Is it ever okay to camp?

[Chappy]

On the campers who sit and wait for someone to walk past instead of actively trying to play.

In some gametypes where you are a designated defender of an objective (Halo Invasion) and when you are outnumbered and alone camping is really your only options, but when you are playing a normal game where you are not outnumbered and your not defending anything I would question camping.

But really doesn't camping a corner say something about the player? They sit in a corner all game backs to a way doing nothing until someone runs past it shows something about their confidence in their abilities and skill.

Luckily game developers implemented grenades so if you see a camper grenade his hidey hole, thats my stance anyway.

 

[Lyx]

why can't people understand this...

there is no 'right' or 'wrong' when it comes to thinks like camping. if the game allows you to do something, then it is perfectly OK. even though most gamers condemn it and look down on campers, it does not mean its cheating. if a game was intended to allow camping, then camping is just as much of a 'legitimate strategy' as anything else.

in short, there is no such thing as 'OK' and 'not OK' in camping. because in the end you can't do shit about it.

False implication: That something is possible in a game, does not necessarily imply that the developers wanted it to be used that way. They may have overlooked that possibility, or perhaps they were just too lazy or unimaginative to fix it properly.

If a game is unbalanced in a certain way, then it is unbalanced in that way. Fact. If people then use that to their advantage, they support that flaw. As i said earlier, its true that if some aspect of the gamemechanics works badly, it shouldn't have been that way to begin with. However, if people then use that flaw to their advantage, they promote it (and i mean that literarily - the more a gamemechanics flaw is abused, the more others are pushed to abuse it too, to stay competitive). It takes two to tango, not one.

P.S.: With the above, i do not mean that camping generally is a flaw. But quite a few games have difficulty to balance it - which i find amusing, because what could be easier to control, than something totally predictable?

P.S.2: And yes, grenades/rockets are the most obvious answer. Surekill weapons that do not require line of sight, but take long to unleash, are the ideal weapon against this: Too slow against moving/unpredictable targets, but deadly if you know what the enemy is going to do.

 

[Nouw]

Yes it is, especially when you're defending.

 

[auronvi]

It's always ok to camp because there are always ways to defeat it. Especially the "I'm gonna stay here the whole game" camper.

I use tactical camping. I know where the other guys are going to be coming from so I set myself in a vantage point that will give me the best advantage against the incoming baddies. Then... I move. I love being called a camper because if they would actually pay attention, I just choose not to run around the corner guns blazing, I am a patient hunter.

 

[REAPER5594]

I don't have a problem with "campers". If you can find a well hidden spot where you can kill and make it hard for you to be killed, that's fine. I have problems with entire teams locking out part of the map. OR, use glitches to get to normaly inaccessable parts of the map. And spawn campers, that's just wrong. If you don't want to be killed by a camper, try and THINK OUT a way to counter him/her, and kill them. That simple. most of the maps are made so that you CAN camp and also KILL a camper. you just have to THINK. use flash grenades to blind the guy and shoot 'em. use your grenades and perks effectivly.

 

[dex-dex]

i don't see a need in games but in real life it is fun with friends not so much with family members and it makes you realize why your cousins don't live in the same city as you.

 

[Eldarion]

In Real Life? Yes.
In Games? No.
In MW2, Whenever I See A Camper, I Riot Shield Them To Death XD

Excellent strategy! I always find it fun to slowly move towards someone while holding the riot shield and laugh as they panic fire into the shield and hope they don't have Semtex!

I always kill riot shielders with a grenade. Works about 99% of the time.

 

[Treblaine]

Snipers.

By that I mean stay in one AREA shooting at another area for a long time. But just staying rooted in one corner never manoeuvring for a better shot or more cover: that is taking it too far.

Similar for Machine gunners and so on.

Of course a game won't work if everyone constantly camps and the minority who break ranks are those who get their ass shot off.

That's why you should avoid objective-less Team-deathmatch.

 

[-Samurai-]

In Real Life? Yes.
In Games? No.
In MW2, Whenever I See A Camper, I Riot Shield Them To Death XD

Excellent strategy! I always find it fun to slowly move towards someone while holding the riot shield and laugh as they panic fire into the shield and hope they don't have Semtex!

I always kill riot shielders with a grenade. Works about 99% of the time.

When people use a Semtex, I flip on blast shield and rush them. They usually die, I move on to the next guy. If they toss a frag, I throw it back.

I actually got a list kill in a similar way earlier. I shielded someone to death, and they dropped a martyrdom grenade. I picked it up and threw it at a guy that had his back turned to me. It bounced off the back of his head and exploded. It was hilarious.

 

[Eldarion]

In Real Life? Yes.
In Games? No.
In MW2, Whenever I See A Camper, I Riot Shield Them To Death XD

Excellent strategy! I always find it fun to slowly move towards someone while holding the riot shield and laugh as they panic fire into the shield and hope they don't have Semtex!

I always kill riot shielders with a grenade. Works about 99% of the time.

When people use a Semtex, I flip on blast shield and rush them. They usually die, I move on to the next guy. If they toss a frag, I throw it back.

I actually got a list kill in a similar way earlier. I shielded someone to death, and they dropped a martyrdom grenade. I picked it up and threw it at a guy that had his back turned to me. It bounced off the back of his head and exploded. It was hilarious.

I don't just throw it like a dummy, I usually cook it first. Or use the grenade launcher.

 

[-Samurai-]

When people use a Semtex, I flip on blast shield and rush them. They usually die, I move on to the next guy. If they toss a frag, I throw it back.

I actually got a list kill in a similar way earlier. I shielded someone to death, and they dropped a martyrdom grenade. I picked it up and threw it at a guy that had his back turned to me. It bounced off the back of his head and exploded. It was hilarious.

I don't just throw it like a dummy, I usually cook it first. Or use the grenade launcher.

You'd be surprised how many people panic when they see a shield and just start throwing stuff. It's pretty funny sometimes.

With blast shield on, you can take 1(sometimes 2) explosives and be ok. That's usually enough time for me to either get out of the way, smash them, or pull a pistol and shoot them.

I once managed to melee a grenade as it hit my shield, and it bounced right back to the guy that threw it. I didn't get the points, but it was still funny to see.

 

[GenericAmerican]

I don't mind campers, in fact I might do it a little myself; more like patrolling though, I move from one spot to another covering a certain area. Kills are kills, don't complain if you die when you come rushing into the room and I am waiting.

Sitting in one spot is an easy way to get killed, if your playing against someone who has an IQ equal to or above a monkey. Good thing there are not many people like that in Modernwarfare.

 

[Eldarion]

When people use a Semtex, I flip on blast shield and rush them. They usually die, I move on to the next guy. If they toss a frag, I throw it back.

I actually got a list kill in a similar way earlier. I shielded someone to death, and they dropped a martyrdom grenade. I picked it up and threw it at a guy that had his back turned to me. It bounced off the back of his head and exploded. It was hilarious.

I don't just throw it like a dummy, I usually cook it first. Or use the grenade launcher.

You'd be surprised how many people panic when they see a shield and just start throwing stuff. It's pretty funny sometimes.

With blast shield on, you can take 1(sometimes 2) explosives and be ok. That's usually enough time for me to either get out of the way, smash them, or pull a pistol and shoot them.

I once managed to melee a grenade as it hit my shield, and it bounced right back to the guy that threw it. I didn't get the points, but it was still funny to see.

I have a friend that loves the riot shield, so I know what counters it. Generally, I find a cooked frag thrown so it lands above their head or bounce it off a nearby wall so it lands just behind him works most of the time. I also learned how to time a sidestep/knife attack pretty well too.

But yhea, it is funny when they menage to make either of those backfire with perfect timing.

 

[WillyG ZA]

I camp once while being a sniper if I get found out without changing position. Then I go renegade.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

It really depends on the game.

If their many counters to camping outside of "Sniper's aim is $#%^" and the sniper has to get a headshot to kill me (and it is hard to get), then I am fine with it. Battlefield Bad Company 2 made hard to get a headshot with its adding of bullet gravity (aim for the head at long range and your going to hit the chest) and it is possible to blow away all the sniper's cover, leaving a sitting duck with a pistol.

On the other hand, the worse would allow sniper's to replenish clamors, make shooting anywhere in the body a kill, and let them carry around a shotdgun or duel machine pistols, but no game developer would be THAT dumb...

 

[Assassin Xaero]

For sniping, sometimes. Anyone who has said "camping is a legitimate strategy" is a camper. Another little fun fact, the majority of people who hate martyrdom are also campers because they don't understand the concept of killing someone then MOVING (well, at least the majority of the ones I've run into).

 

[Apocalypse Tank]

I camp all day everyday, and hate people who complain about campers.
I will attempt absolutely no excuse on my behavior, and can only say I get the upper hand at the expense of others. Isn't that what life is all about?

 

[ShakesZX]

For sniping, sometimes. Anyone who has said "camping is a legitimate strategy" is a camper. Another little fun fact, the majority of people who hate martyrdom are also campers because they don't understand the concept of killing someone then MOVING (well, at least the majority of the ones I've run into).

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not a good strategy. It is annoying and I always hunt down campers mercilessly, but it is a sound strategy. It is an acquired skill to camp correctly, just as it is an acquired skill to run and gun correctly. Also, what does sacrificing yourself for your beliefs have to do with killing and moving?

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Well, if you consider it to be a legitimate strategy, and if you can still enjoy the game while camping, then fine. I personally get bored, but that's just me. The only times I camp if I'm getting spawn-killed 10 times a minute. It's called going on the defensive.

 

[Gambinoxkid]

This might help you out or maybe it won't. the best time to camp is when you are doing bad in a game: for example lets say your 5-and-30 in a match, if your death's are that bad then its time to camp, just dont make it a habit to stay in the same spot.