielded by the Droid armies and inevitably must be left wondering who the hell through it was a good idea to design a platform only useful on open ground that had a natural field of fire restricted to the direct front.

Moreover, the assertion that the armies in star wars are fielding lasers makes the concept of using a hand held implement as a "shield" even more laughable. Even if you grant jedi super human movement capabilities (as they obviously possess) you have to realize they can only block perhaps two shots arriving simultaneously and thanks to the speed at which the attack moves, you quickly realize they rely entirely on their capacity to predict where the shot will land before it is even fire.

But even this presents one with yet another argument that supports my assertion. Since the deflective capabilities of the weapon rely on countering an energy based attack, and it is known that you WILL face jedi from time to time, why does no army seem to field mass driver weapons (which exist in the star wars universe) to readily dispatch them? Yes, it may take several gunners to do the job but when the jedi is relgated to simply attempting to dodge an attack and is denied the use of their most potent form of defense, they would crumble quickly.

This is my point - the weapon is ONLY useful because those who wield it possess magical super powers and those who oppose them utterly refuse to actually come up with an effective plan to combat them when options already exist within the canon.
I agree completely, I've only read a handful of Sci-Fi novels, and never seen a Scif-Fi movie/TV series, that addressed that current earth armies could beat their "empires" like red headed step children, they use tactics that were going out of fashion in the Napoleonic wars, carry slow firing in effective weapons, the list just goes on and on, if you know anything at all about tactics Sci-Fi battles make you /facepalm
 

empirialtank

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Right about this whole line of thought that Electric Dreck is suggesting that modern weapons are more effective weapon then what Star Wars has to offer I think that your over looking a very key fact, mainly that in the Star Wars universe deffensive technology has also evolved quite a bit. The Ability of a bomber to drop hundreds of tons of high explosives over long distances is useless when the enemy has huge deflector shields and long range lazers guided by radar systems accurate enough to dectect enemy ships entering the solar system from hyperspace that can litterally knock rockets and bombs out of the air. Case and point, see the Phantom Menace. Heavy bombardment and air support (Both of which are obsolete when compared to the huge firepower an Imperial Star Destroyer can deliver from space) is useless when the enemy can just flip a switch and set up a huge sheild system. At the same time though, the sheilds have to be able to allow physical objects to slowly defuse through or else a ground army would use up all its oxygen, while the enemy pinned them down, and would sufficate. If you take this into consideration then suddenly Phalanx like war machines like the ATAT, close support vehicles like the Scout Walkers, and you standard ground squads of Imperial infantry become vital to the battle strategy, you need close quarter fire power to get in through an enemies shields and take them down so that you can then safely blast them out of existence from space. Its like Dune, the persional energy shield makes all long range weapons obsolete and so the rapier comes back into style, save that starwars doesn't have personal shields just massive base sheilds.
 

FluffRat

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It is very practical as a tool for demolitions, entry, and to a limited degree CQB. As such it should be issued at the squad level right along with other special weapons such as grenade launchers and light machine guns.
 

Lord Beautiful

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With proper swordsmanship and getting a feel for using a weapon whose weight comes only from its handle, it could be pretty damn effective. Maybe.
 

SulfuricDonut

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I lightsaber would not be a practical weapon in a large battle or at range, however any short focused lazer would be an invaluable tool in many other circumstances, for its ability to cut through anything. Since they weigh only like 1 pound, it would always be wise to carry with you.