Is Diablo 3 the worst game ever in terms of price vs. quality?

[Elamdri]

I loved Diablo 2 (never played Diablo the original), I can remember my first experience with D2 the night before my final exam in my senior year at high school. I had studied all I needed to and then someone brought their PC to the hostel and I somehow got the opportunity to play D2 on their machine. I ended up playing the game I think all the way through to morning. I loved it, eventually got it for myself and played it years later in varsity many years after release.

You can imagine to my horror, after paying $63 (R530, South African Rands), when I discovered the incredibly poor server connection and service from Blizzard that causes a game that I would play just to have fun become such a chore! I have now kind of stopped playing Diablo 3 after only reaching level 18 with my Wizard.

The gameplay would be much better if I did not have a average latency of about 1 second at best (me slaying on or two monsters) or 4-9 seconds latency when I am slaying 7 or more monsters.

It is not my internet connection; playing Starcaft 2 at 4x4 does not create any lag like this. It's like the game starts of being behind?

For me this makes the game not worth the money and if I were Korean I would love to give my copy back to get a refund, worst buyer?s remorse in my life.

What do you think?

Please. Come back to me when you bought Superman 64 at full price. When you bought ET for the Atari 2600 at full price. Maybe then I will entertain your whining.

 

[bobmd13]

As i have previously stated in a post.

The Downtime in the game is unacceptable.

I pay for a game that I can play 24/7 365days a year and in my first week of owning it,I had more downtime than uptime.

And thats 2 weeks after launch.

I was asked a question which I did not reply to, says it all.

I play the game when I have the time which in my case is the early hours of the morning.

As a MMO player, I am use to maintenance times but Diablo 3 in Europe has taken the piss.

No apology from Blizzard, no compensation, nothing and you wonder why it has problems and suddenly Vivendi wants to sell Activision/Blizzard.

Vivendi is trying to jump ship before they hit the iceburg and guess what when everyone knows its not a wise move.

 

[blizzaradragon]

Sounds to me like you've just had some bad luck. I've played on all three of their servers, and only had trouble on the US server and even then it was only on day 1. Even when I'm playing with a group of friends we still have little to no lag on any of the servers.

As for worst game in terms of price vs quality, I'd say Diablo III isn't even close and is actually pretty good when it comes to that. Play almost any movie tie-in game, play Kane and Lynch 2, play Modern Warfare 3, I could go on and on. If you think Diablo III is the worst, you've either been EXTREMELY fortunate in games you've played or your jimmies are ridiculously rustled right now.

 

[bobmd13]

Sounds to me like you've just had some bad luck. I've played on all three of their servers, and only had trouble on the US server and even then it was only on day 1. Even when I'm playing with a group of friends we still have little to no lag on any of the servers.

As for worst game in terms of price vs quality, I'd say Diablo III isn't even close and is actually pretty good when it comes to that. Play almost any movie tie-in game, play Kane and Lynch 2, play Modern Warfare 3, I could go on and on. If you think Diablo III is the worst, you've either been EXTREMELY fortunate in games you've played or your jimmies are ridiculously rustled right now.

WITH A 12 YEAR PRODUCTION TIME, this is pretty shoddy.

My complaints are not how it was but how it was in one week.

As I stated my previous post said it all.

3 Days in Diablo Europe. As was stated in that post, this was not on launch but nearly 3 weeks after launch.

I do not want to play on the US servers which were fine.

I do not want to play on the Asian servers which at that point were fine.

I wanted to play on the European Servers which did not work.

Now it gets more interesting, since I paid for a service which is meant to be exactly the same all over the world, why was it a load of rubbish in Europe.

Remember no LOCALIZATION for Diablo 3 yet in Europe it cost $12 dollars more than the US.

Their excuse normally is LOCALIZATION, but in this game there is none.

A service not fit for purpose and overcharged for the same service in the largest gaming community outside of Asia, but hey Blizzard is happy with gold sellers hitting the
EU and America.

More accounts, more revenue.

I think if you actually listen to what Bobby Koetick says, in Berlin you might be surprised.

Here's the link : http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/702673/dice-2010-activision-ceo-bobby-kotick-presentation/

Listen around the 24 th minute and 26th if I remember correctly,before that he explains he has a knowledge of computer games cause he did an Arts Major. But he also points out that he tried to buy Commodore with a group of HEDGE FUND friends (YES HEDGE FUND, the guys who caused the crash)to strip the computer and turn it into a games console.

When you have a chief of finance who has no knowledge of computer systems telling the guys who know, that they need to cut money is very very worrying.

Its like your Insurance company telling your Doctor, No you can't have that life saving surgery cause you forgot to mention you had a bunion on your right foot.

Ohh hold on, thats America, thank you STALIN for the National Health Service in the UK.

What I am saying when a Company has a vested interest,it is never good for the consumer.

 

[kingthrall]

I have a level 45 hardcore character in Inferno Barbarian ok, and a wizard level 20.

Gee, now you're straight-out lying since the minimum level for Inferno is 60. And even if you finished Hell at level 45 (congratulations, you skipped about half the game) you still haven't gotten to the actual difficulty yet.
So you haven't reached level 60 yet, haven't even seen all the rune combinations for one class, yet you can talk. Your credentials are officially down the drain.

I said on a consistent basis. I can put 1 point in every ability too and argue that they "have their uses".
And even so, using more than 6 abilities was hardly prominent in D2. Limiting the active number to 6 is hardly a loss if you design things right.

Monk Gets the Kick, Barbarian gets the Cleave, and Wizard gets the Arcane Orb. All of which act the same.

You mean a short-range knockback cone aoe attack is the same as a ranged projectile aoe with no knockback. Which is also the same as a melee-ranged cone attack with no knockback and no resource cost - rather, resource generation. Okay then, whirlwind is the same as frozen orb, which is reused alongside meteor in the assassin's elemental combo, corpse explosion trap is the same as corpse explosion, zeal has a druid version which is exactly the same, leap is teleport and bone spear is chain lightning. You cannot dismiss what I said without also dismissing what you said yourself. Go ahead and try contradicting yourself though.

You tell me I am full of it but my evidence is stacked against you , what evidence do you have to suggest otherwise?

Your evidence seems to be stacked against you. When the other is digging his own hole, things are pretty easy for me.

oh inferno I meant hell, forgot there are now 4 stages of useless game play. I tend to forget because I dont play it any-more since it became so repetitive.

edit; you really are the biggest blizzard fan boy/girl ever. Enjoy your piece of crap game. Taken 12 years to make and my favourite game Myth II would make even solitaire more advanced in game play than this.

kiyoshi6439# is my login so if you want to be bothered checking but ive played enough to know its boring enough for me and gave my account to my 12 year old cousin.

By the way you completely ignored my argument about the versatility of skills. I said that you do not change skills in battle like in diablo 2, you stick with a few strong skills that are questionably "interchangeable" for usefulness. I highly doubt when fighting a pack of blue monsters you have to change your skills in the heat of battle for every situation, its just not plausible. I never ever said anything about the skills being the same between either game, I said the skills between each class are the same.

Obviously blinded blizzard drone you are enjoy your world of Warcraft inspired diablo game. Ill be playing my myth 2 tournament that's lasted 12 years, 10 years which has been run from external fans servers not by bungie. Diablo 3 will be lucky if it lasts 12 months before the next blockbuster pc release.

 

[Smooth Operator]

No it surely isn't, but it is extremely dishonest because the entire game relies on an MMO lagfest system and people were simply not told that.

So I actually had 3 friends going ape shit for near three days because they planed their D3 party for months, all took off work, got their preorders, stacked up on snacks for several playthroughs... then the game didn't work for two full days, and on day 3 they had nonstop lag issues and their whole party went down several times as a result, they were on the phone to Blizzard their ISP, many angry emails were sent,... epicly hilarious stuff
I might have also trolled them on chat how I'm playing it already, probably not the nicest thing but their blind Blizzard fanboyism needs to be burned down a notch or 20.

 

[bobmd13]

Kingthrall,

Since you live in NZ, it must be nice to play.

Europe which is now the biggest player base since 2008, has been treated like crap by Activision/Blizzard.

The excuse has always been Localization but for the French (60 million pop) and the Germans (81 million)the rest of Europe uses English.

So Sweden,Norway,Denmark,Ireland,UK,Spain,Italy,Portugal,Switzerland,Luxenbourg,Hungary,Serbia,Croatia,Montenegro,Poland and the Czechs ( sorry if I have missed any nation but it is an example) shall I go on have a population base smaller than the USA combined then yes localization is acceptable.

But when your market is greater than the US and plays more, it is not acceptable.

Bar Asia since no-one can compete with China,SK and Japan we expect a service in par with the US.

But for Diablo 3 there is no localization so add in France and Germany and you have a population probably 3 times greater than the US.

Sorry i missed Finland,Vatican City (more to come)

 

[elvor0]

LOL 4 different skill slots dont make it any more impressive.

Everyone who has played diablo 3 knows that even with the switching option on, that you still use one from every skill category anyway. Its just not viable to switch for example from frost ray instead of another skill to fill in crucial slots. If they wanted to make it better they would of let you have a whole hot-key arrangement on every spell/skill so that tactics and resistances would play a much higher role.

Oh and if you didnt notice all the classes have pretty much the same skills. Barbarian has Ground shake instead of Frost Nova for example.

False, and false. I have a monk, barbarian and wizard and I don't think I stuck with "one skill from every category" on either of them. And the monk is max level and geared for inferno.
Tell me one build in Diablo 2 that used more than 6 skills consistently.

Classes have different playstyles. That a few skills are similar means nothing next to the various combinations you can make.

Really, it's painfully obvious that you've barely played D3 and you're talking out of your ass.

I have a level 45 hardcore character in Inferno Barbarian ok, and a wizard level 20. I know what I am talking about and for your information lets take the paladin from diablo 2 for example.


You tell me I am full of it but my evidence is stacked against you , what evidence do you have to suggest otherwise?

Well you're full of crap for a start. You need to be level 50 to even start Hell difficulty, the game will literally lock you out other wise, let alone Inferno, where everything would kill you just by breathing on you. I'd say that blows anything else you say out of the water. If you're going to make shit up, at least check whether it's true or not.

And to the OP: No, don't be stupid, regardless of your opinion on the game, saying it's the worse game ever is just ugh... there are a plethora of games out there that have no redeemable qualities to qualify for the worst game ever.

 

[kingthrall]

Bobmd, i posted and edited the wrong post, so my response was wrong. This is what I was meant to reply with. I also agree with the whole European thing about lag and stuff. We get stutters here too and ive disconnected 3x and had my level 30+ hardcore characters die in area's

this is @ Poiumty

edit; you really are the biggest blizzard fan boy/girl ever. Enjoy your piece of crap game. Taken 12 years to make and my favourite game Myth II would make even solitaire more advanced in game play than this.

kiyoshi6439# is my login so if you want to be bothered checking but ive played enough to know its boring enough for me and gave my account to my 12 year old cousin. Apparently im like level 59, but I was at the time 51 my cousin just told me. Apologies for not caring about what act or level I was. Only true wow drones remember stuff about level and not about immersion/enjoyment.

By the way you completely ignored my argument about the versatility of skills. I said that you do not change skills in battle like in diablo 2, you stick with a few strong skills that are questionably "interchangeable" for usefulness. I highly doubt when fighting a pack of blue monsters you have to change your skills in the heat of battle for every situation, its just not plausible. I never ever said anything about the skills being the same between either game, I said the skills between each class are the same.

Obviously blinded blizzard drone you are enjoy your world of Warcraft inspired diablo game. Ill be playing my myth 2 tournament that's lasted 12 years, 10 years which has been run from external fans servers not by bungie. Diablo 3 will be lucky if it lasts 12 months before the next blockbuster pc release.

 

[bobmd13]

Actually Kingthrall

It is in Europe, if you bother your arse actually reading what has been said.

ON A REGULAR BASIS WE CANNOT PLAY.

Is that clear enough, I dont care that Battletoads is probably the hardest game ever invented.

We have a new game in Europe called the error code lottery.

This game either will not let you into the game or DC you at a critical time like in my case diablo is at 1% due to a party connection.

Since I was not in a party to start with, How the hell could I be in one 30 mins into a boss fight.

I am still on normal after 4 party DISCONNECTS at the end stage of DIABLO.

I have given up with the game and will be asking Activision for a refund on a retail bought game.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I didn't even buy it and I still feel like I am suffering just because the game exists and people are playing it.

 

[bobmd13]

sorry what are you talking about,

Diablo 2 original copy

I had she who must be obeyed check the date of copyright Blizzard 2000 which means it was released in 1999.

So in reality its a 13 year cycle for the next part.

Thats even worse than Duke Nukem.

Thats the original diablo 2 the expansion was copyrighted in 2001

Need I say more.

Even with the expansion its a 11 year cycle.

11 years and they put out an unfinished game,with a price which is $12 dollars more than the US version with no localization.

Its hard to defend Activision/Blizzard when people have the original games. Its even harder to defend them when SC2 is still £35, after 2 years post release or even at the cheap price of £24.

Activision are keeping the price high artifically, espically since PC gaming is dead.

I find it strange that since PC gaming is dead, last year PC gaming accounted for 48% of the $12 billion dollars made from games worldwide. Thats sales of software only btw.

It is the first year that D2D sales have been included,and the the PC which has been dying by the retail sales index suddenly destroyed all the other formats.

Think about that the Nintendo DS, WII,Xbox 360,PS3 and the PSP vita sold 4% more between them than the PC.

Thats 5 consoles I have named,I have probably missed a few.

 

[kingthrall]

Actually Kingthrall

It is in Europe, if you bother your arse actually reading what has been said.

ON A REGULAR BASIS WE CANNOT PLAY.

Is that clear enough, I dont care that Battletoads is probably the hardest game ever invented.

We have a new game in Europe called the error code lottery.

This game either will not let you into the game or DC you at a critical time like in my case diablo is at 1% due to a party connection.

Since I was not in a party to start with, How the hell could I be in one 30 mins into a boss fight.

I am still on normal after 4 party DISCONNECTS at the end stage of DIABLO.

I have given up with the game and will be asking Activision for a refund on a retail bought game.

Bobmd, i posted and edited the wrong post, so my response was wrong. This is what I was meant to reply with. I also agree with the whole European thing about lag and stuff. We get stutters here too and ive disconnected 3x and had my level 30+ hardcore characters die in area's

this is @ Poiumty

edit; you really are the biggest blizzard fan boy/girl ever. Enjoy your piece of crap game. Taken 12 years to make and my favourite game Myth II would make even solitaire more advanced in game play than this.

kiyoshi6439# is my login so if you want to be bothered checking but ive played enough to know its boring enough for me and gave my account to my 12 year old cousin. Apparently im like level 59, but I was at the time 51 my cousin just told me. Apologies for not caring about what act or level I was. Only true wow drones remember stuff about level and not about immersion/enjoyment.

By the way you completely ignored my argument about the versatility of skills. I said that you do not change skills in battle like in diablo 2, you stick with a few strong skills that are questionably "interchangeable" for usefulness. I highly doubt when fighting a pack of blue monsters you have to change your skills in the heat of battle for every situation, its just not plausible. I never ever said anything about the skills being the same between either game, I said the skills between each class are the same.

Obviously blinded blizzard drone you are enjoy your world of Warcraft inspired diablo game. Ill be playing my myth 2 tournament that's lasted 12 years, 10 years which has been run from external fans servers not by bungie. Diablo 3 will be lucky if it lasts 12 months before the next blockbuster pc release.

 

[Dr Jones]

But were those games expected to be good games? I mean Diablo 3 was supposed to be one of the best games of the year, but rather it sucks big time!

In that case it would be a matter of quality v expectations, not price v quality.

 

[bobmd13]

To Kingthrall

Mistakes happen,

and it takes a big man or women to say that.

I apologize to you as well for being so abrupt and I hope you accept my apology.

bob

 

[bobmd13]

You actually believe the crap that Blizzard have told you.

Before World of Warcraft which was released in 2004 btw Blizzard had 2 titles.

Diablo and Diablo 2 expansion in 2001.

Starcraft 1997 and expansion 2001.

Do you believe that a games company would risk it all, on a MMO against the might of Evercrack at that time.

No bloody way, Diablo3 and Starcraft 2 were alreadfy in development.

Why do you think Activision was so hungry to buy Blizzard.

Yes WoW makes money but Starcraft in Asia is huge money on retail sales alone.

Its a nice way to balance the books.

Please remember that Vivendi who own Activision, also own Warner Brothers now and thought that the Hobbit would not make its money back, even though Lord of the Rings which cost $250million for all 3 films made 10 times that.