Is it worth getting a PS4 if I already own an xbox one?

[DudeistBelieve]

sooo.... I see this is a thing:

http://411mania.com/games/ps4-bundle-revealed-for-batman-arkham-knight/

And I've gotten quite sick of the lack of Xbox One games, and I'm wondering if maybe it's worth dropping the money and having the other system. I know PS4 has more indy games, and I quite like that...

Does the PS4 have a virtual console like deal? Like can I download all PS/PS2/PS3 games on it? Any exclusives I'd like? Bloodborne seems interesting.

 

[Prime_Hunter_H01]

There is no previous generation support other than Playstation Now, so you would need the older consoles to play older games.

I have no idea what you like so I cant say anything on the exclusives. But I will say that it seems like PS4 will be like PS3 in that later on it will be a haven for alot of japanese games from companies like Atlus and NIS, in fact NIS said they are no longer going to develop for the PS3 and move up to PS4. So if you like your various obscure Japanese games then the PS4 will be your friend in the future. Other than that look at the exclusives list, its small for both but that's your best bet.

Also I think PS+ is a better value than Xbox live, because to me at lest the Games with Gold are old hits which fall into the realm of, "if you didn't buy them before now you probably have no interest anyway" where as PS+ free games are a nice mix of old hits, less known major titles, and indie games. Also I think PS+ is still cheaper than Xbox Live Gold.

 

[SoreWristed]

The ps4 has NO backwards compatibility. So you do not have access to any psone/2/p/vita/3 titles from a ps4. This is as dumb as it sounds.

If you're into indy games, you might want to check the psn store first to see if they are available on the ps4. I don't know off the top of my head, but I would guess a decent amount are cross platform. Most of the times, games released after the ps4's release date are available. I haven't found a single ps4 title that I would describe as a console seller, but I still had heaps of fun with the ones that are available.

I would put some very serious thought into this if I were you. In fact, if indy and older titles are your thing, I suggest buying a used ps3. That'll give you acces to anything from psone to psvita titles and most cross-platformers.

Also, be aware that Bloodborne is a spiritual successor to the Dark souls games (I'm being nice here, I just call it Dark Souls 3 when I know no fanboys can hear me) and if you didn't like those games, you might not like Bloodborne.

 

[SoreWristed]

Horrible internet connections are the number one cause to double posting.

 

[Fox12]

sooo.... I see this is a thing:

http://411mania.com/games/ps4-bundle-revealed-for-batman-arkham-knight/

And I've gotten quite sick of the lack of Xbox One games, and I'm wondering if maybe it's worth dropping the money and having the other system. I know PS4 has more indy games, and I quite like that...

Does the PS4 have a virtual console like deal? Like can I download all PS/PS2/PS3 games on it? Any exclusives I'd like? Bloodborne seems interesting.

The ps4 has no backwards compatibility, but neither did newer versions of the ps3, so that's nothing new. Plenty of classic games will be put up on the virtual shop. And yes, there is a large and vibrant virtual store that has new and old games.

Should you buy a PS4? If you have the money and you really want the exclusives then go for it. There isn't much out right now, though, so, honestly, I would wait for it to drop in price. The Last of Us is fantastic, and Bloodborne is looking to be great. That said, that's really all there is at the moment. Persona 5 and Witcher 3 are getting ready to hit hard during the holiday season, but those games are months away, and Witcher isn't exclusive. There will be great PS exclusives, but, speaking as a Sony fan, I think it'd be healthier to wait. You're not missing much by being patient.

(but seriously, bloodborne and TLoU are great)

 

[klaynexas3]

Well, the Indie games you could get on a PS4 you could get on a PC as well, and for just a bit more you could build a decent enough rig that could play any Indie title coupled with the fact that you could play a shit ton of other games as well, much more than you could on a PS4 or ever will be able to on a PS4.

Now that the obligatory PC Master Race pamphlet has been handed out, do you have any fucks to give about getting a PC? If the answer is no, have you liked Sony exclusives in the past? Right now, you're looking at Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, and a few other games I can't remember off the top of my head. Infamous was alright, the gameplay was my favorite of the games, but the story was just so boring and stock and just shits on the previous games' lore anyway, so fuck it honestly. Persona 5 is coming out, but if you have a PS3, then you can get it anyway, and that was the console it was originally coming to anyway, so I doubt the PS4 version will be any better besides maybe being prettier.

Also, no backwards compatibility, just PS Now which is okay I guess, but you really would be better off just having a PS3 and PS2.

This generation is less about exclusives and more about which console has more people on it and which console has the better multiplatform games. The PS4 got the lead thanks to Microsoft's blunder, so if you want a console to play with friends online, PS4 is the way to go I suppose, but then the PC card has to be pulled out on that one. If Bloodborne and those Indie's just look so enticing and you refuse to get a PC, go for it I suppose. It's your money, I'm not your mom, I can't tell you what to do with it. I'd just say that there are better deals especially because most of the good games you can play on a PS4 you can also play on an XBone or PC, and the PC you can play more on.

And this is all coming from a proud owner of a PS4.

Oh, second recommendation. Wii U. Fuck it, you were looking at dropping 400 on a PS4, why not through on a bit more and get a Wii U and New 3DS. Two consoles, one was a big library, and the DS library, and the other with fantastic first party support with fun party games to play. Really, you can play the AAA games already, might as well just get something that will play things you won't be able to play anywhere else.

 

[Lufia Erim]

The ps4 has NO backwards compatibility. So you do not have access to any psone/2/p/vita/3 titles from a ps4. This is as dumb as it sounds.

If you're into indy games, you might want to check the psn store first to see if they are available on the ps4. I don't know off the top of my head, but I would guess a decent amount are cross platform. Most of the times, games released after the ps4's release date are available. I haven't found a single ps4 title that I would describe as a console seller, but I still had heaps of fun with the ones that are available.

I would put some very serious thought into this if I were you. In fact, if indy and older titles are your thing, I suggest buying a used ps3. That'll give you acces to anything from psone to psvita titles and most cross-platformers.

Also, be aware that Bloodborne is a spiritual successor to the Dark souls games (I'm being nice here, I just call it Dark Souls 3 when I know no fanboys can hear me) and if you didn't like those games, you might not like Bloodborne.

How many consoles were backwards compatible? Why do people think this was the norm? Only 5 of the many consoles had backwards compatibility. They tried it , it cost too much , get over it.

OT: sell your xbone and join the ps4 master race . [small] am i joking? I'll never tell [/small]

 

[Tay Sway]

the exclusives list for either console isn't very large at this point, so waiting for a price drop and/or either list to grow is probably the best option, unless there's a game currently on ps4 you really, really want. i wouldn't recommend dropping that much money for a few games and a gaming console, unless money's a non-issue for you. otherwise, you're already getting access to the majority of new-gen titles other people will be playing.

besides, you have a pc for indie gaming, don't you?

if so, why not?

that was a rhetorical question; there is no good answer to it.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Just take a good look at the exclusives list and their release schedule and see if it's worth whatever it costs now. No, there's no backwards compatibility or any other way of playing older games, and online support isn't free anymore, if you're wondering. Honestly I'd wait for a massive price drop before getting the PS4 if you already own an Xbone.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Not really.

I mean, the PS4 and the Xbone are pretty much the same console hardware wise and there aren't many exclusives for either one. Clearly if you bought the xbone already then the exclusives for that were more interesting to you than the PS4 ones, and considering how few PS4 exclusives there are it seems rather silly to own both at this point in time. Maybe in a couple of years once both consoles have more fleshed out libraries and have dropped in price it'll be worth having both. At the moment you're not missing much.

Arkham Knight is also coming out on the xbone so it seems dumb to get a separate system just to play it when it'll work just as well on the system you already own, no matter how cool and shiny that console looks.

So yeah, no point in owning both consoles right now.

Personally I went the other route and bought a PS4 because the Xbox One has no exclusives that currently interest me, other than Sunset Overdrive. Maybe that will change in time.

 

[SoreWristed]

The ps4 has NO backwards compatibility. So you do not have access to any psone/2/p/vita/3 titles from a ps4. This is as dumb as it sounds.

How many consoles were backwards compatible? Why do people think this was the norm? Only 5 of the many consoles had backwards compatibility. They tried it , it cost too much , get over it.

the ps2 was backwards compatible, the ps3 was backwards compatible, it just really stung that the ps4 wasn't.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

The ps4 has NO backwards compatibility. So you do not have access to any psone/2/p/vita/3 titles from a ps4. This is as dumb as it sounds.

How many consoles were backwards compatible? Why do people think this was the norm? Only 5 of the many consoles had backwards compatibility. They tried it , it cost too much , get over it.

the ps2 was backwards compatible, the ps3 was backwards compatible, it just really stung that the ps4 wasn't.

1 version of the PS3 was backwards compatible. The 2 slim versions weren't. Well, they kind of were, but they were backward compatible with PS1 games but not PS2.

 

[Casual Shinji]

It say no, because both systems are basically the same with only a handful of exclussives differentiating them. You're just going to have to decide whether those exclussives are worth the 400 bucks.

(but seriously, bloodborne and TLoU are great)

Notice the various Berserk references sprinkled throughout Bloodborne? Miyazaki sure does love him some Miura.

 

[Fox12]

It say no, because both systems are basically the same with only a handful of exclussives differentiating them. You're just going to have to decide whether those exclussives are worth the 400 bucks.

(but seriously, bloodborne and TLoU are great)

Notice the various Berserk references sprinkled throughout Bloodborne? Miyazaki sure does love him some Miura.

Have you seen the cover of the guide book? He's not even trying to be subtle anymore : )

 

[Casual Shinji]

Notice the various Berserk references sprinkled throughout Bloodborne? Miyazaki sure does love him some Miura.

Have you seen the cover of the guide book? He's not even trying to be subtle anymore : )

Yeah, it's pretty much staring you in the face the moment you boot up the game. Then later you literally have an enemy type modeled after Mozgus walking around. It's crazy... Just make a fucking Berserk game already, Miyazaki, stop torturing us like this. It's the good kind of torture, but still...

 

[Sleepy Sol]

Yeah, it's pretty much staring you in the face the moment you boot up the game. Then later you literally have an enemy type modeled after Mozgus walking around. It's crazy... Just make a fucking Berserk game already, Miyazaki, stop torturing us like this. It's the good kind of torture, but still...

Yeah, one of the first things I noticed was the Mozgus-looking enemies. Wait until the later parts of the game. I don't think the game ever really lets up on giving the Berserk vibes, and there are a number of events or developments strewn across the game that really don't even seem subtle as references or inspirations. Especially since Bloodborne is even darker than its predecessors.

Even the whole beast thing itself reminds me of Guts and how going through so much violent fighting is continuing to slowly deteriorate his mind into what is little more than that of a violent beast.

OP: Nah. Unless you really, really want Bloodborne, I wouldn't get a PS4 right now.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Yeah, it's pretty much staring you in the face the moment you boot up the game. Then later you literally have an enemy type modeled after Mozgus walking around. It's crazy... Just make a fucking Berserk game already, Miyazaki, stop torturing us like this. It's the good kind of torture, but still...

Yeah, one of the first things I noticed was the Mozgus-looking enemies. Wait until the later parts of the game. I don't think the game ever really lets up on giving the Berserk vibes, and there are a number of events or developments strewn across the game that really don't even seem subtle as references or inspirations. Especially since Bloodborne is even darker than its predecessors.

Even the whole beast thing itself reminds me of Guts and how going through so much violent fighting is continuing to slowly deteriorate his mind into what is little more than that of a violent beast.

So I'm not crazy in noticing that your hand looks particularly claw-like when you perform a viceral attack?

 

[Sleepy Sol]

So I'm not crazy in noticing that your hand looks particularly claw-like when you perform a viceral attack?

I actually haven't really noticed that, but given that you're basically forcing your bare hand into an enemy's stomach/back to rip their guts out it wouldn't surprise me. I might give a closer look to my character's hand the next time I play.

Given Gascoigne's transformation into a beast, and with him being the second boss of the game, I'm pretty sure the game's already trying to tell you by that point that the Hunt isn't much of a beneficial process for most hunters, at least in terms of their continued sanity. Or at least it isn't this time around.

 

[SoreWristed]

The ps4 has NO backwards compatibility.

How many consoles were backwards compatible? Why do people think this was the norm?

the ps2 was backwards compatible, the ps3 was backwards compatible, it just really stung that the ps4 wasn't.

1 version of the PS3 was backwards compatible. The 2 slim versions weren't. Well, they kind of were, but they were backward compatible with PS1 games but not PS2.

I know, I went out of my way and over my credit to get a ps3 the day they announced future versions would not allow me to play my psone and 2 titles. It's a bit Sony's fault that it's a peeve for many gamers, they set the precedent and it will invariably disappoint if they remove features they have always had. I really would not mind paying a little extra to ensure I wouldn't have to switch consoles, my tv has only so many ports...

 

[Hairless Mammoth]

If you have an Xbone already, there is almost no reason to get a PS4 right now. It's possible Sony will either announce a price drop or a new version of a the PS4 (which means a price drop on the old version to get rid of excess stock) by the time more exclusives worth getting are released. The few exclusives it has aren't going anywhere.

Also, like mentioned before, the PS4 relies entirely on PS Now for any backwards compatibility. For Now to work, your internet connection must be good enough to handle game streaming without lagging (to the point it ruins the fun) and you have to be willing to only rent games or pay the subscription fee.

If you don't have a PS3, seek one out instead and look for some used (or new) titles you've been wanting to try. The PS3's PSN Store also has many PS1 titles for sale and a very limited selection of PS2 games. There's also plenty of original PSN titles that I believe haven't been ported to the PS4 yet, if they ever will be. Or, you could get a PS2 and look for games from its massive library at local shops and online. Then get a PS4 when it has a bigger selection (and a lower price).