Is there any REASON gay marriage is wrong?

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conflictofinterests

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Hatchet90 said:
It goes against God, science, nature, the works. I personally can't find a reason for it to be right.
What do you mean by nature? Gay dolphins, gay chimps, lesbian damn near everything...

And what do you mean by science? Biological science, which indicates sexual disposition is possibly coded for in genetics, and otherwise determined at such an early age as to be practically involuntary? Or pseudo-science which says anything anyone wants it to, ever.
 

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Kalezian said:
Sometimes........ I am ashamed of being an American, just because of the religious bigots who think we all need to live by their rules.
It's not that much different here dude. We have idiots too. Of course they're not given a grand stage like people at Fox News are. We just have a few of them rambling from within their own parties...and one party compiled entirely of them.
 

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Well, first of all Denmark has gone into absolute anarchy ever since it legalized gay marriage in 1989. This a short documentary on the chaos caused by gay marriage: The second issue is the 4 million dollars Canada has already spent trying to keep our streets safe and straight:
Legalising gay marriage would make gay prevention that much more difficult.
The most important reason why gay marriage should never have been legalised is the importance of tradition. If something has been happening for a long time, there must have been pretty good reasons for it. Legalising gay marriage is basically saying our elders are stupid and should stop receiving old age pensions.
 

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Johnnyallstar said:
I disagree with using the term "marriage" because the idea of "marriage" as it is has been the same for thousands of years, and now we have to change it because... why exactly? Because less than 10% of the worlds population demands a change of ideas? What's next? "Marriage" to a goat? "Marriage" to your left hand? Once you break the defined nature of the language, where does it end?

Why not civil union? Why not a whole new word? Why must it be "marriage?"

By the way, that's Elton John's opinion, as well as mine. I'm not against civil unions, but I am against using the term "marriage."
Thank you, now I don't have to type all of that out.

Marriage--the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law. Gays don't want to have a "marriage" so to speak (their partner is of the same-sex), they want to be....unionized?
 

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Sober Thal said:
If you don't think gay marriage is great, you get flamed.

No thanks, I'll pass on this one.

Oh wait, too late. Well, a reason many would think it's wrong.....

'Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version)
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.'

There ya go. Keep your flame to yourself please. I only quoted the good book.
Now once again, I'm religious as well, but seriously, can you stop just picking out the parts you want to hear and maybe use some common damn sense? Let's look at what else Leviticus has to say:

- "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)

Alright, slavery is not only legal again, but ethically acceptable, sounds good. Now I don't have to pay to have my grass cut and my hedges trimmed.


- "For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

Did we all follow this rule the human race would be extinct.


- "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)

Yup, being clean shaven is a sin. Guess I'm going to hell.


- "...do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear material woven of two kinds of material." (Leviticus 19:19)

Farmers have discovered over the centuries that planting multiple types of crops in the same field in different years severely boosts the fertility of the soil. But some random dude in an ancient book said it was bad, so they must stop or be destroyed.

Also, you're going to hell for that T-shirt your wearing. Even 100% cotton isn't 100% cotton these days.


- "But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)

Enjoy lobster? Crab? Clams? Oysters? You're going to hell.
 

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Sober Thal said:
If you don't think gay marriage is great, you get flamed.

No thanks, I'll pass on this one.

Oh wait, too late. Well, a reason many would think it's wrong.....

'Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version)
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.'

There ya go. Keep your flame to yourself please. I only quoted the good book.
Its your choice to live your life by a book written by the church, but that is no reason for everyone else to live by your rules.

Do you also follow all the other things the bible says are sins? Like shaving? Or women talking in church? You follow all of it or do you cherry pick the parts that support your bigotry?
 

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Hatchet90 said:
It goes against God, science, nature, the works. I personally can't find a reason for it to be right.
dont mean to flame...however

against nature?.....you know homosexuality has been around for a loooooong time right? its not it was "invented" in the 60's or somthing

against science? I didnt know homosexuals hated science

agasint god? I mean thats fine if its your religeon but really if somone else wants to be gay I think you coould suck it up and deal with it

oh and by the way In regards to "nature" man as being going against "nature" ever since he learned to make fire, everything we do, medicine technology,music art its all against "nature" I mean is it really "natural" for us to live as long as we do? nope but modern medicine makes it so
 

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I am for gay marriage but only one argument my christian friend made me think. And that question is: Will children be OK being raised by gays? One of those natural things you know.

I honestly don't have a clue, but the only reason it could go sour is because bully's will make fun of them for it or some stupid shit like that. As you can see, that's not the problem with gays getting married itself, just assholes creating problems and using fear to control.

I reckon down the road, it will just become normal over a decade, like when the seat belt first came in, that was rejected by everyone in the beginning.
 

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liquidangry said:
People don't seem to understand this concept. Marriage is a highly religious and ritualized ceremony. To a religious person, there is no such thing as a secular marriage even between a man and a woman. Trying to convince a Christian that they should accept gay marriage is like trying to convince them that they should convert to Islam.
Marriage wasn't invented by Christians. It wasn't invented by Jews either. I suggest you at the very least type "marriage" into wikipedia. And preferably google a bit further.
As an institution, marriage predates written history.
conflictofinterests said:
liquidangry said:
People don't seem to understand this concept. Marriage is a highly religious and ritualized ceremony. To a religious person, there is no such thing as a secular marriage even between a man and a woman. Trying to convince a Christian that they should accept gay marriage is like trying to convince them that they should convert to Islam.
Marriage has been more of an economic institution than a religious one. The church just wanted in on it because there was a lot of money to be had.
Ugh, I'm not arguing against gay marriage. All I'm saying is, try telling this to a christian or anyone else religious. My point still stands. Marriage IS a highly religious and ritualized ceremony, REGARDLESS of when the practice came about or for whatever reasons. Jesus,(lol) really pedantic people abound in here. I'm trying to explain their point of view and why trying to reason with them won't work.
 

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Lonan said:
...The most important reason why gay marriage should never have been legalised is the importance of tradition. If something has been happening for a long time, there must have been pretty good reasons for it. Legalising gay marriage is basically saying our elders are stupid and should stop receiving old age pensions.
>Slavery has been in our family for generations! My great-great-granddad was a slaver, and I want my son to be a slaver to! Clearly the heathens are too stupid and animal like to be compared to ourselves. Tradition.

Edit: I realized after posting I never hinted to my addition to your original mockery. As upon rereading what I wrote, it looks as though I'm responding to you.
 

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kidigus said:
(Before reading, please note that I AM in favor of gay marriage, in case you're very thick and don't get that right away)

You might hear people go on about how "Gay marriage is wrong", and "How it shoud be illegal" and so on. But I've yet to hear an objective reason for the case. They sometimes try to justify their position with "It would hurt regular marriage", but this is far fetched at best and a flat out lie at worst.

Fortunately these forums tend to be pretty open-minded on the matter, but if you happen to disagree with me, I'd very much like to hear a good, solid, factual reason to support your position.

EDIT: Lol, I finaly caught on to the error in the title X). I originally wanted it to say "would be" instead of "is" but forgot to delete the "be".
You know what if they wanna do that stuff i say let them do it....
 

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Sober Thal said:
Those are all 'reasons' for another thread.
The "reason" is that you pick and choose what parts of the bible to support your bigotry.

Your faith is a flimsy pretext to support your hatred, if that wasn't true you would follow the entire book.
 

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DevilWolf47 said:
Short answer: No.

Long answer: Think a minute: Have you ever heard a genuine counterpoint to the support? Don't you find it the least bit odd that the criticism for gay marriage almost universally comes from someone who is either bigoted against gays, ignorant to what the actual impacts are, or a politician who by unofficial definition will lie?
Sweet, lets all ignore the topic because of our own warped points of views and just hate on people that disagree with us.

Thread topic should have been,
Is there any reason gay marriage is RIGHT?

Because there isn't.
Rampant homosexualism is the end of society.

99% of you guys don't share reasons behind your biased points of views, so I won't share mine.

Actually I'm doing one better, I'm not calling you guys immoral sinners and 'bigots' yourselves for your love of relationships based around anal sexual relations.

Oh wait...
 

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Sober Thal said:
Dense_Electric said:
Sober Thal said:
If you don't think gay marriage is great, you get flamed.

No thanks, I'll pass on this one.

Oh wait, too late. Well, a reason many would think it's wrong.....

'Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version)
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.'

There ya go. Keep your flame to yourself please. I only quoted the good book.
Now once again, I'm religious as well, but seriously, can you stop just picking out the parts you want to hear and maybe use some common damn sense? Let's look at what else Leviticus has to say:

- "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)

Alright, slavery is not only legal again, but ethically acceptable, sounds good. Now I don't have to pay to have my grass cut and my hedges trimmed.


- "For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

Did we all follow this rule the human race would be extinct.


- "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)

Yup, being clean shaven is a sin. Guess I'm going to hell.


- "...do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear material woven of two kinds of material." (Leviticus 19:19)

Farmers have discovered over the centuries that planting multiple types of crops in the same field in different years severely boosts the fertility of the soil. But some random dude in an ancient book said it was bad, so they must stop or be destroyed.

Also, you're going to hell for that T-shirt your wearing. Even 100% cotton isn't 100% cotton these days.


- "But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)

Enjoy lobster? Crab? Clams? Oysters? You're going to hell.
You listed a lot of reasons for things other than gay marriage. Isn't this thread about gay marriage?
---> My point

---> Your head

I'm pointing out that you're selectively ignoring certain parts of the SAME BOOK written by the SAME GUY. If what he says about gay marriage is true, why are those other things not true?

I'll say it again, I'm religious too, but having faith doesn't mean ignoring common sense.