Is marijuana really that bad?

[Snake Plissken]

There is nothing new to discuss here, someone please lock this thread.

Go back to New York.

What always tickled me was that Marijuana was originally banned shortly after Prohibition ended, most likely for the same reasons.

Myself: I have maintained a 'Just not around me' attitude towards it, as I don't care for the smell.

I feel like a fucking moron...

I didn't get that joke for at least a full minute.

 

[thepyrethatburns]

I don't know about you guys, but marijuana is one of those things that I think should be legal but that I wouldn't use myself. Legal issues aside (for now), it's far less dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes, and has proven medical benefits. In fact, nobody has ever died from a weed overdose, but I've seen a girl who had a fever smoke a small amount and the fever went away, and I have a cousin who uses it medicinally for pain management as prescribed by her doctor.

So why spend all that money trying to stop people from using it and putting people in jail for 25 years for possessing a tiny amount? Why not legalize, regulate and tax it and keep people out of jail and money in the hands of the government?

Short answer: No more so than Alcohol.
Long Answer: Pretty much the same with some discussion on how we could just adapt appropriate laws to include pot for any of the possible legal issues if it were legalized. (Driving while high = DUI as an example.)

 

[TheWwwizard]

Hey, the 'excessive amount' cliche, haven't heard that in a while.

Let me just finish this thread so we can all get on with our lives;

Post Railing Against 'Potheads' And Somehow Insinuating That Pot Will Turn America Into A Nation Of Communist Hippies.

Post Calmly And Rationally Explaining That Just Because Some Idiots Smoke Pot Does Not Mean All Pot Smokers Are Idiots.

Post Explaining Medical Benefits, Potential Tax Benefits, Comparitively Tiny Health Issues In Relation To Alcohol/Tobacco.

Post Complaining About 'The Dopers That Live In My Street'.

Forum Member who Believes That Pot is Bad Because It Is Illegal, and the Reason It Is Illegal Is That It's Bad.

Post Explaining That Pot Is Illegal Because Fat White Men Wanted Less Competition to Their Paper/Petrochemical Businesses.

Post Throwing Out The Widely Refuted And Completely Unsubstantiated 'Gateway Drug' Theory.

Long-ass Post Covering All Positive Statements Over The Last 10 Pages Because The Poster (Rightly) Didn't Want To Have To Read Through Pages and Pages of Bigotry, Prejudice and Misinformation.

Further Commie-Hippie-Liberal Incitement Posts.



There, now let's just get over it and move on with our lives.

I believe the thread can end with this no reason to prolong things after all =P

 

[Abengoshis]

I just hate how pretentious people are with it. I have the same argument against alcohol. I drink - but I don't take pictures of me in which I am clearly 'wasted' or holding a drink, just to upload to Facebook so everyone can see that I was drinking.

With weed, I know of so many people that will try and slip it into conversation just because they think it will make them seem cool. Also, once again the same with alcohol, I hate the whole idea that it is needed to have fun. That's just sad.

I don't have anything against anyone who smokes it - entirely up to them. But, and I know this is cliché, I have seen how excessive amount can change someone...and it isn't cool.

Agreed. I don't get how people "need" it to have fun with their friends. Even though I'd never even dream of using it, I do think it should be legal.

Hey, the 'excessive amount' cliche, haven't heard that in a while.

Let me just finish this thread so we can all get on with our lives;

Post Railing Against 'Potheads' And Somehow Insinuating That Pot Will Turn America Into A Nation Of Communist Hippies.

Post Calmly And Rationally Explaining That Just Because Some Idiots Smoke Pot Does Not Mean All Pot Smokers Are Idiots.

Post Explaining Medical Benefits, Potential Tax Benefits, Comparitively Tiny Health Issues In Relation To Alcohol/Tobacco.

Post Complaining About 'The Dopers That Live In My Street'.

Forum Member who Believes That Pot is Bad Because It Is Illegal, and the Reason It Is Illegal Is That It's Bad.

Post Explaining That Pot Is Illegal Because Fat White Men Wanted Less Competition to Their Paper/Petrochemical Businesses.

Post Throwing Out The Widely Refuted And Completely Unsubstantiated 'Gateway Drug' Theory.

Long-ass Post Covering All Positive Statements Over The Last 10 Pages Because The Poster (Rightly) Didn't Want To Have To Read Through Pages and Pages of Bigotry, Prejudice and Misinformation.

Further Commie-Hippie-Liberal Incitement Posts.



There, now let's just get over it and move on with our lives.

So you think there are no negative side effects whatsoever? Your post seems quite pro-weed, sorry if it wasn't meant to be.

 

[Pyode]

I swear to jah if this thread goes over ten pages I am never reading this forum again.

This argument has been DONE. A DOZEN TIMES. Go post in one of the other hundred 'is pot bad herpa derp' threads.

It's funny. You claim to be so sick of this subject and that you want this thread to die, but you keep bumping the thread and bringing more attention to it. Do you see the irony?

There is nothing against the rules about this thread so, if you don't like it, don't fucking post in it!

Anyway OT:

I posted in a similar thread several months ago and my point of view hasn't changed so I'll just go ahead and post what I said there.

Now, I don't do the stuff personally, but I know a LOT of people who do and I can tell you one thing. The classic Cheech and Chong stoner is a HUGE minority. The vast majority of pot smokers are just normal people. They work hard, they raise families, and are responsible individuals. All they do is come home after a hard days work, take care of anything that needs to be taken care of around the house (cooking dinner, cleaning up, helping kids with homework, etc.) and then after all that is done, they sit back and unwind with a beer and a joint. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it and the idea that the government should prevent people from being allowed to do that is absurd.

 

[sgwee]

http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

 

[DiMono]

I don't get how people "need" it to have fun with their friends. Even though I'd never even dream of using it, I do think it should be legal.

Who was that comedian who said when white people get high all they do is talk about other times they got high? Funny stuff.

I have a few friends who smoke pot sometimes, and if it affected them in any lasting ways I probably wouldn't still be friends with them. And if they smoked so much that their lives seemed to be dominated by it, I definitely wouldn't be friends with them because I actually have things to do. None of the people I know need it, but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy it on those times when they partake.

I'm honestly not sure whether I'm agreeing or disagreeing with you here.

 

[Wolfram23]

I swear to jah if this thread goes over ten pages I am never reading this forum again.

This argument has been DONE. A DOZEN TIMES. Go post in one of the other hundred 'is pot bad herpa derp' threads.

You need to calm the shit down. Not everyone who posts here (on the Escapist) will have joined in all the previous threads, you know. This could be a first time debate on the issue for many. Leave them to it and stop coming back to this thread, yeah?

 

[Stalk3rchief]

Less dangerous than cigarettes... are you retarded?
Sure, there may be less tar in it, but when those dolts smoke it they hold it in, causing more damage than any cigarette.
Plus I hate that ALL potheads think they're genius's for the stupid theories they come up wit when they're high.

 

[Gaz6231]

Hey, the 'excessive amount' cliche, haven't heard that in a while.

Let me just finish this thread so we can all get on with our lives;

Post Railing Against 'Potheads' And Somehow Insinuating That Pot Will Turn America Into A Nation Of Communist Hippies.

Post Calmly And Rationally Explaining That Just Because Some Idiots Smoke Pot Does Not Mean All Pot Smokers Are Idiots.

Post Explaining Medical Benefits, Potential Tax Benefits, Comparitively Tiny Health Issues In Relation To Alcohol/Tobacco.

Post Complaining About 'The Dopers That Live In My Street'.

Forum Member who Believes That Pot is Bad Because It Is Illegal, and the Reason It Is Illegal Is That It's Bad.

Post Explaining That Pot Is Illegal Because Fat White Men Wanted Less Competition to Their Paper/Petrochemical Businesses.

Post Throwing Out The Widely Refuted And Completely Unsubstantiated 'Gateway Drug' Theory.

Long-ass Post Covering All Positive Statements Over The Last 10 Pages Because The Poster (Rightly) Didn't Want To Have To Read Through Pages and Pages of Bigotry, Prejudice and Misinformation.

Further Commie-Hippie-Liberal Incitement Posts.



There, now let's just get over it and move on with our lives.

I believe the thread can end with this no reason to prolong things after all =P

BELIEVE IT.

 

[hawkeye52]

Hey, the 'excessive amount' cliche, haven't heard that in a while.

Let me just finish this thread so we can all get on with our lives;

Post Railing Against 'Potheads' And Somehow Insinuating That Pot Will Turn America Into A Nation Of Communist Hippies.

Post Calmly And Rationally Explaining That Just Because Some Idiots Smoke Pot Does Not Mean All Pot Smokers Are Idiots.

Post Explaining Medical Benefits, Potential Tax Benefits, Comparitively Tiny Health Issues In Relation To Alcohol/Tobacco.

Post Complaining About 'The Dopers That Live In My Street'.

Forum Member who Believes That Pot is Bad Because It Is Illegal, and the Reason It Is Illegal Is That It's Bad.

Post Explaining That Pot Is Illegal Because Fat White Men Wanted Less Competition to Their Paper/Petrochemical Businesses.

Post Throwing Out The Widely Refuted And Completely Unsubstantiated 'Gateway Drug' Theory.

Long-ass Post Covering All Positive Statements Over The Last 10 Pages Because The Poster (Rightly) Didn't Want To Have To Read Through Pages and Pages of Bigotry, Prejudice and Misinformation.

Further Commie-Hippie-Liberal Incitement Posts.



There, now let's just get over it and move on with our lives.

this post both represents my views and is full of win at the same time

 

[Daveman]

Marijuana might not kill you, but it sure turn a person into an intolerable wanker.

Speaking on behalf of intolerable wankers I'd like to point out that we were like that before the weed.

I have tried it. I don't see the fuss. It just made me a little giggly and sleepy. Frankly booze is WAY more of a laugh.

 

[Abengoshis]

I don't get how people "need" it to have fun with their friends. Even though I'd never even dream of using it, I do think it should be legal.

Who was that comedian who said when white people get high all they do is talk about other times they got high? Funny stuff.

I have a few friends who smoke pot sometimes, and if it affected them in any lasting ways I probably wouldn't still be friends with them. And if they smoked so much that their lives seemed to be dominated by it, I definitely wouldn't be friends with them because I actually have things to do. None of the people I know need it, but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy it on those times when they partake.

I'm honestly not sure whether I'm agreeing or disagreeing with you here.

Disagreeing/agreeing with what?. lol
I said how I don't "get" something and how I think it should still be made legal anyway. xD

I know at least 5 people who smoke pot regularly and I've noticed one of them having a progressively worse attention span in class. Whether that's the pot or something else, I don't know. All I know is I don't want to chance something I don't actually need to do anyway.

 

[Gaz6231]

I know at least 5 people who smoke pot regularly and I've noticed one of them having a progressively worse attention span in class. Whether that's the pot or something else, I don't know.

Welcome to puberty.

 

[Burwood123]

The problem is that although Marijuana isn't that bad, people with still take advantage if it were legalized... now I'm not sure how you might do that just yet but believe, some idiot will do something that will cross the line... always.

You cant base your entire argument for abusing something on "just go with me on this" the only reason it is banned and this is 100% fact, is because "it makes blacks think they are equal to whites. They will rape our white women, and they will make the devils music (Jazz)" http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/ And nowadays because of a lot of bullshit propoganda (They made monkeys OD on weed bacause they forced them to inhale nothing but PURE THC for 15 minutes straight with no oxygen then said well, obviously it's dangerous.) http://www.drugtext.org/sub/marmyt1.html here is a list of facts and here http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Marijuana_is_bad is a list of many a medical study showing beefits and possible side affects. It isnt a harmful drug, youu can abuse anything, food, drinks oxygen. Stop the stupid drug war that nixon started and stop the killing in mexico of drug cartels..

 

[Whichi]

So why spend all that money trying to stop people from using it and putting people in jail for 25 years for possessing a tiny amount? Why not legalize, regulate and tax it and keep people out of jail and money in the hands of the government?

Because all the court fees and fines over a tiny amount of weed is more profit than taxing and regulating it.

Another thing I'd like to point out, just because "it's natural" doesn't mean you have the God-given right to do with it as you please. Do you use posion ivy/oak as a skin care product? haven you ever eaten a Moonseed? how about Yew? because all that stuff is natural too... and posionous. not all of them are posionous as to be fatal, but a number of them are as posionous to be nauseating and cause other side effects.

 

[DiMono]

Less dangerous than cigarettes... are you retarded?
Sure, there may be less tar in it, but when those dolts smoke it they hold it in, causing more damage than any cigarette.

What about the less Carbon Monoxide, less Hydrogen Cyanide, less Arsenic, less Ammonia, less Formaldehyde and less Benzene, and less chemicals known to cause cancer? If it were just the tar, sure, maybe you'd have an argument there, but cigarettes have a lot more than just tar and tobacco in them.

 

[Mediteral]

The problem is that although Marijuana isn't that bad, people with still take advantage if it were legalized... now I'm not sure how you might do that just yet but believe, some idiot will do something that will cross the line... always.

If only we could fave comments. It's the sad sad truth. Whenever something dgood comes around, someone will ruin it for everyone who needs it.

 

[viranimus]

enough said.

 

[Abengoshis]

I know at least 5 people who smoke pot regularly and I've noticed one of them having a progressively worse attention span in class. Whether that's the pot or something else, I don't know.

Welcome to puberty.

I'm 17...
I'm talking about since I started secondary school with them (English school system) to now.