Is Formula 1 racing a redneck sport in Europe?

[No_Remainders]

No, what the hell gave you that idea?

If there's any sport in Europe that's fandom consists primarily of imbeciles, it's Soccer.

I would've said "scumbags" rather than "imbeciles" and "football" as opposed to "soccer", but you basically called it right.

OT: In intelligence terms of supporters, it basically goes like this:

Every single sport that is liked in Europe > Football.

 

[unicron44]

I know that in the Die Prinzen song "Mein Fahrrad" he says something about rednecks drive Fords, or something of that nature. Well that's a German band, but a lot of people in Germany use public transportation from what I hear.

 

[DigitalSushi]

Lets watch left turns all day and hope for a crash. YEE-HAW!

Could you add more the discussion next time?

 

[Captain Pirate]

Does Europe have rednecks, or are they called something else? I don't mean people who are called imbeciles and what-not. Perhaps some term that isn't used in the States?

Not really. I mean, there are chavs, but they are just pricks mostly.
I guess Football is often enjoyed by, as you referenced, imbeciles. I mean I enjoyed watching a game in a crowd of people (I love crowd atmoshphere in general, though.), but most people I know who follow it religiously are idiots. No offense to any real hardcore footy Escapists, but I doubt there are many on here.

 

[Wadders]

No, what the hell gave you that idea?

If there's any sport in Europe that's fandom consists primarily of imbeciles, it's Soccer.

*Football.

And most football fans are not hooligans, at all.

No, what the hell gave you that idea?

If there's any sport in Europe that's fandom consists primarily of imbeciles, it's Soccer.

I would've said "scumbags" rather than "imbeciles" and "football" as opposed to "soccer", but you basically called it right.

OT: In intelligence terms of supporters, it basically goes like this:

Every single sport that is liked in Europe > Football.

So much hate for football and its fans

Following a sport does not instantly turn you into an idiot.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Nascar (technically NASCAR) actually has the most fans of any sport in the USA. All people I know do not "look down" on fans of it because it is a "redneck" sport. Some of the smartest people in the world design those cars, so I (and everyone I know) consider it an "intelligent" pastime. I'm "upper-middle class" by the way.

Having a team of incredibly intelligent people pouring every ounce of their intellect and creativity into such a project does little to detract from the following facts:

1) Most of the people who openly profess to like NASCAR will appear to be of less than stellar intelligence.
2)Most of the people who regularly win the races speak as though they are from a rural area (and the presumption of being a redneck follows naturally unless overwhelming evidence proves otherwise of course)
3) Those who watch the sport often assert that they only do so to watch the crashes
4) The races themselves consist of a series of cars that look fairly identical traveling very fast around a track that consists entirely of left turns. While it may be extraordinarily difficult in actuality, it appears both easy and, for most of the world, boring.

finally. someone i can agree with. i was facepalming down the page till i found this. literally not a single person i know within my area nor the area that my family is from around the country watches nascar, hell we will watch pbs the bernstein bears before we watch nascar. its quite possibly the most boring thing to watch honestly

now i am talking about nascar specifically, not F1 or any other driving scenario's specifically, nor am i degrading anyone who works on or fancies driving/watching car races.

 

[GrinningManiac]

I don't claim to know much about the sport

If I'm actually honest, I found out most of what I know about NASCAR in the Pixar film "Cars"

I totally can't relate to that.

[small]I totally can.[/small]

But, they did pit there and it was quite important.

Touché

I doubt it's an accurate representation of the sport (for example, it looks fun. Zing!)

 

[C95J]

definitely not, I don't see NASCAR as a redneck sport and definitely not F1, it is brilliant

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

I dont care for NASCAR because its the same fucking thing for several hours, perfect described in a Jeff Dunham bit. I dont think of it as a Redneck sport though.

*Edit*

Wasn't the point of that fucking South Park episode that the sport isn't a redneck sport? and that people who think it is are actually the stupid one? Or am I did I miss the point?

There was a South Park about it? Damn, I need to start watching that show again...

yup, its one of the newer ones, it describes the stereotype and the whole thought of nascar pretty well if i must say.

 

[Oh That Dude]

Nope, it's actually pretty snooty.

 

[Kinguendo]

Does Europe have rednecks, or are they called something else? I don't mean people who are called imbeciles and what-not. Perhaps some term that isn't used in the States?

What? How would we know? I live in Britain, I dont know what the French call things. Europe is a continent, not a country.

 

[theSovietConnection]

SNIP

SNIP

NASCAR is actually very geared toward pit strategy. Which is why it can seem so boring. The pit cheifs and engineers are all monitering the car, trying to determine tire wear, fuel consumption, and the like dependent on the conditions of the track, and also monitoring to see what they can change to improve the car for next time while staying in NASCAR's guidelines for what can and can't be done. I find NASCAR every bit as engineering oriented as F1, but a bit more challenging because you are stuck to the limitations of a production car design.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

At least NASCAR lets drivers pass each other. (I watch both series religiously.)

Is that a subtle poke at the Schumacher-Alonso incident at Monaco this year or just an outright comment on Monaco and Singapore every year?

Have you seen the rules for Indy Racing League?, I assume your a fan of F1?

Well in Indy they have to give up the racing line into a corner if they are ahead, the inside line and by proxy the apex of the corner which is the fastest way through is "give way to the guy behind you", I shit you not, thats why Indy has more overtaking than F1.

As for NASCAR, not sure!

I sure am a fan of F1.

And that Indy Racing rule (is that the Indy Car league?) seems superficial at best and absolutely mindblowingly unfair at worst.

 

[Therumancer]

Does Europe have rednecks, or are they called something else? I don't mean people who are called imbeciles and what-not. Perhaps some term that isn't used in the States?

well in England it depends on where your closer to scottland or dover on who you insult

Is the term redneck used? My ignorance led me to believe it was an American term not used by others.

It's not. It's intended to differentiate the rural, and presumably uneducated, ignorant, and violent people of the south from similar groups of people in other geographic regions of the US when your talking about them in a somewhat derogatory or belittling fashion. Depending on where you are the local equivilent can include Hillbillies, Mountain Men, and Swamp Yankees, the former being the most common term along with Redneck.

Where the other terms mostly come from the geographic traits of the regions where those people tend to live (because they were undesirable to people with more money, or where most lower class work is performed) the term "redneck" comes from someone doing a lot of work outside in the hot sun, where they presumably wear a hat to help cover their head but the back of their neck tends to constantly get burned and develop a callous that can stick out from the rest of their body. "Redneck" sticks out in paticular because the south has a long history of social seperation greater than most places in the US, there being an upper class of landowners and "gentleman farmers" who are usually quite civilized and well educated, and a lower class of farmers who do most of the actual work... with very little in between. While things have changed a bit (both with a developing middle class there, and some of that structure appearing to a greater degree through the rest of the US causing people to talk about the decline of The Middle Class) it's one of those slang terms that has become rather popular for a number of reasons. Unlike some other terms where the connotation is almost always taken offensively (like Hillbilly) "Redneck" can be a sign of pride for some people
as a sign that they work for a living so to speak. As odd as it can sound to some people a certain kind of pride comes from that kind of lifestyle, and you actually see some bigoted attitudes towards people who don't live that way. Most people don't run into it much but in reverse a lot of "Rednecks" have a sort of stereotype about over-educated, bi-sexual, fur-wearing people that gets mocked just as badly as many people make fun of Rednecks, even if it doesn't translate well outside of that peer group.

At any rate, I'm rambling a bit. The point is that "Redneck" is a US specific term for a group of people/subculture. Sort of like how the term "Chav" doesn't see much use in the US even if we have similar groups of people.

 

[Verlander]

Britain doesn't really have rednecks, it has chavs, but that's become an umbrella term to refer to most working class/lower middle class people who have no "alternative" definition. I'd say that while dog track racing is probably THE working class sport, the "redneck" equivalent is horse racing and football (soccer). Our "rednecks" range financially, although a lot of the ones with money are "new money" who have earned through trade/sports/gambling.

F1 is the opposite, it is an elite sport, and a good one. Not just Europe though, Asia and South America love that shit. When it comes to sport (amongst other things), the USA is INCREDIBLY closed and self obsessed. I think originally, Americans (and to a lesser extent Canadians) went out of their way to differentiate themselves from the rest of the world, to establish a unique identity, and now unfortunately you are segregated from the rest of the world. This can be related to so many things in the world, it's quite sad actually.

 

[Souplex]

The closest thing in Europe to rednecks are people who live in slightly smaller castles than the average European.

 

[Swifteye]

So in europe racing around in a circle is not something associated with something that can be qualified as rednecks. Some here are even saying that there is no equalivant(which is a lie you totally know there is a name for someone who is lower class lower educated slightly backwoods type people exist everywhich place) well when I saw Cars I kinda assumed that was the case.
Anyways i've always considered nascar to be a pretty uninteresting sport. And the only people I have ever seen like it were rednecks. It is really popular here in south carolina I wonder why that is. Still though a south park episode tried to defend you guys by showing you've evovled from that stereotype but I don't really buy it. I guess if you are really into cars or really into engineering cars or really into seeing cars crash than it's not going to come off as something captivating and worth time watching. But if you ask me. All sports are boring as sin to watch.

 

[DustyDrB]

Nascar (technically NASCAR) actually has the most fans of any sport in the USA. All people I know do not "look down" on fans of it because it is a "redneck" sport. Some of the smartest people in the world design those cars, so I (and everyone I know) consider it an "intelligent" pastime. I'm "upper-middle class" by the way.

Most NASCAR fans I know will either pridefully or begrudgingly admit that it has a pretty redneck fanbase.

 

[0_Insomnis_0]

Are you calling His Schumacher-ness a redneck? When i come to power, that'll be punishable by death...