A terrorist is:a radical who employs terror as a weapon
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I rest my case.Name Witheld said:
Is Anonymous a terrorist group
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Define Terrorist!
By my thinking it is a person or group who uses indiscriminate acts of violence or murder to push a political, religious or social agenda.
So by that reasoning no. Anonymous is not a terrorist group. Neither is Julian Assange for that matter. The tendency for politicians to label anyone working against their views as a terrorist is disgrace. Thankfully it reveals, for those of us possessed by a brain cell or two, who the idiotic idealogs are.
By my thinking it is a person or group who uses indiscriminate acts of violence or murder to push a political, religious or social agenda.
So by that reasoning no. Anonymous is not a terrorist group. Neither is Julian Assange for that matter. The tendency for politicians to label anyone working against their views as a terrorist is disgrace. Thankfully it reveals, for those of us possessed by a brain cell or two, who the idiotic idealogs are.
No, as a group, they are not. But as a group, like any group, they have extremists. A select few members of the group do take shit too far. Some of them are bastards, some of them are just channing out of boredom or just for a cheap laugh, it wouldn't be fair to label all of them as cyber terrorists.
Besides, not all of the stuff they have done is bad, the kid to beat the shit out of his cat on youtube? Brought down by 4chan and taken to the police, there's a few similar stories of them finding criminals and the likes. They take it too far sometimes but not everything they do it completely wrong. And if you ask me Jessie Slaughter needed taking down a peg or twelve.
Besides, not all of the stuff they have done is bad, the kid to beat the shit out of his cat on youtube? Brought down by 4chan and taken to the police, there's a few similar stories of them finding criminals and the likes. They take it too far sometimes but not everything they do it completely wrong. And if you ask me Jessie Slaughter needed taking down a peg or twelve.
'Tis true that's it a broad definition and vague, but that is essentially what a terrorist is. I don't think that, let's say, the American Army are terrorists because they use terror as a weapon but that's because my perception is changed to see them as the "good guys" while someone that is for something that can kill a lot of innocents is the "evil guys". But if we asked Terrorists if the American Army was a terrorist organization based on the definition, then they would, maybe, say yes.senataur said:
No.
1. Anon isn't a group - it's a label we give to any anonymous action on the internet, even when it doesn't involve /b/ at all.
2. Terrorists use violence/threats of to further political goals. Do I need to explain this?
2a. Utilizing the term "terrorist" to describe hacking, and sometimes simply flooding sites, is pushing the term so far that we might as well get it over with and start calling anyone we dislike a terrorist.
1. Anon isn't a group - it's a label we give to any anonymous action on the internet, even when it doesn't involve /b/ at all.
2. Terrorists use violence/threats of to further political goals. Do I need to explain this?
2a. Utilizing the term "terrorist" to describe hacking, and sometimes simply flooding sites, is pushing the term so far that we might as well get it over with and start calling anyone we dislike a terrorist.
Under the actual definition of terrorism, no, they aren't. Now, I don't know if the American government has a different definition than the real definition, but if they do, it is entirely possible that they would fall under that. Also, due to the general nature of Anonymous, a sort of drop in, drop out, union of real life trolls (even if they are trolling for good causes) it would be very difficult to definitively tie someone to the acts of "terrorism".
Thats pretty much how i feel when people use the term a bit too far in the news, papers etc.MaxwellEdison said:
As a group no. Most of the individuals, or at least the ones you hear about, can probably be labeled terrorists. Most of them probably aren't worth the time and resources it would take to catch them anyway.
Thanks for explaining that to me. I've been stepping on eyes and ears all day. I was wondering who left them here. Jeez.vrbtny said:
Anonymous is many things, but it is not a terrorist group. To the best of my knowledge they do not indiscriminately employ violence against civilians to achieve their political or ideological objectives. They don't like Scientology, but they like Wikileaks; however, they have not used violence against anyone to further these causes. Until the body count starts piling up, they are pranksters at best.
Anonymous is a title, not a group. It's not the same people every time there is a DDoS attack or a raid, it's not the same people that organize the operations... it's just a title for people to use to any effect they wish.
Regardless, they are what you might call terrorists, if terrorists are just groups that governments don't like(I mean... that's definitely what it seems like). This is despite the intentions often found in Anonymous operations, those being advocation of freedom of speech, expression, and information.
Regardless, they are what you might call terrorists, if terrorists are just groups that governments don't like(I mean... that's definitely what it seems like). This is despite the intentions often found in Anonymous operations, those being advocation of freedom of speech, expression, and information.
Anonymous is only a terrorist if they cause you terror, which they shouldn't. Anonymous is a direct democracy, even more advanced than our modern day republics. The force of their attacks is exactly correlated to the number of people who wish to participate. Anyone can be anonymous: there is no application, there is no password. It is just a group of people with similar ideals who choose to participate.
This is true democracy. This is true freedom of speech.
This is true democracy. This is true freedom of speech.
Most of the stuff they do isn't terrorism, per se, but they slipped over the line when they decided to dos attack e-commerce sites out of protest of incarceration of someone [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/105954-Anonymous-Declares-Infowar-on-Wikileaks-Opponents]. Basically, if you do a political action to which you can assign it a lot of monetary damage, congratulations, you've committed a qualified terrorist act.
Funny thing about anonymous, though, if the FBI did catch some specific people behind those DOS attacks and jail them, they'd probably be pointing and laughing at their incarcerated former anonymous as a source of epic LOLs. They're not really a single unified movement, more an delinquent outgrowth of Internet youth culture, one that generally thinks tragedy is funny.
Funny thing about anonymous, though, if the FBI did catch some specific people behind those DOS attacks and jail them, they'd probably be pointing and laughing at their incarcerated former anonymous as a source of epic LOLs. They're not really a single unified movement, more an delinquent outgrowth of Internet youth culture, one that generally thinks tragedy is funny.