Is Archery the new thing?

[Broady Brio]

I've tried to shoot an arrow once. NEVER AGAIN.

Archery is definitley something you can't just "pick up."

 

[SckizoBoy]

It's really not that hard to hold a bow in the correct position, it'd take them maybe 5 minutes with an archery professional to get the pose, and maybe a day firing at targets to be good at it. For something with a budget like the Hunger Games, that's nothing.

Uh, actually, it kind of is... hell, even some long-time archers get it wrong in certain ways. However, these shortcomings are generally well compensated for (i.e. hidden) by the low-poundage of the bows used (so that the actor can maintain full-draw and/or theatrical necessities/licence taken).

It's not like there's only one way to hold a bow. There's lots of different techniques in the world.

True, but there are several tenets that hold true regardless of 'school of archery', failure of adherence typically leading to a fucked shoulder or two. Media representations typically skirt over this for reasons already alluded to plus the fact that it's too much of a chore to get it right.

Sweet Jesus... I saw Hunger Games a while back, I regret that immensely, but more importantly, Holy shit you're right, Neither of her hands are doing anything remotely correct in terms of archery. The hand on the string looks like she's got 3 fingers underneath (which is all well and good despite the fact that the pinkie isn't meant to be one of the 3) but what the hell is she doing with her thumb and index finger touching the top of the darn arrow? And her hand on the actual bow isn't much better, she's guaranteed to send the arrow way off course.

I read the first couple sentences and went back to look at that pic... and by god what the fuck is she doing?! Her right hand's fine, but she's clearly not anchoring. And as for the left hand, I think it's a full-draw PHAIL, as her nock-side fingers have pushed the arrow off the rest and that picture was taken as the arrow was dropping behind her left hand. Least that's really what it looks like.

I love my little carbine.

... uh, are you a dragoon or something?! -_-

We were doing bows before all yo' suckers!

LOL, the difference being that IRL Robin Hood actually sucked as an archer... would've barely scraped Third Class GNAS by modern standards! =P

OT: Yeah, I'll go with the above...

Still, I'll add my grievances that when compound archery is portrayed... no release aids, never any fucking release aids!!

And recurve archery, I'm too accustomed to hearing clicks... there're never any clickers shown. A good short deserves to be preceded by a *click*!!

Having said that, Orlando Bloom did it pretty convincingly.

 

[subtlefuge]

Archery isn't in. People who don't know how to hold a fucking bow are in. Specifically the hunger games chick. That is mind-fuckingly bad.

Not nearly as bad as Marvel's greatest archer needing 2 more armguards than most people who have taken a handful of archery classes a single archery class. At least the Hunger Games chick has an excuse, with weapon training being illegal and all.

Still, it's all awful.

Just turn your fucking elbow Renner. Geez.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Archery is definitley something you can't just "pick up."

Yup. Almost my entire first lesson was spent on posture exercises. It took about 50 minutes before I shot my first arrow.

 

[ReadyAmyFire]

... uh, are you a dragoon or something?! -_-

Ha I wish, it's just this little thing, only with silver barrel/scope.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Ruger-1022.jpg

 

[SckizoBoy]

Not nearly as bad as Marvel's greatest archer needing 2 more armguards than most people who have taken a handful of archery classes a single archery class. At least the Hunger Games chick has an excuse, with weapon training being illegal and all.

Still, it's all awful.

*pic snip*

Just turn your fucking elbow Renner. Geez.

Given your advice, no number of bracers would be sufficient...

Most either have a bracer on purely out of habit or comfort or don't have one at all.

Ha I wish, it's just this little thing, only with silver barrel/scope.

Well, that's rather cute... (somehow...(!))

Still, I only say that (joking, of course) because horseback archery mostly used a shorter composite bow so 'gun with short barrel' => dragoon.

...

Never mind me... -_-

 

[ReadyAmyFire]

Well, that's rather cute... (somehow...(!))

Still, I only say that (joking, of course) because horseback archery mostly used a shorter composite bow so 'gun with short barrel' => dragoon.

...

Never mind me... -_-

It has a silencer too

I like Welsh Longbows and the lanky samurai variants.

 

[SckizoBoy]

I like Welsh Longbows and the lanky samurai variants.

LOL... don't think kyudoka would take too well to you referring to yumi as 'lanky'! :3

As for me...

Spoiler: Hey there, sexy!

 

[Twilight_guy]

No. There have been archery super heroes forever and every fantasy hero seems to use either a big sword, an ax, or a bow. Its not any more hot then it was before.

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

I thought this thread was going to be about archery becoming a popular sport, not archery in the media. So a bit of a cock up on my part.

 

[Josufu]

I'm not good at archery, but I won't bow down to those who are.

And I'm not going to be strung along by the media, I hate it.

You mean, you don't think those guys should be calling the shots? Yeah, I agree with that.

Can't tell if really good counter-pun or serious..

>_>

Yes, I'm not exactly comfortable with some guy with a bow pulling the strings.

Is that Dora the Explorer?

If it is, I'm bolting it.

I'd say it's her, but it's a shot in the dark.

But anyway, if you're with me, enlisting others, so we can fight these archers who menace in the media. Quite frankly, I quiver at the thought of them.

We could try to, but it would be a bit of a hit and miss.

Damnit I'm running out here..

Well, we must always aim high.

(Me, too. Maybe we should stop before we shoot ourselves in the foot.)

Or the knee, we wouldn't want anything stopping our adventures now would we..

Oh, I don't know, your jokes have all been bull's-eyes so far, at least in my opinion.

 

[Patrick Buck]

No.

I may be wrong... But archery has been around for QUITE A WHILE.

Sarcasm aside, dunno, I just think one or two big films have used it recently, I don't think it's the herald of a new age. I doubt it will catch on. But I may be wrong.

 

[Bato]

I prefer crossbows myself.

And you almost never see them except for that one eventual guy in zombie movies who kills all the zombies without ever getting a horde on him.

 

[Cowabungaa]

I like Welsh Longbows and the lanky samurai variants.

LOL... don't think kyudoka would take too well to you referring to yumi as 'lanky'! :3

As for me...

Spoiler: Hey there, sexy!

Meh, compound bows. They look gorgeous, all the sexy mechanical stuff, but they make aiming and stuff way too easy from what I've heard. I mean, clicking arrows in place so you can aim at your leisure? Puh-lease, that's for wussies.

I thought this thread was going to be about archery becoming a popular sport, not archery in the media. So a bit of a cock up on my part.

Not really, as it is becoming more popular as a sport as well. At least over here it is.

 

[Chknboy]

It does seem to be trending a bit more recently. I got a bow this past Christmas but that was just because I'm a nerd and my parents mistook me saying that long bows were cool to actually getting me one. It's actually really satisfying to just mess around with some hay bales and target shooting.

 

[SckizoBoy]

Meh, compound bows. They look gorgeous, all the sexy mechanical stuff, but they make aiming and stuff way too easy from what I've heard. I mean, clicking arrows in place so you can aim at your leisure? Puh-lease, that's for wussies.

What do you mean by that?

Still regardless, compound archery brings a few techniques and difficulties of its own. The wall for one thing, the release and bear in mind that deviations in aim have a much greater effect on the shot than recurve shooting.

'sides, back when SW was still... uh, 'cool' we (by that I mean our county association) had the Junior Essex Development Initiative, but that was only for junior recurve archers (i.e. the majority) while us 'dark siders' had... well, our coaches at best. Ah well...

 

[The Heik]

Just wondering because

It seems to be the silent sell of some things.
Whatjathink?

It isn't.

The Hunger Games book come out years ago, Hawkeye is a decades old character, Brave is just keeping in setting, and the "arrow in the knee" malarky is just a meme caused by silly dialogue. The only one I'd say comes close to silent sell is Crysis, and even then it's a pretty weak sell considering the whole high tech theme of the series.

Honestly don't know what Crytek was thinking with putting a bow into a game where you fight aliens in power armour......

 

[subtlefuge]

Given your advice, no number of bracers would be sufficient...

Most either have a bracer on purely out of habit or comfort or don't have one at all.

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I've honestly read your post 30 or so times, and I have no clue what you are trying to say.

 

[Thedutchjelle]

Archery isn't in. People who don't know how to hold a fucking bow are in. Specifically the hunger games chick. That is mind-fuckingly bad.

This guy is a professional archery coach, he commented on a few trailers of movies with archers in 'm.
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/03/avengers-hawkeye-archery/
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/03/the-hunger-games-trailer/
He found the hunger game chick good (i haven't' seen the movie nor am I archer, so I can't tell) and hawk eye apparently sucked terribad.
Seeing as the female lead in Hunger Games was trained by a olympian athlete, I'd say they did the best the could

I don't mind archers. They can be cool.

 

[phantasmalWordsmith]

I must admit, today when I played monster hunter, I decided to use the bow. Just felt like it. I personally think its a coincidence, but I guess people just like the style of it. There's something about the angles and shape of a bow that just seems cool in my mind. I'm certain someone could explain it better.

Also. Bask in the gar

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