Is it ever okay to camp?
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Camping is a legit strategy. I just get annoyed when I face and/or are playing with an entire team of campers. And that happens often. I do agree that some games make it so that camping is ALWAYS the best option, and those kind of games piss me off. As long as there is a way to kill the camper once you know his location that doesn't involve starting a sniper-war, I don't mind.
Sniping from one spot is okay. Sniping from one spot with two claymores in the doors, and someone checking each possible entry point is not okay.
I regularly tell my mate off for yelling "campers!" in an objective-based mode within MW2, as it is perfectly legit to stay around the general area of the objective you're defending. However staying in the same spot time and time and TIME again in an FPS within other game modes like TDM is cheap, lazy and induces frustration in others just to get a cheap kill.hittite said:
End of the day, the location of a camper can be relayed to other teammates and somebody is bound to expose them sooner or later so it's a "tactic" with a limited set of pros in my book
Camp all you want just know that people will now make it their mission to see that you do not get another kill from that location.
It's a legit tactic, looked down upon by people who don't know how easy it is to counter camping (if it isn't spawn camping and it's a balanced game.)
Corner camping in L4D is all fine and dandy until the competitive players come into your random public game and shun you for not running all over the room fighting the horde and exposing yourself to the special infected on the other team. 8D
Corner camping in L4D is all fine and dandy until the competitive players come into your random public game and shun you for not running all over the room fighting the horde and exposing yourself to the special infected on the other team. 8D
Legitimately staying in an area because you're defending something and/or it's a choke point to gain lots of kills: yes.
Sitting in a random room and hoping that the same guy will come back for you over and over: go rot in hell.
Sitting in a random room and hoping that the same guy will come back for you over and over: go rot in hell.
I camp everynow and then espescially when a forward approach is just another way to a quick death. But for the most part I try all the stragies. Now I don't think camping is good when everyone is doing it. Then there's less explosions. I've entered a couple sessions in battlefront where people were just hiding around with sniple rifles. I left cause that was boring.
That's why real campers play hardcore, where there's no killcam! Bwahahahah!spectrenihlus said:
Oh, I forgot to OT - So: It's alright to camp,when sniping (not baseraping though, shame on you!) - as others have stated - but the thing where you practically lock yourself in a room and then wait for people to come on in, is not all right.
Then I just use a gun with FMJ and shoot you where you least expect.Boneasse said:That's why real campers play hardcore, where there's no killcam! Bwahahahah!spectrenihlus said:
Those that complain about camping are those who don't want to learn how to keep it from happening, it is legit for there are ways to counter it.
Camping got you down? Sniping? Random nades? Learn to counter it, learn the spots and avoid them if you wish, for that is also a solution to the problem you're facing. Mostly what happens is some one will die, and that person who got killed will get uptight, and demand revenge, rush blindly into the area in a fit of rage and... Die again.
There was this one server where camping was against the rules in cod4, I had my gear set up for flanking. I hid behind some cover, and out from across road comes an enemy who happened to be a clan member of that server. Psh, idiot got shot...
Now if you're like me, you just got a kill, so chances are you're gonna reload so you have a full clip for your next encounter. Would be silly of me to move up while I'm reloading right? So I hid and watched my flanks while the animation took place, then turned around and behold, out comes that same guy... Spawning was instant on this server so I hadn't a chance to move before he showed up again. (No I didn't spawn camp the guy either...)
K? Dead again, next thing I know, "VOTE BAN THIS GUY HE'S CAMPING!"
Got in a heated argument over tactics and the consequences of rushing out in the middle of a road and all that with him and a mod, got banned from the server...
Okay, decided to look up their clan page, find out who's in charge, had a lil talk with some of the clan leaders. The Mod lost his privileges and the other guy got a boot from the clan, and I was allowed to join the server again, but I never went back.
People are just too quick to blame others for their own faults. That is NOT how you get better at playing the game, and that's exactly why so many people are horrible at playing...
Camping got you down? Sniping? Random nades? Learn to counter it, learn the spots and avoid them if you wish, for that is also a solution to the problem you're facing. Mostly what happens is some one will die, and that person who got killed will get uptight, and demand revenge, rush blindly into the area in a fit of rage and... Die again.
There was this one server where camping was against the rules in cod4, I had my gear set up for flanking. I hid behind some cover, and out from across road comes an enemy who happened to be a clan member of that server. Psh, idiot got shot...
Now if you're like me, you just got a kill, so chances are you're gonna reload so you have a full clip for your next encounter. Would be silly of me to move up while I'm reloading right? So I hid and watched my flanks while the animation took place, then turned around and behold, out comes that same guy... Spawning was instant on this server so I hadn't a chance to move before he showed up again. (No I didn't spawn camp the guy either...)
K? Dead again, next thing I know, "VOTE BAN THIS GUY HE'S CAMPING!"
Got in a heated argument over tactics and the consequences of rushing out in the middle of a road and all that with him and a mod, got banned from the server...
Okay, decided to look up their clan page, find out who's in charge, had a lil talk with some of the clan leaders. The Mod lost his privileges and the other guy got a boot from the clan, and I was allowed to join the server again, but I never went back.
People are just too quick to blame others for their own faults. That is NOT how you get better at playing the game, and that's exactly why so many people are horrible at playing...
How exactly is that cheap and annoying..? If some one on the other team was doing that, I'd call that FREE KILLS! Even if you do get killed by it, that should be the only time that he gets a kill off of you.ELxSQUISHY said:
"Hey all my enemies seem to run through this ONE area. I think I'll wait here and kill them to so they can't keep killing me." - Camper on his enemies fail
Just because it's a game doesn't mean you HAVE to run around all the time. Especially in a game called "Modern Warfare." Its modern to use cover, and not run out into a death zone rather than wait for the enemy to come to you. What is this? Modern World War One Warfare? I think not. /|\ I shall forever camp as long as you keep trying that one path with all your friends.
Besides, its not even that hard to kill a camper. *Thats what grenades are for*. I know, its fun to use them as pocket artillery, but if you actually use them correctly, then they're pretty handy for blowing shit up that's around a corner. Wait for the boom, then charge guns blazing. You'll get him.
Just because it's a game doesn't mean you HAVE to run around all the time. Especially in a game called "Modern Warfare." Its modern to use cover, and not run out into a death zone rather than wait for the enemy to come to you. What is this? Modern World War One Warfare? I think not. /|\ I shall forever camp as long as you keep trying that one path with all your friends.
Besides, its not even that hard to kill a camper. *Thats what grenades are for*. I know, its fun to use them as pocket artillery, but if you actually use them correctly, then they're pretty handy for blowing shit up that's around a corner. Wait for the boom, then charge guns blazing. You'll get him.
the list of times when its NOT ok to camp is shorter.
Basically, don't camp spawn points. That's pretty much it, and even then, if you're in a team game, it's fair play to camp the other team's spawnpoint.
If the game you're playing doesn't allow you to work around camping (Lots of alternatate routes into a camping spot/destructable environments etc), then maybe play a different game that does.
Camping's only an illegitimate strategy when there is mechanical reasons why it's infeasible to deal with them.. most games do not have that problem - in most shooters, every strategy is able to be thwarted somehow.
Basically, don't camp spawn points. That's pretty much it, and even then, if you're in a team game, it's fair play to camp the other team's spawnpoint.
If the game you're playing doesn't allow you to work around camping (Lots of alternatate routes into a camping spot/destructable environments etc), then maybe play a different game that does.
Camping's only an illegitimate strategy when there is mechanical reasons why it's infeasible to deal with them.. most games do not have that problem - in most shooters, every strategy is able to be thwarted somehow.
Camping is a legimate strategy if you are camping in a way that is helpful to your team winning the match. The only thing I hate about camping is when a camper is just camping for kills in an objective mode and not helping the team win, which I saw A LOT in the MAG beta. I actually don't care if the other team has those kind of campers, I don't want them on my team because they are only helping us lose. Nothing wrong with defending an objective point. Yes, snipers are supposed to camp, but many people don't know how to properly snipe in objective modes.
Also, the game should have built in ways of countering campers like using grenades, smokes, flashbangs, etc. Metal Gear Online has this great support item (a throwable object like a nade) called an enemy locator (that you can get as your support item instead of a nade, smoke, etc.) that shows all enemies within about a 10 ft radius. The enemy locator isn't broken because of the fact that you can equip a skill that makes you invisible to an enemy locator.
Also, the game should have built in ways of countering campers like using grenades, smokes, flashbangs, etc. Metal Gear Online has this great support item (a throwable object like a nade) called an enemy locator (that you can get as your support item instead of a nade, smoke, etc.) that shows all enemies within about a 10 ft radius. The enemy locator isn't broken because of the fact that you can equip a skill that makes you invisible to an enemy locator.
Don't spawn camp, that's it. End of story.
Games like Battlefield Bad Company 2 have made it impossible for people who sit in one single spot the entire game to win so camping isn't really all that great a strategy, but don't spawn camp that is the worst gooddamn thing you can do, it's absolutely beyond contempt.
Games like Battlefield Bad Company 2 have made it impossible for people who sit in one single spot the entire game to win so camping isn't really all that great a strategy, but don't spawn camp that is the worst gooddamn thing you can do, it's absolutely beyond contempt.
Camping is always "okay". Why? Because most of those campers had no role in coding the game, they're just being resourceful.
It's up to the developer to acknowledge that people play differently and balance their game accordingly.
And besides, if the game has grenades, just follow team mates around and get a free kills whenever they get shot by a camper.
It's up to the developer to acknowledge that people play differently and balance their game accordingly.
And besides, if the game has grenades, just follow team mates around and get a free kills whenever they get shot by a camper.