Is this legitimate reasoning?

[walhallafive]

Jesus would have loved Queen. Jesus loves Freddy Mercury. I'm not sure of how Jesus would have felt about full body white jump suits.

Jesus taught inclusion, for some reason my Christian brothers are constantly preaching exclusion. Your friend is misguided, and yes, illogical.

I didn't watch Brokeback Mountain for the same reason I don't watch Rob Zombie movies, I don't want to give my money to support something that I see as an advancement of a detrimental lifestyle, and b/c I don't like watching guys be gay. But I still think Heath was a fantastic actor and Jake sure does try hard. But to hate Heath, Jake, Rob or Freddy would be against everyone of Jesus' teachings. I'm sorry your friend acts this way in front of you, please give us another chance.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

I've certianly seen worse reasoning, but no that it pretty poor, one should not hate their brother or sister, we are all humans, some are gay, some are white, some are French, it does not matter, in my opionion, becuase, we all have the blood that flows through our veins, we all bleed red.

 

[sgtjawa]

Your friend is basically an idiot - it's one thing to disapprove of an individual on moral grounds, and quite another to decide everything they do is therefore worthless, especially as he enjoyed the music before learning that detail about the vocalist.

Christians are called to be in the world, but not of the world - to live their lives as an example of what it means to exist in a state of grace. Too many forget that said grace is entirely unearned and undeserved, adopting a holier than thou attitude towards the secular world and dismissing the good along with the bad merely because of the source, for fear that anything less than condemnation will be seen as implicit approval of every aspect of the source of a work of [art, music, what have you].

Which is frankly a stupid thing for someone who believes that God created the heavens and the earth to do, considering the ultimate source then for all that is beautiful and worthwhile in the world, no matter the hands of mortal agencies involved, is still going to be that same God.

You may want to remind your bible-thumping acquaintance of the phrase "Hate the sin, love the sinner".

I agree.

I have tried to point out flaws in religion before, but I haven't had a smidgeon of success in that department.

 

[sgtjawa]

I'm sorry your friend acts this way in front of you, please give us another chance.

It's cool. I don't judge the group, only the individual.

 

[HontooNoNeko]

Its impossible to judge a persons personality based on one individual trait. Thus making it impossible for me to judge your friend based on the little information given me. I would assume his religion has enforced in him a belief that "being gay is bad" and disregarding years of being told that for such a trivial decision would be difficult so I do suppose he does actually have a reason to think as such.

 

[spinFX]

Maybe he should hate Christianity because of all the pedophile/closet gay priests.

Snap him with that, he may just cry.

 

[sgtjawa]

Its impossible to judge a persons personality based on one individual trait. Thus making it impossible for me to judge your friend based on the little information given me. I would assume his religion has enforced in him a belief that "being gay is bad" and disregarding years of being told that for such a trivial decision would be difficult so I do suppose he does actually have a reason to think as such.

Yes, but as it stands, this is still not a good reason to hate something, just as Khitten has said:

All you have to ask yourself is: Does his love of cock in any way change his music? If no then it has nothing to do with his art so shaddup!
If on the other hand you found out that one of your favourite bands or artists were actually neo nazis and on closer inspection of the actual lyrics or symbolism of their paintings found that it promoted hatred and genocide then sure. But I personally have never heard a queen song where he professes or even subtly hints at how much he loves getting shafted in the pooper.
One of my friends said how he now hates Barney off How I Met Your Mother because he found out that Neil Patrick Harris is actually gay. I had to point out that the show is fictional, all the characters and events are fictional, so how does the real world, i.e the sexuality of a real world person, effect a friggin fictional character at all!

 

[sgtjawa]

Maybe he should hate Christianity because of all the pedophile/closet gay priests.

Snap him with that, he may just cry.

I thought that was Catholics.

 

[Soxafloppin]

How long did it take him to discover that he was gay?

I mean really?

Its pretty obvious, Still a great band.

Ask him did his hears simple reject the sound after he found out Freddie was gay.

 

[spinFX]

Maybe he should hate Christianity because of all the pedophile/closet gay priests.

Snap him with that, he may just cry.

I thought that was Catholics.

It's everyone, Catholics are just more famous for it. Especially the child molestation.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

No, but semantics and pedantic behaviors are fantastic reasons to change your opinion!

 

[Samurai Goomba]

I am Christian. I do not think homosexuality is morally right. There are a lot of things I do not think are morally right. I can still be entertained by the works of people who I do not agree with.

Queen is a great group and I think it's extremely shallow to only want to like things where everyone associated with them thinks like you do.

 

[Rhokk]

Yes, it is ridiculous for your friend to completely change his preferences based on something that is not at all related to music. Doing drugs is bad, but I don't think that makes me dislike The Beatles' music at all. If I found out that Bono was gay, it wouldn't suddenly make me hate his music.

I think you're lumping all Christians together, which is slightly unfair. Yes, there are those radical people who immediately cut off all contact with anything they find impure, but there's a fair lot of us that just love all people.

I know God and Jesus love Freddy Mercury. Sure, they may not have approved about what he did in his life, but hey, there's still time for him to learn the truth up in heaven.

Oh, and I don't think it's really fair to lump homosexuality with race. You can't choose to not be black. (excluding Michael Jackson, of course)

Yes, homosexuality is something you're born with, but you never have to act on it. I know this might be blasphemy to some of you, but in my mind it's no different than being born with a disposition to become an alcoholic. Sure, you COULD end up really bad off, but you never have to take that first drink. It's just another trial we're given on this earth.

Oh, and don't say that I don't know anything about homosexuality. My dad just got out of prison a couple of months ago. He was convicted for hiring hit men to murder my mom, because he decided he wanted to be gay. I kind of have a little bit of experience in the matter.

Anyway,

tl;dr, no it is not reasonable for your friend to act that way. Learning he's gay in no way changed anything about the music he once enjoyed. He's just generalizing that everything gay = bad.

 

[DarkDain]

funny, i was just looking at the article about gamestop being sued and everyone seems to hate gamestop and think they are so bad, basically because of what some employees have done (even if they were accidents, its assumed it was intentional malicious evil, must be job requirement?) So they do the same thing, hate the company because of what an employee does, is it really so different?

 

[Marine Mike]

A question I have is how did your friend NOT know that he was gay?


I'm not saying that I agree with his reasoning, but it is legitimate reasoning. His reasoning is just a product of being homophobic and years of being conditioned by society/religion/family to have this kind of reaction.

 

[HontooNoNeko]

Its impossible to judge a persons personality based on one individual trait. Thus making it impossible for me to judge your friend based on the little information given me. I would assume his religion has enforced in him a belief that "being gay is bad" and disregarding years of being told that for such a trivial decision would be difficult so I do suppose he does actually have a reason to think as such.

Yes, but as it stands, this is still not a good reason to hate something, just as Khitten has said:

All you have to ask yourself is: Does his love of cock in any way change his music? If no then it has nothing to do with his art so shaddup!
If on the other hand you found out that one of your favourite bands or artists were actually neo nazis and on closer inspection of the actual lyrics or symbolism of their paintings found that it promoted hatred and genocide then sure. But I personally have never heard a queen song where he professes or even subtly hints at how much he loves getting shafted in the pooper.
One of my friends said how he now hates Barney off How I Met Your Mother because he found out that Neil Patrick Harris is actually gay. I had to point out that the show is fictional, all the characters and events are fictional, so how does the real world, i.e the sexuality of a real world person, effect a friggin fictional character at all!

Ah yes it seems I failed to mention that indeed I did think it was a illogical decision on his part seemed to have left that out. I in no way disagree with what he or you are saying I simply forgot to add the above. Sorry for the confusion!

 

[sgtjawa]

I think you're lumping all Christians together, which is slightly unfair. Yes, there are those radical people who immediately cut off all contact with anything they find impure, but there's a fair lot of us that just love all people.

I'm sorry if I seem I am, but believe me when I say that I'm attempting not to. I was simply stating his beliefs.

funny, i was just looking at the article about gamestop being sued and everyone seems to hate gamestop and think they are so bad, basically because of what some employees have done. So they do the same thing, hate the company because of what an employee does, is it really so different?

Are you saying that being gay is an employee of Queen? What?

 

[DarkDain]

I think you're lumping all Christians together, which is slightly unfair. Yes, there are those radical people who immediately cut off all contact with anything they find impure, but there's a fair lot of us that just love all people.

I'm sorry if I seem I am, but believe me when I say that I'm attempting not to. I was simply stating his beliefs.

funny, i was just looking at the article about gamestop being sued and everyone seems to hate gamestop and think they are so bad, basically because of what some employees have done. So they do the same thing, hate the company because of what an employee does, is it really so different?

Are you saying that being gay is an employee of Queen? What?

Er something like that. Hating a company because of some employees/hating a band because of some a musician.

 

[Altorin]

I thought Freddie Mercury was bisexual. "Fat-Bottomed Girls" came from somewhere, after all.

But no, that's some of the worst reasoning I've ever heard.

thanks, now I need to listen to that song for hours on end