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Or we could just be a big TV show for the aliens.
Good thing someone mentioned this.
"...How about... a taco... that craps ice cream."
 

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I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.
I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.
Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.
You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.
Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº
If you can not see why humans are incredible then you are indeed foolish.

We have crossed the boundaries of our species. Our knowledge allows us to fly like the birds, swim life the fish, and penetrate the dark void of space. If you find nothing amazing about the potential for greatness in the human mind, then you are nothing more than a pessimistic fool.
And that is why I hate humans. So conceded, so hell bent on always being right. -sigh- Our species will never learn. Hahaha.

I never said the potential wasn't there. We've succeeded in being the "top dog." I just merely said that as far as "humans as an experiment" goes, we failed in the category of "being human." BIG TIME! And all thats left for us is the end, which I look, eagerly, forward to. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just being "me." Deal with it.
 

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Helm of Demonica said:
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I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.
I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.
Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.
You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.
Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº
If you can not see why humans are incredible then you are indeed foolish.

We have crossed the boundaries of our species. Our knowledge allows us to fly like the birds, swim life the fish, and penetrate the dark void of space. If you find nothing amazing about the potential for greatness in the human mind, then you are nothing more than a pessimistic fool.
And that is why I hate humans. So conceded, so hell bent on always being right. -sigh- Our species will never learn. Hahaha.

I never said the potential wasn't there. We've succeeded in being the "top dog." I just merely said that as far as "humans as an experiment" goes, we failed in the category of "being human." BIG TIME! And all thats left for us is the end, which I look, eagerly, forward to. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just being "me." Deal with it.
Yes, we are foolish for fulfilling are dreams. We are foolish for gaining the knowledge needed to do so.

You find nothing incredible about humans, yet you criticize our species for being inhumane. The idea of humanity is an emotion that sprang forth from our highly developed minds. These ideas of emotion are something almost no other animal can experience.

If you hold the human mind with contempt, then how can you mock humans for ignoring the emotions that spawn from it?
 

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Oh shut up OP.

If it is an experiment, I'd say it's been a massive success.

We(humanity) have asserted our rightful dominance over the world. I'd call that a success.

Also: The world will not end in 2012.
And then we will burn al the rainforests, and melt all the glaciers. Once the glaciers have melted, there will be no more food, and just about everyone will die except a few people at the poles. Ten years of success is ten times better than one year of the same level of success. Considering we will destroy ourselves and everything else at this rate, I deem us a failure.
atleast, you know, you have hope to change that.
its people like you i don't like. all you do is critisize and complain. go change are future, do bring me down.
That's true, I should have added some positive things, some hope to what I said. As for changing the future, Yoda once said "always in motion is the future." You can only change the present, but that's just a technicality. Yes, to really change things now you need to kick some serious primal urges ass. You need to take a cold shower with just a few litres of water. You need to only use the computer to play a bit of a REALLY good game, or watch REALLY good anime. You need to avoid heating food when not necessary, try to buy food that doesn't require heating or cooling (or use plastic). You need to think everyday about what you can do to bring down your footprint to as low as you can go, and then become better and go even lower. You need to pressure the people you know to do the same, and pressure them to pressure the people they know to the same to the people they know. All as quickly as posssible. You need to pressure your government to invest in renewable power so that the little you use will not further agravate an already highly aggravated system. In the time before that, you need to buy solar panels and maybe even cycle you can generate power on and exercise at the same time (for TV, computer).

Yes their's a lot of things that can and must be done, and all I did was give up and get angry at the people who could be helping me with my goal, of making as little global warming as possible. When I learned that emissions are still RISING and how utterly clueless everyone was about the severity and late hour of global warming, and just kept walking along like there wasn't a catastrophe in motion, I just shrunk into a cocoon and typed anger. Sorry. In retrospect, I was pretty unreasonable to expect everyone to know as much as I do. It was a major failure on my part.
 

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I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.
I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.
Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.
You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.
Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº
If you can not see why humans are incredible then you are indeed foolish.

We have crossed the boundaries of our species. Our knowledge allows us to fly like the birds, swim life the fish, and penetrate the dark void of space. If you find nothing amazing about the potential for greatness in the human mind, then you are nothing more than a pessimistic fool.
And that is why I hate humans. So conceded, so hell bent on always being right. -sigh- Our species will never learn. Hahaha.

I never said the potential wasn't there. We've succeeded in being the "top dog." I just merely said that as far as "humans as an experiment" goes, we failed in the category of "being human." BIG TIME! And all thats left for us is the end, which I look, eagerly, forward to. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just being "me." Deal with it.
Yes, we are foolish for fulfilling are dreams. We are foolish for gaining the knowledge needed to do so.

You find nothing incredible about humans, yet you criticize our species for being inhumane. The idea of humanity is an emotion that sprang forth from our highly developed minds. These ideas of emotion are something almost no other animal can experience.

If you hold the human mind with contempt, then how can you mock humans for ignoring the emotions that spawn from it?
Because we, as a race, have lost touch with that side of ourselves. We are no longer human, but a slightly more evolved creature that has lost touch with it's human roots, these emotions you covet so much and many more basic needs. All we live for is to get our next pay check. When that comes, what next? The next one... then another... and another? Until what end? Until THE END. So keep insulting me if you must. I will forever hold a torch in my heart for the end of times and there is nothing you can do to blow it out.

You bore me now. I'm tired of bickering, cause I'll you want to hear is that you're right, just like every other conceded human scum such as yourself. So, you're right. Happy. I couldn't care less. May the end bring you the clarity your mind so rightly needs. Toodles, human!
 

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*Accident

*Accommodate

*Curious

*Religion

*Allah

*Create

*Opinion

Oh yeah. No failure here at all. (a bit uncalled for, but funny, no?)
 

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Helm of Demonica said:
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I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.
I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.
Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.
You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.
Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº
If you can not see why humans are incredible then you are indeed foolish.

We have crossed the boundaries of our species. Our knowledge allows us to fly like the birds, swim life the fish, and penetrate the dark void of space. If you find nothing amazing about the potential for greatness in the human mind, then you are nothing more than a pessimistic fool.
And that is why I hate humans. So conceded, so hell bent on always being right. -sigh- Our species will never learn. Hahaha.

I never said the potential wasn't there. We've succeeded in being the "top dog." I just merely said that as far as "humans as an experiment" goes, we failed in the category of "being human." BIG TIME! And all thats left for us is the end, which I look, eagerly, forward to. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just being "me." Deal with it.
Yes, we are foolish for fulfilling are dreams. We are foolish for gaining the knowledge needed to do so.

You find nothing incredible about humans, yet you criticize our species for being inhumane. The idea of humanity is an emotion that sprang forth from our highly developed minds. These ideas of emotion are something almost no other animal can experience.

If you hold the human mind with contempt, then how can you mock humans for ignoring the emotions that spawn from it?
Because we, as a race, have lost touch with that side of ourselves. We are no longer human, but a slightly more evolved creature that has lost touch with it's human roots, these emotions you covet so much and many more basic needs. All we live for is to get our next pay check. When that comes, what next? The next one... then another... and another? Until what end? Until THE END. So keep insulting me if you must. I will forever hold a torch in my heart for the end of times and there is nothing you can do to blow it out.

You bore me now. I'm tired of bickering, cause I'll you want to hear is that your right, just like any other conceded human scum such as yourself. So, you're right. Happy. I couldn't care less. May the end bring you the clarity your mind so rightly needs. Toodles, human!
So you say that humans have lost touch with our emotions, yet you would enjoy seeing the destruction of our entire species? Sounds like you are the one who has lost touch with your emotions.

You seem to be a person whom consider themselves to be superior to other humans. To the point at which you insult other humans and refer to us as scum. You have inflated your ego on the fumes of ignorance. You want to believe that humans are nothing more than a race of hollow people. Well look beyond your narrow view of the world and you will see why you are wrong.
 

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I think humanity has done well for itself , People are just getting mad because we will eventually kill ourselves . but no species lives forever .
 

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Hmm... I don't believe you spelled "religion" right once in your whole entire rant.

But to answer your question - no. We aren't a failed experiment because there's proof of the human race evolving through the years. And we can't be failed if we cause the pollution, because it requires vast amounts of knowledge to know how to create things like cars, factories, computers, etc. You don't see a cat trying to build a factory to globally market T-shirts, now do you?
 

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Agreed. We fucked up the world. But we haven't been around for millions of years it's been like 500,000 at the very most. I'm speaking intelligent humans not Life in general but if you're saying life then its like 680 billion years haha.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
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I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.
I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.
Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.
You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.
Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº

If you can not see why humans are incredible then you are indeed foolish.

We have crossed the boundaries of our species. Our knowledge allows us to fly like the birds, swim life the fish, and penetrate the dark void of space. If you find nothing amazing about the potential for greatness in the human mind, then you are nothing more than a pessimistic fool.
And that is why I hate humans. So conceded, so hell bent on always being right. -sigh- Our species will never learn. Hahaha.

I never said the potential wasn't there. We've succeeded in being the "top dog." I just merely said that as far as "humans as an experiment" goes, we failed in the category of "being human." BIG TIME! And all thats left for us is the end, which I look, eagerly, forward to. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just being "me." Deal with it.
Yes, we are foolish for fulfilling are dreams. We are foolish for gaining the knowledge needed to do so.

You find nothing incredible about humans, yet you criticize our species for being inhumane. The idea of humanity is an emotion that sprang forth from our highly developed minds. These ideas of emotion are something almost no other animal can experience.

If you hold the human mind with contempt, then how can you mock humans for ignoring the emotions that spawn from it?
Because we, as a race, have lost touch with that side of ourselves. We are no longer human, but a slightly more evolved creature that has lost touch with it's human roots, these emotions you covet so much and many more basic needs. All we live for is to get our next pay check. When that comes, what next? The next one... then another... and another? Until what end? Until THE END. So keep insulting me if you must. I will forever hold a torch in my heart for the end of times and there is nothing you can do to blow it out.

You bore me now. I'm tired of bickering, cause I'll you want to hear is that your right, just like any other conceded human scum such as yourself. So, you're right. Happy. I couldn't care less. May the end bring you the clarity your mind so rightly needs. Toodles, human!
So you say that humans have lost touch with our emotions, yet you would enjoy seeing the destruction of our entire species? Sounds like you are the one who has lost touch with your emotions.

You seem to be a person whom consider themselves to be superior to other humans. To the point at which you insult other humans and refer to us as scum. You have inflated your ego on the fumes of ignorance. You want to believe that humans are nothing more than a race of hollow people. Well look beyond your narrow view of the world and you will see why you are wrong.
Why must you keep pulling me back in? "My emotions are not controlled by the masses like yours are. I think freely, therefore I am free." "Yes and no, I think I'm better then other humans. I'm scum, but at least I have the dignity to admit it." "Yes, we are scum." "Ignorance is bliss... and can get you high, apparently. (A retort to your 'fumes of ignorance')" "Hollow, you wish! We are not even a shell. We're nothing." And "my view is just fine, thanks for your concern." Now, my real goodbye. Peace out! ºuº

FINAL NOTE: Do I think if humans never existed in the first place that the world would be a better place? Yes... Yes I do. I think I would be a monkey... cause they are cool animals. Ha!
 

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ShredHead said:
Lonan said:
Internet Kraken said:
Ginnipe said:
we're killing other animals just so we can live.
This one little bit confuses me.

Can you explain to me why this is a problem?
Killing above replacement.
ShredHead said:
All we've done has been pretty necessary to our own gain, maybe not collectively as a species but at least collectively within certain groups. Humanity is a whole lot of different people with different viewpoints in which way they want to better their own environment, so if these people's opinions clash then you are going to get some fuck-ups!

Of course, the OP's noting down of the most negative achievements of mankind gleefully neglects the things we have done to better our society and so obviously your going to paint a pretty grim picture. Besides, we are not causing global warming, we are just contributing to it.

Stem cell research is not designed to help people live longer, it is so people can replace defective cells that cause diseases like cancer and diabetes (I have diabetes so i feel particularly strongly about that one)

After reading your entire post, I get that this was a kind of rant about religion saying God made everything and so it should be more perfect but the fact that we've done so much good just as much takes away from your argument than the fact that we've done bad.
(I'm an Atheist by the way)
Natural cycles take WAY longer than the hundred years the world has started warming up in. Also, it'sreally very simple. Carbon dioxide SLIGHTLY increases the heat of the atmosphere which SLIGHTLY increases the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere which increases the worlds heat a bit. Consider that the sun is constantly shining on the earth, and a 40% increase in a greenhouse gas will cause a constant and accelerating warming effect. The amount of heat released sent back into space is first reduced by an increase in greenhouse gases. Then in moves onto the Arctic, where it reduces ice, (nature's best reflector, reflects 85% of heat back into space I think) with ocean water (nature's worst reflector, reflects 3% of heat, absorbes the rest)

Before I continue I would like to add that everything peaceful in nature is not calm, but the the colliding of collosal forces which cancel each other out, thus creating a balance. If one becomes more powerful then the other, life will gradually become more difficult for those on the one side. Think of it as a tug-of-war. Before humans started burning coal, the hot side (equater) and the cold side (poles) were equal. By releasing greenhouse gases you put more on the hot side, you add, say, one more person to the hot side, and both are, say teams of a hundred rugby players. Not a big deal. But the match doesn't end. Let's assume that both sides are simply holding and are leaning back onto the rope not exerting themselves. (because the hot and cold parts of the world don't get tired like humans do) The cold side now will barely notice the difference. However, unless the the carbon dioxide disappears, the world will increase it's temperature at a constant rate, aggravated by melting icecaps, release of more carbon sinks because of warming, release of more from ocean because warm water holds less carbon, and all sorts of fun stuff. I have to go now, I'll edit later and continue if you ask me too.

Sorry, i made one small point about Global Warming, and it was true, I'll admit that we are contributing very strongly towards it but it is a natural process.
There's nothing natural about increased greenhouse gases, unless you consider humans to just be clueless animals and thus "natural." You can say all you want about 42 000 year long cycles or whatever, but you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. You're trying to direct the attention of someone who has a crocidile behind them to a small wasp so that you don't have to help them, and can get away while they get eaten.

Sorry for the really aggresive assault on your character, but this just about that serious. They're saying the Artic could have an ice free summer as quickly as 2013. Think about how much warmer the cold currents traveling south will be when the best reflector of heat is replaced with the best absorber of heat.

Also, natural cycles are entirely irrlevant. They're going to happen anyway, so you might as well pretend they aren't their. Also, carbon dioxide is responsible for 99.99% of the warming. In addition, we would be in an ice age right now if it weren't for for Chinese terrace farmers growing rice, starting 10 000 years ago, so we've already stopped one natural cycle from taking place, so first of all I don't want to hear any more crap about natural cycles when we've already stopped a HUGE one, and second of all, "natural" cycles need to be taken with a grain of salt in a world that should be in an ice age. We've messed with most of the cycles on earth by preventing that ice age, so natural cycles since 10 000 years ago need to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. Also, we are naturally supposed to be in 30 year cooling cycle right now, the world is still warming up. That's a short term cycle that actually has relevance to the lives of those alive now, and the implications of a natural cooling cycle being offset by unnatural warming is staggering indeed. I don't care about long term cycles that take thousands of years, I really don't. I have a good website for, if you wouldn't mind viewing it and scrolling down some, the guy makes some good videos. www.bravenewclimate.com
 

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Helm of Demonica said:
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I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.
I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.
Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.
You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.
Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº

If you can not see why humans are incredible then you are indeed foolish.

We have crossed the boundaries of our species. Our knowledge allows us to fly like the birds, swim life the fish, and penetrate the dark void of space. If you find nothing amazing about the potential for greatness in the human mind, then you are nothing more than a pessimistic fool.
And that is why I hate humans. So conceded, so hell bent on always being right. -sigh- Our species will never learn. Hahaha.

I never said the potential wasn't there. We've succeeded in being the "top dog." I just merely said that as far as "humans as an experiment" goes, we failed in the category of "being human." BIG TIME! And all thats left for us is the end, which I look, eagerly, forward to. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just being "me." Deal with it.
Yes, we are foolish for fulfilling are dreams. We are foolish for gaining the knowledge needed to do so.

You find nothing incredible about humans, yet you criticize our species for being inhumane. The idea of humanity is an emotion that sprang forth from our highly developed minds. These ideas of emotion are something almost no other animal can experience.

If you hold the human mind with contempt, then how can you mock humans for ignoring the emotions that spawn from it?
Because we, as a race, have lost touch with that side of ourselves. We are no longer human, but a slightly more evolved creature that has lost touch with it's human roots, these emotions you covet so much and many more basic needs. All we live for is to get our next pay check. When that comes, what next? The next one... then another... and another? Until what end? Until THE END. So keep insulting me if you must. I will forever hold a torch in my heart for the end of times and there is nothing you can do to blow it out.

You bore me now. I'm tired of bickering, cause I'll you want to hear is that your right, just like any other conceded human scum such as yourself. So, you're right. Happy. I couldn't care less. May the end bring you the clarity your mind so rightly needs. Toodles, human!
So you say that humans have lost touch with our emotions, yet you would enjoy seeing the destruction of our entire species? Sounds like you are the one who has lost touch with your emotions.

You seem to be a person whom consider themselves to be superior to other humans. To the point at which you insult other humans and refer to us as scum. You have inflated your ego on the fumes of ignorance. You want to believe that humans are nothing more than a race of hollow people. Well look beyond your narrow view of the world and you will see why you are wrong.
Why must you keep pulling me back in? "My emotions are not controlled by the masses like yours are. I think freely, therefore I am free." "Yes and no, I think I'm better then other humans. I'm scum, but at least I have the dignity to admit it." "Yes, we are scum." "Ignorance is bliss... and can get you high." "Hollow, you wish! We are not even a shell. We're nothing." And "my view is just fine, thanks for your concern." Now, my real goodbye. Peace out! ºuº

FINAL NOTE: Do I think if humans never existed in the first place that the world would be a better place? Yes... Yes I do. I think I would be a monkey... cause they are cool animals. Ha!
Life must be so easy for you. You bathe yourself in the luxuries provided by the labor of the human mind, then criticize humans for working to create these inventions. You are the type of people that hold back the human species. You only condemn the human race, providing nothing for it. It is much easier to destroy than it is to create. I used to think like you. I thought that all humans were idiots that drank from the well of stupidity and basked in the glow of ignorance. I realized that this was a hollow existence, in which I was only using the faults of society to justify my own personal foibles.

If humans did not exist then another species would take our place. Another species would evolve and learn to fight with the stick rather than the claws. A dominant intellectual species will always exist. That species is currently the humans. We may have our faults, but nothing is perfect. I would attempt to eliminate these faults, rather than inflate them.
 

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Leorex said:
Lonan said:
Internet Kraken said:
Ginnipe said:
we're killing other animals just so we can live.
This one little bit confuses me.

Can you explain to me why this is a problem?
Killing above replacement.
ShredHead said:
All we've done has been pretty necessary to our own gain, maybe not collectively as a species but at least collectively within certain groups. Humanity is a whole lot of different people with different viewpoints in which way they want to better their own environment, so if these people's opinions clash then you are going to get some fuck-ups!

Of course, the OP's noting down of the most negative achievements of mankind gleefully neglects the things we have done to better our society and so obviously your going to paint a pretty grim picture. Besides, we are not causing global warming, we are just contributing to it.

Stem cell research is not designed to help people live longer, it is so people can replace defective cells that cause diseases like cancer and diabetes (I have diabetes so i feel particularly strongly about that one)

After reading your entire post, I get that this was a kind of rant about religion saying God made everything and so it should be more perfect but the fact that we've done so much good just as much takes away from your argument than the fact that we've done bad.
(I'm an Atheist by the way)
Natural cycles take WAY longer than the hundred years the world has started warming up in. Also, it'sreally very simple. Carbon dioxide SLIGHTLY increases the heat of the atmosphere which SLIGHTLY increases the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere which increases the worlds heat a bit. Consider that the sun is constantly shining on the earth, and a 40% increase in a greenhouse gas will cause a constant and accelerating warming effect. The amount of heat released sent back into space is first reduced by an increase in greenhouse gases. Then in moves onto the Arctic, where it reduces ice, (nature's best reflector, reflects 85% of heat back into space I think) with ocean water (nature's worst reflector, reflects 3% of heat, absorbes the rest)

Before I continue I would like to add that everything peaceful in nature is not calm, but the the colliding of collosal forces which cancel each other out, thus creating a balance. If one becomes more powerful then the other, life will gradually become more difficult for those on the one side. Think of it as a tug-of-war. Before humans started burning coal, the hot side (equater) and the cold side (poles) were equal. By releasing greenhouse gases you put more on the hot side, you add, say, one more person to the hot side, and both are, say teams of a hundred rugby players. Not a big deal. But the match doesn't end. Let's assume that both sides are simply holding and are leaning back onto the rope not exerting themselves. (because the hot and cold parts of the world don't get tired like humans do) The cold side now will barely notice the difference. However, unless the the carbon dioxide disappears, the world will increase it's temperature at a constant rate, aggravated by melting icecaps, release of more carbon sinks because of warming, release of more from ocean because warm water holds less carbon, and all sorts of fun stuff. I have to go now, I'll edit later and continue if you ask me too.
the north and south poles where not equal. ever hear of the ice age.
It's true that the world has generally been warmer or colder, and ice and no ice regions has had different extents in the past. What that does is change the composition of life on earth, and make it more habitable by warmer or cooler liking animals. The current state of the world supports the life alive now, the current balance between ice and no ice, warm and cold supports the life alive now, but greenhouse gases have the potential to completely eliminate the ice, for the first time in millions of years. It would not change the balance, it would burn the scale itself and cast the world into an era which in completely uninhabitable by humans, think dinosaurs and 2 metre long centipedes, and crocidiles in the Canadian High Arctic. It was just 10 degrees celcius warmer when dinosaurs walked the earth. At the rate we're going, it will be six degrees warmer by the end of century. We do NOT have the right to destroy the habitat of all the aboriginal people in the world, all the people below outside the polar regions, and utterly obliterate animals that have been here far longer than we have. It has been different in the past, but that has no relevancy to present.
 

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I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.
I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.
Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.
You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.
Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº

If you can not see why humans are incredible then you are indeed foolish.

We have crossed the boundaries of our species. Our knowledge allows us to fly like the birds, swim life the fish, and penetrate the dark void of space. If you find nothing amazing about the potential for greatness in the human mind, then you are nothing more than a pessimistic fool.
And that is why I hate humans. So conceded, so hell bent on always being right. -sigh- Our species will never learn. Hahaha.

I never said the potential wasn't there. We've succeeded in being the "top dog." I just merely said that as far as "humans as an experiment" goes, we failed in the category of "being human." BIG TIME! And all thats left for us is the end, which I look, eagerly, forward to. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just being "me." Deal with it.
Yes, we are foolish for fulfilling are dreams. We are foolish for gaining the knowledge needed to do so.

You find nothing incredible about humans, yet you criticize our species for being inhumane. The idea of humanity is an emotion that sprang forth from our highly developed minds. These ideas of emotion are something almost no other animal can experience.

If you hold the human mind with contempt, then how can you mock humans for ignoring the emotions that spawn from it?
Because we, as a race, have lost touch with that side of ourselves. We are no longer human, but a slightly more evolved creature that has lost touch with it's human roots, these emotions you covet so much and many more basic needs. All we live for is to get our next pay check. When that comes, what next? The next one... then another... and another? Until what end? Until THE END. So keep insulting me if you must. I will forever hold a torch in my heart for the end of times and there is nothing you can do to blow it out.

You bore me now. I'm tired of bickering, cause I'll you want to hear is that your right, just like any other conceded human scum such as yourself. So, you're right. Happy. I couldn't care less. May the end bring you the clarity your mind so rightly needs. Toodles, human!
So you say that humans have lost touch with our emotions, yet you would enjoy seeing the destruction of our entire species? Sounds like you are the one who has lost touch with your emotions.

You seem to be a person whom consider themselves to be superior to other humans. To the point at which you insult other humans and refer to us as scum. You have inflated your ego on the fumes of ignorance. You want to believe that humans are nothing more than a race of hollow people. Well look beyond your narrow view of the world and you will see why you are wrong.
Why must you keep pulling me back in? "My emotions are not controlled by the masses like yours are. I think freely, therefore I am free." "Yes and no, I think I'm better then other humans. I'm scum, but at least I have the dignity to admit it." "Yes, we are scum." "Ignorance is bliss... and can get you high." "Hollow, you wish! We are not even a shell. We're nothing." And "my view is just fine, thanks for your concern." Now, my real goodbye. Peace out! ºuº

FINAL NOTE: Do I think if humans never existed in the first place that the world would be a better place? Yes... Yes I do. I think I would be a monkey... cause they are cool animals. Ha!
Life must be so easy for you. You bathe yourself in the luxuries provided by the labor of the human mind, then criticize humans for working to create these inventions. You are the type of people that hold back the human species. You only condemn the human race, providing nothing for it. It is much easier to destroy than it is to create. I used to think like you. I thought that all humans were idiots that drank from the well of stupidity and basked in the glow of ignorance. I realized that this was a hollow existence, in which I was only using the faults of society to justify my own personal foibles.

If you humans did not exist then another species would take our place. Another species would evolve and learn to fight with the stick rather than the claws. A dominant intellectual species will always exist. That species is currently the humans. We may have our faults, but nothing is perfect. I would attempt to eliminate these faults, rather than inflate them.
"ET phone home." Remember, there will always be one species above our own, and I praise them for not coming in touch with our retched kind. These creatures are the true "overlords" of our puny planet. I worship their accomplishments and hope, one day, to call them, as a species, my own. As for now, I'm human, and I have accepted the fact that we, and I, are/am useless in the whole scheme of things. I shall only pray that my next life is of one of greater value then that of a human.
 

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"ET phone home." Remember, there will always be one species above our own, and I praise them for not coming in touch with our retched kind. These creatures are the true "overlords" of our puny planet. I worship their accomplishments and hope, one day, to call them, as a species, my own. As for now, I'm human, and I have accepted the fact that we, and I, are/am useless in the whole scheme of things. I shall only pray that my next life is of one of greater value then that of a human.
Tell me then, if you can, where did this almighty overlord species come from? Were they born from the stars themselves? Did they rise from the dust of space?

Or did they evolve on a distant planet in the far depths of space? Well, that seems like the logical answer, and they most likely evolve just like us. They rose from single prokaryotic cells into fantastic organisms. They built up a society from the ground and struggled in the same way as us. Do you think they achieved perfection instantly? No, if an alien race exsits then they have improved their society based on its previous faults. They had to endure hardships to get to the level of perfection you believe they have. It is the only logical way.

And humans are doing the same. We are building our society up from the ground. We are improving it based on the faults of the past. You can't just expect a species to obtain perfection from nothing. You have to work for it.

If an alien race is watching us, they are not interfering. This is not because they believe us to be wretched filth, but because they understand how a species most function. You can't just solve someones problems for them. They never learn if you do that. You have to let them fix these problems themselves. That is the only way to evolve.