Is there a game where the future dosen't suck ?

[lacktheknack]

Actually, yes. Yes it does. Because it doesn't suck does mean that it's right unless you can present specific evidence to the contrary. Can you?

It's just a game.

Waaaah, waaaaah! I can't defend my position, so I'm just going to discredit the topic!

Also known as the "I never liked this stupid game anyway" argument.

But no, I can't. I don't have enough evidence or even information to draw any major conclusions to the underworkings of the game world, because I only get one perspective for four hours.

So in other words, you have no evidence to support your claim? Thought so. Citing reasons why you lack the specific evidence you need to argue a point isn't a substitute for said evidence. Quite the contrary, actually.

Also, I think your logic is junk.

Considering that I'm using well-founded theory of logic [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof] I think you're going to need a bit more of an argument than the equivalent of, "And...and also your FACE is stupid!"

Two things:
1. Actually, it's my favorite game of all time.
2. You're looking waaaaaaaaaay too deeply into this. I don't feel the need to research and back up a passing claim I make within the realms of an OPINION THREAD.

What, do you just have a superiority complex?

 

[Baron von Blitztank]

Ummmm...Borderlands?
I mean yeah, Pandora is a shithole planet but it had always been that way! Humans just came in during the hibernation season.

 

[teh_Canape]

well, the Outrun 2019 version of the future is pretty positive, if you ask me

Mass Effect's future is also pretty neat, I mean, it shows a bigass society doing pretty fine, well, yeah, there's reapurz and herp-derp-collekterz, but it does pretty good overall

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

I blame our obsession with realism.

 

[Conza]

Most sci-fi (as in, space opera type sci fi) games tend to have a great future for MOST people. Its just you, the player, who are always screwed.

Star Wars, Mass Effect, even Dead Space; the impression is given that most people are happy. Its just you whose fuckd to hell and back.

Do you mean like, the happy empire? Just curious to know what you mean by adding Star Wars, I always saw it as quite gloomy, but maybe the empire is good-ish?

Star Trek, as people have said, any game I've ever played with that has had a good future universe (the Star Trek universe). And I think once the Reapers are all killed in Mass Effect, at the end of Mass Effect 3, that will be a pretty hunky-doorey universe too.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

Two things:
1. Actually, it's my favorite game of all time.

Okay. That's not terribly relevant, seeing as my "I never liked this stupid game anyway" allusion referred to the fallback that children use when they're being beaten in kickball, tag, whatever. You attempted to invalidate the subject by saying "It's just a game" in the same way that a child losing a game of teeball would try and minimize failure by calling the game stupid.

2. You're looking waaaaaaaaaay too deeply into this. I don't feel the need to research and back up a passing claim I make within the realms of an OPINION THREAD.

I've no problem with that. You openly admitted that you have no idea what you're talking about, save for an inexplicable belief that you're correct. But considering that presenting evidence is as simple as saying "There was a point in the game when _______ happened," I'm left with the reasonable assumption that you give no evidence because you have none.

What, do you just have a superiority complex?

lulz. Totally haven't heard that one before /eyeroll. Is it because I actually called you on a bullshit claim, or because I exposed it as thus so easily?

 

[KalosCast]

If there was nothing bad happening, there's no game.

 

[The irish dragon]

have u tryed final fantasty 13?

 

[lacktheknack]

Two things:
1. Actually, it's my favorite game of all time.

Okay. That's not terribly relevant, seeing as my "I never liked this stupid game anyway" allusion referred to the fallback that children use when they're being beaten in kickball, tag, whatever. You attempted to invalidate the subject by saying "It's just a game" in the same way that a child losing a game of teeball would try and minimize failure by calling the game stupid.

2. You're looking waaaaaaaaaay too deeply into this. I don't feel the need to research and back up a passing claim I make within the realms of an OPINION THREAD.

I've no problem with that. You openly admitted that you have no idea what you're talking about, save for an inexplicable belief that you're correct. But considering that presenting evidence is as simple as saying "There was a point in the game when _______ happened," I'm left with the reasonable assumption that you give no evidence because you have none.

What, do you just have a superiority complex?

lulz. Totally haven't heard that one before /eyeroll. Is it because I actually called you on a bullshit claim, or because I exposed it as thus so easily?

If you've heard it before, maybe there's a grain of truth to it.

Anyways, I've entirely forgotten what I originally said. Enjoy your victory, it looks like you need it.

 

[Caligulove]

You could argue that Mass Effect is a pretty decent place for the ordinary person- at least as likely as it is for life to be decent for someone playing that game. Bad and crazy shit happens, but not to very many people.

That and I've never played any Star Trek games, but I've heard from some Trekkie friends that the future, written by Gene Roddenbury is actually a pretty damn fine place- kind of a utopia, without any money or anything.

 

[Gormers1]

Ah...Dreamfall. Somewhat. For most people, at least.

I thought in the exact same way.

 

[Lord Kloo]

Warhammer 40k's not too bad.. if you're a battle-loving, fight seeking ork..

Otherwise I can't really think of any that are actually nice apart from maybe Star Wars if you live in the central areas of the Empire..

 

[TAGM]

Think about it for a second - If you played a game set in the future, and that future was lovely and bright, what the hell would you need to do? Clean up the city? Buy out all the stores?

I suppose it could work if you were the evil guy trying to fuck up the future, but wouldn't that be about the same in the end?

 

[Canid117]

I'd argue Mass Effect, impending apocalypse aside it seems like a decent place to live. It's not a utopia by any measure, but it's no worse than present day.

Bear in mind that a *large* amount of sci-fi is based around the dystopian idea of the future. Also, you're only seeing part of the world, perhaps the rest of it is a very nice place. Take Dead Space, for example. The necromorphs are nasty, yes, but they are very localized. In fact, the games seem to be pretty civilized places before the aliens come and kill everyone. It could be flowers and sunshine on all the civilized planets.

Still better than most futures. Almost all of that can even be avoided if you stick to certain colonies and planets.

I was looking for this: I would also say that the Mass Effect universe is a really good future to be a part of...you know; Reapers, Batarian Slavers, Pissed Krogans, general racism being taken to ridiculous new heights, asteroids being used as weapons from mass destruction (heh: pun), other raids on frontier worlds (by races including but not exclusive to Batarians) and, the one I would dread the most, the possibility of falling in love with a young Asari, mating with her, marrying her, living to 160-years old (as a human) and dying. Your Asari widow being a 20-something according to her species and more than likely going to remarry. I am a romantic like that...I would try not to think about my blue-wife eventually finding another lover.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

If you've heard it before, maybe there's a grain of truth to it.

Or it just means you're just as hilariously unqualified to make psychological evaluations over the internet as most others before you. Occam's Razor seems to agree with me.

Anyways, I've entirely forgotten what I originally said. Enjoy your victory, it looks like you need it.

Straightforward enough: I said the world of Mirror's Edge was pretty well off, with Faith and company serving only to screw things up. You said just because things seemed fine didn't mean they were "right," and had no evidence to support your vague claim that things were secretly horrible.

Remember now?

 

[lacktheknack]

If you've heard it before, maybe there's a grain of truth to it.

Or it just means you're just as hilariously unqualified to make psychological evaluations over the internet as most others before you. Occam's Razor seems to agree with me.

Anyways, I've entirely forgotten what I originally said. Enjoy your victory, it looks like you need it.

Straightforward enough: I said the world of Mirror's Edge was pretty well off, with Faith and company serving only to screw things up. You said just because things seemed fine didn't mean they were "right," and had no evidence to support your vague claim that things were secretly horrible.

Remember now?

Sure. There appears to be a misunderstanding, "not right" doesn't mean "secretly horrible".

 

[Cheesus333]

Impending genocide aside, I would definitely want to live in the Mass Effect future!

I mean, they have the basic human problems of prejudice and discrimination as well as all sorts of horrendous crimes unto one another, but the simple fact is that that would be common of all human futures. Because, as I'm sure I've said somehwere before, humans are dicks, and if we weren't we would not be human.

So when all of that's put to one side, what you're left with is a hyper-advanced galactic civilisation with a number of highly-efficient safety/security organisations in charge PLUS an agency of inter-species professional badasses who fix the shit that no-one else can. The fact that the games focus on all the bad stuff [footnote]And why wouldn't they? You are, after all, one of the aforementioned space cowboys responsible for cleaning it all up[/footnote] it does not mean that there isn't prosperity and peace going on simultaneously.

And if you live on the Citadel, you get all your stuff cleaned and maintained free-of-charge by weird little bug things! Bonus!

 

[Henrik Moeller]

eve online would be an awesome place to be (as long as you're in the right social groups of course)

 

[Char-Nobyl]

If you've heard it before, maybe there's a grain of truth to it.

Or it just means you're just as hilariously unqualified to make psychological evaluations over the internet as most others before you. Occam's Razor seems to agree with me.

Anyways, I've entirely forgotten what I originally said. Enjoy your victory, it looks like you need it.

Straightforward enough: I said the world of Mirror's Edge was pretty well off, with Faith and company serving only to screw things up. You said just because things seemed fine didn't mean they were "right," and had no evidence to support your vague claim that things were secretly horrible.

Remember now?

Sure. There appears to be a misunderstanding, "not right" doesn't mean "secretly horrible".

Okay...then what does it mean? If something "isn't right," that implies that it violates some sort of moral standard. Generally, that means some sort of "horrible secret" behind said society, especially if the things that would ordinarily make it "not right" aren't visible.

In other words, we can't see anything wrong with the Mirror's Edge society. How can you argue that there is?