Is call of duty an art?
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Only if you're willing to say that all movies, books, music and paintings are art can you say that all games are art. If you say that then I disagree with how you define art but that's your opinion, if you think Paris Hilton's "Stars are Blind" or all porn is still art then good luck to you sir and I'd really really like to see you curate an exhibition because it would be AWESOME.Mikeyfell said:
Heres what were all forgetting, while some people say "COD is cookie cutter crap, no art just manufactured"
A bad painting is still art, YET ANOTHER painting or drawing of a bowl of fruit, IS ART therefor yet another annoyingly repetitive fps is also art.
Cod has some very vivid scenery if you actually take the time to look around and in that sense is artistic
Hanz Zimmer Directed the music for multiple call of duty games, HE is surely an artist.
The way the computers translate motion in buttons and sticks into motion and murder in game, while now it may not seem special, is indeed an art, if it were done by other people any other way it would be different.
A bad painting is still art, YET ANOTHER painting or drawing of a bowl of fruit, IS ART therefor yet another annoyingly repetitive fps is also art.
Cod has some very vivid scenery if you actually take the time to look around and in that sense is artistic
Hanz Zimmer Directed the music for multiple call of duty games, HE is surely an artist.
The way the computers translate motion in buttons and sticks into motion and murder in game, while now it may not seem special, is indeed an art, if it were done by other people any other way it would be different.
Artists are required to make them. Concept artists, character designers, level designers, programmers, modelers, shaders, animators...if the result of all of this collaborative work from all these artists isn't a piece of art, then I don't know what is. The quality or worthiness of praise that art is all depends on the critics and viewers.luccadeas said:
Games aren't art.
Yes, I know, I probably just committed verbal suicide, but its my opinion.
But do they have to be? Games are for entertainment, and neither most games nor most movies are "art". They don't need to be art to be fun, and they and movies both generally go into the idea of recreation.
But CoD still sucks. The series went way downhill after MW1, and all the Singleplayer gameplay was replaced by a Micheal Bay movie. The online didn't fare any better. There's to many explosions, guns, and jittery, fast paced action that only sugar hyped 12 year olds can comprehend. War isn't a frantic, Micheal Bay movie, but it doesn't need to be down to the book either. The first Modern Warfare was great. It had over-the-top moments of course, but they weren't taking up the entire game. The realistic story of a sort of Russian Civil War was believable and the characters left an impact on the player. The second game however was a like if you took that sequence from the first where that city gets nuked, and turn it into a game. Its over-the-top gunfights and an unbelievable, unconvincing, and overall unpleasant story, coupled with the fact that the singleplayer was easily completed by holding down "R" and moving forward. It wasn't tame and theres so much shit wrong with it that it just became intolerable. Black Ops had better singleplayer as far as story. It was corny and over-the-top, but the trailers at least made me expect that. The gameplay still suffered the same fate, and the engine was broken to hell.
All I'm saying in that long, raging monster of a paragraph is that although games aren't art, CoD is still the bottom of the barrel if it were.
I'm sorry you had to sit through that paragraph.
Yes, I know, I probably just committed verbal suicide, but its my opinion.
But do they have to be? Games are for entertainment, and neither most games nor most movies are "art". They don't need to be art to be fun, and they and movies both generally go into the idea of recreation.
But CoD still sucks. The series went way downhill after MW1, and all the Singleplayer gameplay was replaced by a Micheal Bay movie. The online didn't fare any better. There's to many explosions, guns, and jittery, fast paced action that only sugar hyped 12 year olds can comprehend. War isn't a frantic, Micheal Bay movie, but it doesn't need to be down to the book either. The first Modern Warfare was great. It had over-the-top moments of course, but they weren't taking up the entire game. The realistic story of a sort of Russian Civil War was believable and the characters left an impact on the player. The second game however was a like if you took that sequence from the first where that city gets nuked, and turn it into a game. Its over-the-top gunfights and an unbelievable, unconvincing, and overall unpleasant story, coupled with the fact that the singleplayer was easily completed by holding down "R" and moving forward. It wasn't tame and theres so much shit wrong with it that it just became intolerable. Black Ops had better singleplayer as far as story. It was corny and over-the-top, but the trailers at least made me expect that. The gameplay still suffered the same fate, and the engine was broken to hell.
All I'm saying in that long, raging monster of a paragraph is that although games aren't art, CoD is still the bottom of the barrel if it were.
I'm sorry you had to sit through that paragraph.
only COD 4, because that did something really cool with the narrative in the single player, but other than that, i think of it as a cash cow, i bought MW1 and WAW, but i don't like any of the others that i borrowed from my friends. So I have played them all through the sp, and only have cod 5 for zombies.
This proves games are art (aside from pulling out titles like Bioshock and Portal)
Much like COD4's nuke scene, it delivers a deep message while allowing the player to connect with what is going on.
Much like COD4's nuke scene, it delivers a deep message while allowing the player to connect with what is going on.
Is Fast and the Furious Art?
Is The Jersey Shore Art?
Is McDonald's food (IRL) art?
Is Internet Explorer Art?
If you can say YES to all of those with a straight face, I might believe you.
Far as I am concern the Call of Duty series is another cash grab in its field of media.
To me the CoD series is much as art as each Killing Charles Manson had performed, Or not at all.
Is The Jersey Shore Art?
Is McDonald's food (IRL) art?
Is Internet Explorer Art?
If you can say YES to all of those with a straight face, I might believe you.
Far as I am concern the Call of Duty series is another cash grab in its field of media.
To me the CoD series is much as art as each Killing Charles Manson had performed, Or not at all.
More like, Call of Duty is fart. Gears of War forever, Call of Duty never!
M I RITE!?
I once had an art teacher who said: Art is whatever the artist says it is.
Damned if she wasn't right.
M I RITE!?
I once had an art teacher who said: Art is whatever the artist says it is.
Damned if she wasn't right.
Does it really have to be all or nothing? Do all games have to be high art, or none are? Can't some just be rubish? If I doodle in my notebook, is it worthy to be put in the Louvre? If a two year old dips their fingers in some paint and makes a mess, it that worth just as much as an origional Piccasso? It could very well be argued that my doodle and the two year old's mess is 'art' but that still doesn't make them any good.
Games are a medium, just like ink and just like paint. Exactly how the creator uses that medium, the skill they have and the attention and love they give their creation decides how good the art is.
Games are a medium, just like ink and just like paint. Exactly how the creator uses that medium, the skill they have and the attention and love they give their creation decides how good the art is.
I believe its a very high form of art. Most art you have to actually understand to be affected by it. Call of Duty has put me into an altered state of consciousness where I was just twiddling my thumbs on a controller having mindless fun. I believe it takes skill to put me into a trance and get me to just have mindless fun. You don't have to understand anything except which end of a gun makes things go bang in call of duty. But thats me.
I can understand that feeling, myself. I feel that a game can be created with the sole purpose of conveying an artistic experience; more often than not however, games are a mix of interactive ideas which includes some form of art -- and in the case COD -- superficial artistic direction. This doesn't make a game a piece of art in exclusivity.Vampire cat said:
I think a better way of explaining what you mean would be to list the reasons why you think COD qualifies as art. Ancient Greek literature has its own merits.Exile714 said: