Is this stealing adobe photoshop? Moral conundrum

[Infinatex]

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My counterargument to what? It being a illegal? It is... What more do you need.

To my statement regarding excusing crime? If you need to hear why making excuses for stealing is stupid, I cannot help you.

But if you do not have money for it, and you just buy it later like Aylaine said, is it that bad?

Anyway, why doesn't your uni give you a free copy? That's odd.

and how about just using paint.net :3? It's not THAT bad, I use it to make actually quite nice art stuff for video games.

The issue would be that by using another program, Hero in a Half Shell (hehe) would never learn the tools required. These are industry standards and that is why they are required.

Yes. I need a LOT more than "it's illegal", but the condescension and ad hominem attacks are appreciated, especially when I'm trying to stimulate some form of intelligent discussion. If being illegal is moral grounds not to do something, we would have gotten nowhere, we as a society would never have escaped the religious hellhole of days past.

All I asked was some form of structured argument, you've given me fuck all in your first and last post, we don't need unsupported opinions in a forum, it has no value besides from "this guy thinks that".

Whether I agree with you? irrelevant, maybe I do, maybe I don't, how can I know? You've presented nothing.

No need to get all hostile. It is illegal plain and simple. Are we entitled to make up our own minds? Yes. If you're cool with pirated software, fine. Not everyone is.

I'm certain it isn't but hey, if I'm wrong I'll save £230, I was also wondering what the difference was in the student and teacher edition of Creative Suite 5, mainly is there some sort of restrictions on it or time limit.

Get the Student version if you can. In terms of actual content, here is absolutely NO difference between the Student and Teacher edition and the commercial version. The difference is in the licence. If you want to know the in's and out's of all this stuff (content, uses etc) PM me.

 

[DiMono]

No, it's not legal.

And your University may have a deal where they can get you the relevant software for less money, so you may want to look into that.

 

[BoredRolePlayer]

It's more the licence usage than anything else I think unless I used a different version. I believe you cannot use student professionally though. (I have never been asked about the legitimacy of my programs, but been asked hundreds of times by clients where to get them illegally)

It is absolutely illegal but understandable. If and when you work professionally though you NEED a licence.

I have a student copy and you can use it professionally (I paid for mine with a 80% discount and it still cost me 550 USD)

 

[Sinclair Solutions]

I think that unless you are getting it from the site, it's stealing. There aren't any other sites that distribute it legally that I know of, so just get it off the site. It may cost a lot, but I wouldn't want to take the risk.

 

[lacktheknack]

unless we count the occasional mp3 witch i dont since i almost never listen to music and i dont own a ipod i have pirated 3 things in my gaming existance mass effect witch I ended up paying for
modderen warfare 2 witch i bought for the xbox 360 nd spore becauseit was the cool thing to do.

Pirate Kitty's head can stay where it is, my dear kettle.

 

[AceAngel]

Adobe and Autodesk are all aware of student piracy, and can't do much about it since they know noting good will come out it (no student can afford this programs). Infact, they don't even care.

However, the real problems comes when a company uses them for Commercial work, and nothing is paid to the tool developers.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

It's called Product Familiarity and it's very important to application software developers and publishers.

Which is why you will never see the level of DRM on apps as you do on games. Even multi-thousand dollar programs like Maya and 3dsmax are ridiculously easy to pirate. The publishers might ***** and moan in the media about how piracy is 'killing teh industriez' but secretly, they're reaping the benefits of the product being 'the norm'.

Most publishers of expensive applications keep quiet about the whole issue. Private, non-commercial copies of their programs don't affect their target market - businesses. In fact, several make the process of switching from pirated to legitimate versions of their software amazingly easy (if expensive) - you pay them for a full license and you're off and running.

 

[Wintermoot]

I would say go for it! you NEED this and if the photoshop guys wanted you to buy it they should have made it cheeper, you could also ask if the school could pay for it

 

[Hellz_Barz]

SNIP

I made the thief mad ^_^

The real hypocrisy here is you being on a video game form calling yourself a fan of games, when you admit to stealing them.

I don't usually like to but into arguments but have you really never sharewared a song, torrented a movie or intalled a burnt game your entire life? either your a millionaire or Jesus. what about your avatar? did your draw and animate that gif youself? the creator of k-on might consider it theft.

 

[blankedboy]

Get it from your uni.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

There are student editions, though from what I have seen they arent very good, I also think its unfair that if a buisness bought multiple copies under a buisness license they get a significant discount.

A good alternative to Photoshop is Paint.net, I use both (I got Photoshop free with my graphics tablet, so its not stealing). Paint.net can do things Photoshop cant and vice versa.

 

[Swifteye]

Hi everyone, I've been visiting the escapist for quite a while but never posted anything... ...until now.

The problem is that I need to get Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign for my university course and that will cost a fortune, However, I know a guy (you can probably see where this is going)who has all these, and he could give me them for free by copying his onto my laptop and then changing the product key code thing (or something like that).

So my first question is, is this legal.

I'm certain it isn't but hey, if I'm wrong I'll save £230, I was also wondering what the difference was in the student and teacher edition of Creative Suite 5, mainly is there some sort of restrictions on it or time limit.

I can't condone anything remotely sounding like an illiegal activity however there are free alternatives to it like paint shop or gimp and probably some others that I just can't think up.