TestECull said:I gave rap a month. I listened to rap stations on the radio, my phone was full of it, that's all I watched on Youtube. It didn't impress me. I'm not going to get a change of heart listening to any more rap.AvitaDeva said:I am a fan of art i listen to all sorts of music (my favorite artist right now is Bjork whom is certainly not a rapper) but being a rap fan is the reason why i think your comment was childish at best and closed at best and close minded at worst. First you have deemed it viable to deny the genre the title of music based off a sample of music you have heard if i were to do that with 80's rock i would be likely to assume it was horrible music about drugs and parting and disrespecting women. But then i would be doing what you are doing and that is not what this thread is about if you read what the creator of the thread was saying. He wanted to judge the structure not the content. He was asking if rap was structurally music and he did not care about the content. Which is why I implore you to read what was said in the thread about the structure so we can all stop arguing about lyrics who gives a fuck if you don't like what a particular rapper is saying. I certainly can't say i agree with every thing every rappers says but i could say that about any artist of any genre.
If you read my post a little more clearly you would realize i was not telling you to change your opinion...it does not cause me to to shit mega brick when you do not agree. What ruffles my feathers is when some one comes into a debate from left field with a silly off topic comment. Who cares if you do not like rap that's not what this thread is about it is about if rap is structurally music. Which most of the people who posted believe...now if you would like to frame your argument through the filter of some newly acquired incite then have at it this thread would be all the better if you came and posted some thing more then a one-liner about something insignificant and openly trivial. Because if you want to discuss the sociology of the ghetto and why songs have "a living good I can afford to do outlandish things to my car" focus to them i am qualified to do so i just got my degree in sociology and thus this is a topic i am well versed in and you would need three to four years of study to debate me. But this is all trivial and the matter is "is rap structurally music".
I have better things to do than go clubbing. Seriously, what's the point? Get so drunk you can't stand up straight, screw anything with an accessible orifice, then wake up in the drunk tank with one's car in impound and seven STDs the next morning wondering why your head and your dick both hurt? Sorry but I'd rather just shoot myself than do that.oh and one other question when you go to the club do you not dance because rap music is on?
Besides half the clubs in my area blast Rock, and the other half techno/dance/electronica/whatever the hell it's called today.
A lot of people go clubbing and end up just fine but yes i have never been to a club which does not play electronica or rap so a rock club seems strange to me i would neve know how to dance to that...but that's besides the point...the point is if you read my previous statements i never asked you to change your mind and like rap...I simply asked that you frame your argument to fit the context of the author of this threads intentions. if you check this out it did not ask whether you like it simply asked is it music structurally. and if your gonna ignore the authors original intent at least give an argument besides i don't like songs about rims because that's a rather shallow argument. it's a perfect reason not to like rap i mean i don't like the content in every song but to deny it the status as music is another thing entirely. think about for a moment...is the fact that you don't like the content really enough to change it's status as a genre i mean i'm sure you don't like the content of other songs in other genres of music are they not music? your argument is a slippery slope...