Is Archery the new thing?

[JoesshittyOs]

True, but there are several tenets that hold true regardless of 'school of archery', failure of adherence typically leading to a fucked shoulder or two. Media representations typically skirt over this for reasons already alluded to plus the fact that it's too much of a chore to get it right.

I just feel that I'm seeing too many people here who are throwing out their opinions because they feel that shooting a bow once makes you an expert.

It's one of the oldest armaments in the world that's managed to appear in nearly every major culture. The Native Americans, The Asians, The Greeks. Cultures that literally didn't have contact with each other for thousands of years.

I'm sure there was a few different ways to shoot a bow.

 

[mad825]

Archery is definitley something you can't just "pick up."

Yup. Almost my entire first lesson was spent on posture exercises. It took about 50 minutes before I shot my first arrow.

The Bow was made to be a pick up and fire weapon. Mass made for low skilled archers in war.

No.

The biggest hinder of the bow is the draw weight. Typically in a training lesson you will be pulling 10-21LB, experienced archers typically use 30-50lb while advanced archers will be pulling 55-180LB(70-180lbs are usually longbows).

The heavier the draw weight the further distances you can shoot with greater penetrating power. You just can't simply pick-up a 180lb bow and shoot it. To make things worse, long bows are light and I mean very light so when you start to draw you're holding arm starts to tip upwards if you're not used to the weight.

And of course, you need bow and arrows accustomed to the archer's draw-lenght.

My bow is around 34lb and I need to clout the fucking thing just to hit 100 yards. Crossbows you can just pick-up and shoot however you might end-up with a very bad back at the end of the day. It took me less than 3 minutes to learn

 

[Josufu]

I'm not good at archery, but I won't bow down to those who are.

And I'm not going to be strung along by the media, I hate it.

You mean, you don't think those guys should be calling the shots? Yeah, I agree with that.

Can't tell if really good counter-pun or serious..

>_>

Yes, I'm not exactly comfortable with some guy with a bow pulling the strings.

Is that Dora the Explorer?

If it is, I'm bolting it.

I'd say it's her, but it's a shot in the dark.

But anyway, if you're with me, enlisting others, so we can fight these archers who menace in the media. Quite frankly, I quiver at the thought of them.

We could try to, but it would be a bit of a hit and miss.

Damnit I'm running out here..

Well, we must always aim high.

(Me, too. Maybe we should stop before we shoot ourselves in the foot.)

Or the knee, we wouldn't want anything stopping our adventures now would we..

Oh, I don't know, your jokes have all been bull's-eyes so far, at least in my opinion.

You have a point. But sooner or later, I'm going to get the shaft :/

Indeed, it is dangerous to continue. You might be tarred and feathered.

 

[CODE-D]

Just wondering because

It seems to be the silent sell of some things.
Whatjathink?

It isn't.

The Hunger Games book come out years ago, Hawkeye is a decades old character, Brave is just keeping in setting, and the "arrow in the knee" malarky is just a meme caused by silly dialogue. The only one I'd say comes close to silent sell is Crysis, and even then it's a pretty weak sell considering the whole high tech theme of the series.

Honestly don't know what Crytek was thinking with putting a bow into a game where you fight aliens in power armour......

so all these coming out in the same year within months of each other is mere coincidence.
I smell a conspiracy..

 

[mad825]

I already talked about this, with the pullies on modern bows you can pull back 40_50 lbs relatively easily. And the bulk of an old armies archers would have had shor or composite bows. They were made for any old peasant to pick up and use. Long bows pretty much decided battles. But they were hardly the standard.

Don't really care about compounds, their legitimacy is rather questionable.

Nevertheless, you would still need around 30lb+ to be any useful and I can still remember the aches and pains Igot the first time I shot 5 dozen arrows. In either case, farmers would have experience because it was a hunting tool back then.

 

[Jeff Gennick]

Archery isn't in. People who don't know how to hold a fucking bow are in. Specifically the hunger games chick. That is mind-fuckingly bad.

Thank god! I thought I was the only one who noticed.

 

[darlarosa]

Hawkeye OBVIOIUSLY does not even count because he is an old character....

that said archery is fun, and I believe in terms of Brave archery was just a past time back then far more than now, and one of the few enjoyed by men and women equally through the ages.

 

[Lilani]

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I think it's a coincidence, albiet a very consistent one. All of these movies have been several years in the making, and not all of them took the same amount of time. But, they managed to all come out in the same year, making it the year of the bow.

 

[Lieju]

Archery has been a part of our media for quite a while, and with good reason. There's nothing particularly new about this trend.

^ This

Hawkeye and Green Arrow have been around for decades. Hawkeye is a staple of the Avengers, so that was bound to happen.

Of course anything in a fantasy setting is going to have archery, they can't exactly use AK47s, and it's the only practical ranged physical attacks.

A ton of games have bow & arrows or crossbows, been like this for as long as I can remember, Thief comes to mind.

That all aside, bows have been around in human history since nearly the beginning of civilization. They haven't exactly faded away like the trebuchet [for example] has, they are still commonly used for sport and hunting. By all means they should be prevalent in media.

Not to mention that they are considered less violent than guns. Probably because getting shot with an arrow is far less likely in real life than being shot with a gun. It's more removed from reality and more exotic. And you can depict the hero pinning the villain down with arrows or something without hurting them.

That's the reason super-heroes like Green Arrow and Hawkeye are considered to be more acceptable than if they shot people with a gun.
And I haven't seen Hunger games, but I suspect that's the reason she uses a bow.

 

[Antari]

I wouldn't say its the new thing. In the 1400's it was the new thing, but not so much now. Lately with all the complaints of guns on TV, the minor switch to a longbow seems to keep the censors at bay.

 

[mindlesspuppet]

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Not to mention that they are considered less violent than guns. Probably because getting shot with an arrow is far less likely in real life than being shot with a gun. It's more removed from reality and more exotic. And you can depict the hero pinning the villain down with arrows or something without hurting them.

That's the reason super-heroes like Green Arrow and Hawkeye are considered to be more acceptable than if they shot people with a gun.
And I haven't seen Hunger games, but I suspect that's the reason she uses a bow.

Might have to disagree on the less violent part. Sure we've all seen scenes in movies in games when a person gets riddled with bullets, but it seems so much more poignant and violent when a person gets taken down with arrows but struggles to keep going despite the shafts stick out their body. Not to mention there's a sort of brutality in yanking an arrow out of a victim's flesh to use again that guns simply can't match -- gathering my fired arrows in games gives me some sort of visceral pleasure that's hard to put into words.

You do definitely have a point about them being more removed from reality, at least as far as violence is concern. You don't tend to hear about drive bys or school shootings with crossbows. For that reason I think they are more acceptable than guns.

 

[Lieju]

snip...

Not to mention that they are considered less violent than guns. Probably because getting shot with an arrow is far less likely in real life than being shot with a gun. It's more removed from reality and more exotic. And you can depict the hero pinning the villain down with arrows or something without hurting them.

That's the reason super-heroes like Green Arrow and Hawkeye are considered to be more acceptable than if they shot people with a gun.
And I haven't seen Hunger games, but I suspect that's the reason she uses a bow.

Might have to disagree on the less violent part. Sure we've all seen scenes in movies in games when a person gets riddled with bullets, but it seems so much more poignant and violent when a person gets taken down with arrows but struggles to keep going despite the shafts stick out their body. Not to mention there's a sort of brutality in yanking an arrow out of a victim's flesh to use again that guns simply can't match -- gathering my fired arrows in games gives me some sort of visceral pleasure that's hard to put into words.

You do definitely have a point about them being more removed from reality, at least as far as violence is concern. You don't tend to hear about drive bys or school shootings with crossbows. For that reason I think they are more acceptable than guns.

They can be violent, but if you depict anything with a lot of blood and guts, you can make it more violent. I guess 'violent', is a wrong word.
Rather, they are easier to make kid-friendly than guns, even if you depict them 'realistically' without any magical qualities or extra powers.
Just like punching people is generally more kid-friendly than stabbing someone, even though you can depict someone beating up a person with a lot of realism and gore.

Also, I'm guessing, that having a character use a bow will get you a lower rating than a gun. Even if there's no blood and the victim dies the same way.

 

[Ledan]

Huh, time to get into crossbows then. Stay ahead of the trend.

 

[StBishop]

I was into Bowing once.....
then i hit my dog.....
dog got a case of dead....
oooohhhh fuck.... no stunt dog...

Never done it since then.



Oh but i still do archery. Have been for 10 years now. Still can't hit shit.

You have a terrible teacher probably.

I was able to manage 10 ends of 60 points each consistently from 18 metres after about 3 months due to my teacher being good at what he does and not letting me get away with a single shot with bad form.

 

[Squilookle]

No, wait... that's not it...

Er... closer, but still...

Damn we're close but wait....

THERE we go. Archery is alive and well- if you know where to look

 

[uneek]

Seriously, guys? How can everyone not see that there is a pattern of archer characters in TV Shows and Movies? Brave, The Avengers, The Hunger Games, the new Green Arrow tv show, and all those new video games with bow and arrow features are not proof enough?

Captcha: "case closed" thank you, captcha!

 

[SB Ripping]

SKiLLz son!!!