Nope, diablo 3 is a great game gameplay wise, considering the prices of other sequals that have pretty much duplicated the game, it's fine to me.
Is Diablo 3 the worst game ever in terms of price vs. quality?
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Well.. Im not saying it is or isnt. What I will say is thanks to D3, the ratio of cost vs quality will get consistently just a little bit worse for the entire industry . Thats the price we all must pay for people buying a game that you absolutely knew would do this.
For you, sure. Since you can't really play the game, it was pretty much a complete waste of money. FOR YOU. While the DRM is fucking monkeynuts crazy stupid, it doesn't make the game objectively worse just because a small sect of people not living in major consumer countries cannot play it as a result.
Note: I'm not supporting DRM here, but citing it as an offense of the game itself isn't exactly fair when I'm almost certain that the always-online was a publishing decision, not a development one.
And the dudes at ActiBlizzard are bathing in all of our money.
Note: I'm not supporting DRM here, but citing it as an offense of the game itself isn't exactly fair when I'm almost certain that the always-online was a publishing decision, not a development one.
And the dudes at ActiBlizzard are bathing in all of our money.
A quick disclaimer: I have not played Diablo 3 or Torchlight 2, only seen gameplay, courtesy of the Yogscast and Totalbiscuit. I write this to give what I say context.
From what I've seen of D3, it's not a bad game, far from it, but it is riddled with problems, the majority of which being server-related. It is also in the unfortunate position of being compared to Torchlight 2 (T2 from here onwards), which looks like the superior game.
The meat of the difference is the obvious online-only of D3, which essentially makes how often you can play a crap-shoot. T2 does not have this problem, and so is more functional.
The other disappointment (according to what I've heard/read) is that the story of D3 is underwhelming. Between the clichés throughout the story and the ending, which I confess I saw on Youtube, it does not compare to the superior Diablo 2. One could argue that T2 does not even have a story (as far as I know; could be wrong) but I would counter with the fact that it is not trying to sell on its story, but with its combat. Which leads me to my next point, the combat.
Now, this is where both games excel, with tight gameplay, and satisfying kills. Where I fell D3 falls short is the pace of combat. It is visibly slower than T2, which makes it feel plodding at times. T2 is a lot more visually impressive, as well, with striking colours and clear distinction between what's what. D3's gloomy aesthetic might appeal to some, but in my opinion, it's a turn-off. This is a subjective opinion, mind you.
Finally, the large variation in price. D3 is a triple-A, $60 release which supposedly has a lot of content (if one is up for upping the difficulty for better loot). T2, on the other hand, is a pseudo-indie release, which allegedly could have a similar amount of content, and is a $20 release. Now even assuming that D3 has more content, one cannot argue that T2 is a better deal, especially considering the technical issues plaguing D3's servers. Of course, T2 is still in beta, so my humble opinion may change when it's released.
in conclusion, D3 is probably not worth the $60 and having to pray to Diablo that the servers are working properly, making T2 the better deal.
From what I've seen of D3, it's not a bad game, far from it, but it is riddled with problems, the majority of which being server-related. It is also in the unfortunate position of being compared to Torchlight 2 (T2 from here onwards), which looks like the superior game.
The meat of the difference is the obvious online-only of D3, which essentially makes how often you can play a crap-shoot. T2 does not have this problem, and so is more functional.
The other disappointment (according to what I've heard/read) is that the story of D3 is underwhelming. Between the clichés throughout the story and the ending, which I confess I saw on Youtube, it does not compare to the superior Diablo 2. One could argue that T2 does not even have a story (as far as I know; could be wrong) but I would counter with the fact that it is not trying to sell on its story, but with its combat. Which leads me to my next point, the combat.
Now, this is where both games excel, with tight gameplay, and satisfying kills. Where I fell D3 falls short is the pace of combat. It is visibly slower than T2, which makes it feel plodding at times. T2 is a lot more visually impressive, as well, with striking colours and clear distinction between what's what. D3's gloomy aesthetic might appeal to some, but in my opinion, it's a turn-off. This is a subjective opinion, mind you.
Finally, the large variation in price. D3 is a triple-A, $60 release which supposedly has a lot of content (if one is up for upping the difficulty for better loot). T2, on the other hand, is a pseudo-indie release, which allegedly could have a similar amount of content, and is a $20 release. Now even assuming that D3 has more content, one cannot argue that T2 is a better deal, especially considering the technical issues plaguing D3's servers. Of course, T2 is still in beta, so my humble opinion may change when it's released.
in conclusion, D3 is probably not worth the $60 and having to pray to Diablo that the servers are working properly, making T2 the better deal.
What? I use three defensives on my Monk, and in fact that's the most common layout in Inferno.kingthrall said:
I'm enjoying it and have about 53 hours logged on my Witchdoctor, as well as another 20 or so on my Demon Hunter. So that makes it less than $1 / hour of entertainment so I am very certainly getting my moneys worth.
I'll answer my own question because the feature is so obscure that others might have use for it.Bostur said:
Go into gameplay options and the check the option "Elective Mode".
Drag a skill to a different slot, that will clear the original slot. Now a skill of the same category can be chosen for the original slot, by adding it from the skill window.
Agreed 100% here. Level 60 witchdoctor going through inferno difficulty and I use:poiumty said:
1 primary
0 secondary
2 defensive
0 terror
1 decay
2 voodoo
But I guess "everyone knows that isn't viable" so I wonder how I am playing through inferno difficulty.
I also like how you consider any PBAOE to be an exact duplicate of another (ground shake vs frost nova) ignoring the fact that they have different resources, damages, radius and rune slotting for fairly different effects.
It must be the season where it's cool to hate on D3.
Yeah I just figured it out. The first times I tried out the 'elective mode' option, all I could make it do was switch the categories to different keys. This will actually make my witch doctor interesting and playable, can't believe Blizzard made that feature so obscure to use.poiumty said:
Or when selecting the skill use the blue arrows at either side of the skills to scroll the the subsets until you get to the skill you want for that button.Bostur said:
Yep, and it's been a long season. I know of a few posters here who have been bashing the game since before beta, then went on to buy it anyway (I suggested to at least one that they should perhaps save their money, considering they had already decided they hated it; this was during the open beta). And now with returns being offered, the same people continue to play, and continue to moan. Worst game ever? That's insane. It's the best game I've played so far this year.Indecipherable said:
Not for me. I've heard a lot of crap about it, but I've had little to no problems so far.
It was £45, which is about £5 more than what a newly released game usually costs, if not the average cost of a new game.
The gameplay is fantastic, and I'm not sure if it's just you or that fact that I have a very powerful computer, but I've little to no lag, and noticed no difference depending on how many monsters are on the screen.
I've had no errors besides one yesterday during the update, but that was a patch. I've waited for games to patch before playing them before, and I'll do it with Diablo III.
It was £45, which is about £5 more than what a newly released game usually costs, if not the average cost of a new game.
The gameplay is fantastic, and I'm not sure if it's just you or that fact that I have a very powerful computer, but I've little to no lag, and noticed no difference depending on how many monsters are on the screen.
I've had no errors besides one yesterday during the update, but that was a patch. I've waited for games to patch before playing them before, and I'll do it with Diablo III.