Is it ever okay to camp?

[nuba km]

"You're not moving or performing any sort of evasive maneouvres and that means you keep killing me!" Uh... what? Sorry, if some guy keeps picking you off because you keep coming round the same route, and despite the fact he's not moving you can't put a bullet in him, that's not him being good, that's you being awful.

I normally get killed by campers because:
1. they generally use weapons that kill you in less then 1sec
2. it has been 2min since they killed me so I don't think they will be in the same location because I trust people not to camp
3. they normally only have one path to them that isn't littered with traps and give away you are coming to them so the other path just has their cross eye aimed at it
4. they camp in places where it is very hard to throw a grenade in at the right angle
5. they normally hide where you most likely walk past.
6. games that normally have campers *cough* MW2 *cough* will have multiple campers and it's hard to go anywhere where there isn't a camper.
also I have made a list of what is and isn't camping which I am going to edit in a second.

 

[Retardinator]

Camping's a legitimate strategy. It's just games like Call of Duty unbalance it and make it harder to kill them.

For example: Sniper in slot one, shotgun in slot two.

There's unbalanced ways to camp and unbalanced ways to counter campers. MW2 compared to MW1 is broken enough to actually be more balanced when countering fags.

 

[Bloodstain]

In real life, you'd die if you didn't camp.
That's why I think it's okay in games as well. I'm a bit of a roleplayer.

Real life isn't relevant, realism has always been attempted to be attached to this genre but I don't think it should be and if it were it would have to go all out, no game to date have I ever seen with realistic gun ballistics, there isn't a part in Call of Duty were you're adjusting the zero range of your sights and noting the ballistic curve because that would break gameplay and bore non-fanatics although it is something I would like to see if done well. In real life you don't get to respawn, in real life defibrillators don't recover bullet wounds. I understand the immersion which you could get from a realistic shooter but one like that just doesn't exist.

Please, next time, use paragraphs.
Besides, how about letting me play like I want? You have an opinion. That is fine.
I like roleplaying in FPS games, you don't. Not much to discuss here.

 

[Decagonapus]

It is NEVER the opposing players fault for camping.

If it's possible in game -- it's legitimate.
If the level caters to campers -- Pick a different level.
If the game is imbalanced in favor of campers -- Play a better FPS.
If the entire other team is camping -- Play a game mode that requires movement.

(The best teams are ones that have a variety of player styles that complement each other.)

Spawn camping IS a bad thing, but it's the games and levels that need to be designed to avoid this. (Random spawning, no campable areas near spawn points, short invincibility upon re-spawning, etc)


If your own team members aren't playing as a team for ANY reason (including camping) then you have every right to tell them to change.

 

[hawkeye52]

i dont see the problem with it especially in any game where you can cook nades or throw disabling devices such as flashbangs and the like since it only takes one or the other to eliminate someone who is camping.

because unless the map made is really bad and filled with corridors with only one small window at the end and no where else to go but to that one window to get anywhere then its fine since you can easily kill them with one of aformentioned things earlier.

for snipers ofc it is because unless you expect the sniper to run forward as a frontline troop he cant do anything else. (btw i have done this before with the barret 50. and a scroll wheel bind)

 

[chainer1216]

camping is totally fine, and the only people to ***** about "noobtubeing" are campers who don't like the fact that they're strategy has a flaw. the same goes for the people who ***** about dynamite in RDR.

 

[Aratus]

Depends on the game/objective. The FPS I play is TF2 and if you are on offense then mobility is how you win. If you are on defense then you better make damn sure you are camping that objective.

 

[EatPieYes]

It is NEVER the opposing players fault for camping.

If it's possible in game -- it's legitimate.
If the level caters to campers -- Pick a different level.
If the game is imbalanced in favor of campers -- Play a better FPS.
If the entire other team is camping -- Play a game mode that requires movement.

(The best teams are ones that have a variety of player styles that complement each other.)

Spawn camping IS a bad thing, but it's the games and levels that need to be designed to avoid this. (Random spawning, no campable areas near spawn points, short invincibility upon re-spawning, etc)


If your own team members aren't playing as a team for ANY reason (including camping) then you have every right to tell them to change.

Good answer!

 

[Assassin Xaero]

For sniping, sometimes. Anyone who has said "camping is a legitimate strategy" is a camper. Another little fun fact, the majority of people who hate martyrdom are also campers because they don't understand the concept of killing someone then MOVING (well, at least the majority of the ones I've run into).

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not a good strategy. **snip** Also, what does sacrificing yourself for your beliefs have to do with killing and moving?

Umm... I fail to see how hiding around a corner and waiting for someone to appear to blast them with an M60 is a "strategy" . And to that last remark, are you trolling or have you not played a Call of Duty game in the past 3-4 years?

To answer your first question:
Camping is a viable strategy. A strategy is a plan to achieve an objective. Per en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy : "Strategy refers to a plan of action designed to achieve a particular goal." Camping is a way to achieve a higher Kill/Death ratio. While not socially acceptable, it is still a worthwhile strategy for some players.

To answer your second question:
And no I'm not trolling. I'm seriously confused as to what martyrdom, the sacrificing of one's self for a particular belief has to do with a modern FPS.

Really? Martyrdom is a perk in all of the Call of Duty games since CoD4 where when you die you drop a live grenade. It is easy to dodge, especially in non-hardcore (game mode) servers because you have a grenade indicator that even tells you a grenade is there. Most campers hate it because when they are hiding in that corner, you come around, they kill you, you drop the grenade, they don't move, they die. A lot of people argue that you can't get away from it when I've stabbed people that had it and got away before it went off... And you can always pick the nade up and throw it if you don't want to move.

 

[Lazy Kitty]

It's aways okay to camp, just do whatever helps to kill your enemy while staying alive yourself.

 

[WeedyPirate]

Camping is fine, it's just another strategy. I don't do it personally cause it bores the crap out of me, but it doesn't bother me when others do it.

 

[TimeLord]

In Real Life? Yes.
In Games? No.
In MW2, Whenever I See A Camper, I Riot Shield Them To Death XD

Excellent strategy! I always find it fun to slowly move towards someone while holding the riot shield and laugh as they panic fire into the shield and hope they don't have Semtex!

I must ask, what is it that the Doctor is saying with that weird expression on your avatar? xD

He is saying; "Nah!"

It's from 'Army of Ghosts' when he says:

"So you find the breach, probe it, sphere comes through. 600ft above London. Bam!
It leaves a hole in the fabric of reality.
And that hole; you think, should we leave it alone, should we back off, should we play it safe?
Nah! You think; let's make it bigger!"

 

[Regular Guy]

I think it's alright, in some instances.

It still kindof annoys me when my entire team on BFBC2 is playing recon and camping, leaving me to try to cap all the objectives.

 

[Twad]

The term camping can be put on anyone who defends/snipe/infiltrate a location for a long time, so its kinda pointless imho.

Just dont spawn camp.

 

[Vrach]

Well to me, there's two types of camping. One is in a game like Counter Strike, where you're sitting behind a box and waiting for people to pass so you can shotgun them down. The other is in games like BFBC2 where you grab a sniper and sit at a spot protecting an objective/choke point or providing sniper support. The first is a bit meh (although frankly, I'm not one to boo at gameplay styles), the second one is 100% legit imo as snipers are squishy and running around pretending you're holding an assault rifle is pretty fucking stupid.

The term camping can be put on anyone who defends/snipe/infiltrate a location for a long time, so its kinda pointless imho.

Just dont spawn camp.

^TLDR - This :>