Is this a contradiction?

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AnarchyUK

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The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
AnarchyUK said:
AND besides what were the IRA fighting for? The northern Irish VOTED to stay within the UK union, to be honest the southern Irish can shut the fudge up for all I care, they were attacking people for no legitimate reason.
What would you do if your country was taken over by another, and only you and a few others weren't happy with it? I'm not defending their barbaric actions, but we have to remember, Ireland was as much their nation as it was anyone elses. And I'd also like to point out that they did believe that what they did would help their cause, and they weren't simply out to kill people.
I'm sorry but I can't agree to this, basically you are saying that the majority (southern Ireland) has the right to force their sovereignty over Northern Ireland, but the Northern Irish don't have the right to agree sovereignty with a vote?

Your replacing one oppressed people with another, splitting Ireland seems reasonably fair in my opinion.
 
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AnarchyUK said:
The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
AnarchyUK said:
AND besides what were the IRA fighting for? The northern Irish VOTED to stay within the UK union, to be honest the southern Irish can shut the fudge up for all I care, they were attacking people for no legitimate reason.
What would you do if your country was taken over by another, and only you and a few others weren't happy with it? I'm not defending their barbaric actions, but we have to remember, Ireland was as much their nation as it was anyone elses. And I'd also like to point out that they did believe that what they did would help their cause, and they weren't simply out to kill people.
I'm sorry but I can't agree to this, basically you are saying that the majority (southern Ireland) has the right to force their sovereignty over Northern Ireland, but the Northern Irish don't have the right to agree sovereignty with a vote?

Your replacing one oppressed people with another, splitting Ireland seems reasonably fair in my opinion.
No, I'm not. I'm saying that Northerners who wish to be part of the Republic are doing the fighting, not "Southerners". In fact, you'll find that most Southerners don't give two sh*ts about the North, and that any Nationalists in the Republic are from Donegal, a place that's tied to the hip of Derry and Tyrone, both geographically and economically, and would probably be in the North if it weren't for the large Catholic and Presbyterian communities there. You seem to think that everyone living in Northern Ireland are Unionists, which is completely wrong.

Edit; I'd like to point out, I don't support the Provisional IRA, I merely see where they're coming from.
 

kinapuffar

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Salad Is Murder said:
Yeah, but I
kinapuffar said:
Salad Is Murder said:
kinapuffar said:
Salad Is Murder said:
So should every person who makes a post in support of a religion be held accountable for the various crimes and horrible tragedies inflicted by that religion?
If they make posts supporting terrorism in the name of religion, yes.

Ireland =/= IRA
Religion =/= Religious extremists

Supporting the IRA is like supporting religious extremists.
Supporting religion is like supporting an independent Ireland.

There's a world of difference.
No, I'm pretty sure that supporting a religion means that you support, nay exalt, all of the terrible things that might be associated with it.

You want 'turn the other cheek'? You get 'crusades' too. Buy one get one free.
Nnnnnnnnnope!

But fine, we'll go with your logic. You support the continued existance of humans, right? Then you support every mass murderer and criminal that ever lived.
Stalin, Pol Pot, Lenin, Hilter, Djingis Khan, Kublai Khan, Al-Qaeda, and everyone else.

It's so easy to lump everyone together in guilt by association! Fantastic.
What if I do support all of those people, who are you to judge meh!
I AM KIRA! I AM JUSTICE!